First-person melee combat at its best

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LookingGlass

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I'm after your thoughts of games with the best first-person melee combat systems... using swords, knives, shields, fists, boots, spears, axes, bits of pipe, chunks of wood, etc. It always makes for a good time.


A couple that come to mind for me:

1. Dark Messiah of Might and Magic. Just finished this for the first time and I really, really liked the combat system.

You can block whilst holding melee weapons two-handed, or you can hold a shield in one hand. There are no explicit counters but if you do a decent block the enemy gets knocked back momentarily.

As for attacking you've got your fast attacks and strong attacks (if you hold down the mouse button) and if you wind up striking at the same time as the enemy you get into a battle of strength as you both try to overpower each other (and the loser can end up dropping his sword). And if all else fails, you've got the trusty boot.

On top of that there are a lot of traps and elements in environment you can use to your advantage, e.g. kicking your enemy into some spikes on the wall.

It also has an adrenaline system that allows you to perform insta-kill "fatalities" when you've done enough damage to charge up your adrenaline meter.

It's always tense and it's brutal at times as you thrust your sword right through an enemy's heart or take off a limb or their head.

2. The Condemned games.

All about using anything you can find around you as a weapon... pipes, 2x4s, mannequin legs, etc.

If I remember correctly, you have to try to time you blocks just right to get counters. If you were good you could get through almost any encounter without taking damage, but it kept you on your toes and the weapons sounded great.



Which games have your favourite first-person melee combat systems? What made them great?
 

Danceofmasks

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As much as I love Dark Messiah, I have to say ... barrels are OP.
The charge attack can also be glitchy, often refusing to function for no apparent reason. One of the reason my favourite build revolves around archery/strength/heal/sanctuary.

Of course, having strength and spellcasting grants access to some powerful swords and staves, so I can melee just fine. Just charge .. I hate that glitchy shit so much.
 

Shoggoth2588

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I don't remember the title but there was a pretty cool first person brawler on the Xbox years ago...The cover art featured a glowing fist and I remember owning it for a while. I think it was breakdown or something. Never played DM but I've tried the first Condemned.
 

SomeLameStuff

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Zeno Clash is pretty good. Only got to play a bit of it though, remind me to buy it on Steam when it goes on sale.
 

Zhukov

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I don't think I've ever seen first person melee combat done well.

Condemned was too simple. Just block to stun your enemy then attack. Rinse and repeat for the whole game. I ended up using guns most of the time anyway.
I don't remember much about Dark Messiah, but I do remember using the kick more than anything else. All the other mechanics seemed like a waste of time when I could just rag-doll the orcs off the nearest cliff.

As for some other games...

Mirror's Edge could be fun at times. I loved doing the jump-slam attack. But it was still too simple. All enemies go down in a single counter if you can time it right.
The Riddick games were lacking as well. You could win almost every fight by just moving forward and mashing attack.
My favourite would be Zeno Clash. The fisticuffs was great fun. Sadly the weapons all sucked and it had an absolutely fucking awful target-lock system.
 

Danceofmasks

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For the benefit of people who want to see what some of this stuff is like, I'm going to post a couple of my videos.
Other people should post more videos too. 'cos first person melee pwnage is awesome.

Videos contain spoilers. Not that the plot of these games are worth all that much.

Dark Messiah

Zeno Clash
 

VsFighter

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I would like to add Dead Island to that mix, the sense of immersion is pretty good. The hit physics are really well done for first person melee also. I hope skyrim has the same sense of weight behind the attacks like in DI.
 

Zeema

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i haven't played it but Dead Island does really well. Plus the Elder scrolls games are awesome for melee