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There's a lot of first person SHOOTERS glutting the gaming shelves these days, isn't there anything new?

Why not branch out of shooters, and explore making other genres in first person perspective?

Already, there's the Elder Scroll games & Penumbra, RPG & adventure/horror respectively. Why not make a first person dating sim? Or a first person pro football?

The FP view has a lot of potential besides being a HUD for shooters. Why not use it to read NPC's emotions & body language? Expand on that, and you can relate to a certain NPC more than a Final Fantasy player can relate to Cloud & Aerith.
 

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I'd reckon it would be well fun to play some sport games, like pro football or perhaps tennis in first person. Change the perspective a little bit...
 

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portal did something like that, being a first person puzzle game, and i agree the first person perspective has nearly unlimited potential. how abouta round based fighting game, like say, soul calibur in the first person?
 

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Bling Cat said:
portal did something like that, being a first person puzzle game, and i agree the first person perspective has nearly unlimited potential. how abouta round based fighting game, like say, soul calibur in the first person?
There has been a couple of first person modes in fighting games. I think one of the Tekken games had a fp mode (Tekken 2 maybe?)and Bushido Blade, the "one-hit kill" samurai fighting game on the psone definately had one. I remember it sometimes got a bit disorientating, but it was fun and something different.
 

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Red Shadow said:
There has been a couple of first person modes in fighting games. I think one of the Tekken games had a fp mode (Tekken 2 maybe?)and Bushido Blade, the "one-hit kill" samurai fighting game on the psone definately had one. I remember it sometimes got a bit disorientating, but it was fun and something different.
Bushido Blade was an awesome franchise, but the FP never felt right to me. I'm not a big fan of dating sims, but a detective game would be fun, or maybe a realistic spy game. Perhaps where getting information by talking to other characters and avoiding the authorities and counter-spies is your main objective. I liked the Thief series before deadly shadows, perhaps a heist game that doesn't suck *cough, kane and lynch, *cough.
 

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I think Red SHadow hit on it by saying it's disorienting. I don't think the reaction (i.e. rotation) times are fast enough for sports. It's fine for shooters; shooting someone in the back is a valid way of beating them. In a football sim, not being able to see anyone in your own team outside of a 45 dehgree FOV in front would really scupper it, and the to rotate at a realsitic speed that mimics huamn behaviour would be fairly disorienting.

Also, we can't get away from the fact that FPS games are popular, and of late, have actually been rather good (Bioshock, COD4, Halo 3, Orange Box...).

Portal may lead a charge for FP puzzlers, but it's a niche I think. It's taken Valve a long time to nail FP puzzling, and they've tried it a while. I think most people can tell you that the msot annoying deaths in Half-Life were falling down lift shafts whilst trying to land an enormous jump: a challenge when you have no visible feet.

What's the FP parkour game in dev at the minute?

EDIT: Mirror's Edge, developed by DiCE and EA. Free running, open worlded, FP-something. Probably will involve a gun or two.
 

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the NKL 2k's had FP-football..it was weird. worth trying out...it sounds cool (like you're on the field).
 

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I don't know. I have nothing against the First person view but to be honest, I prefer to actually see the character I'm using. I truly like it when games give you the option to switch from FP to 3rd Person (oblivion, jedi knight, etc.). There are only a handfull of FP games I like (and I absolutly love those), but again I prefer to SEE my character's animations and gestures.
 

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Bling Cat said:
soul calibur in the first person?
I believe that the Wii is supposed to be making that. Unless it's going for the just behind the person thing.
 

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For parts, Fight Night Round 3 had some First Person Boxing.

Also, what about Condmned... it's more like FPB First Person Bludgeoning
 

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FATAL FRAME.


As for FPSports games, that would be horrible. Imagine playing Grid Iron without being able to see anywhere but right in front of you. I know that real life football palyers need to endure this, buti n real life we have an awareness of our surroundings. Unless the game had some sort of Halo-esque motion sensor, the game would be practically unplayable.
 

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Red Shadow said:
Bling Cat said:
portal did something like that, being a first person puzzle game, and i agree the first person perspective has nearly unlimited potential. how abouta round based fighting game, like say, soul calibur in the first person?
There has been a couple of first person modes in fighting games. I think one of the Tekken games had a fp mode (Tekken 2 maybe?)and Bushido Blade, the "one-hit kill" samurai fighting game on the psone definately had one. I remember it sometimes got a bit disorientating, but it was fun and something different.
twas tekken 2, and it was bloody hard...
 

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A First Person stealth game would be good. I like the idea of not knowing if someone is behind you while you look in a computer/Briefcase/Chest/Wheelie Bin. I would like that sort of Challenge. But it would be nice to have a sense of the room, slight sounds are detected or something.

First Person Fighters sound a bit dissoriating.
 

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Hoax said:
A first person dating sim? Man, I know I would buy that game.
Well what would you like to have in your ideal first person dating sim?

I'm thinking of an open world, at least a city or a beach, where you can meet and choose out of various gals or guys, and you make attempts to woo him/her. After that, you try to keep a stable relationship with your virtual beloved. Meanwhile, there are timed events where you have to meet your beloved on a specific time, date & place, otherwise consequences happen if you're late.

Oh, but the bigger advantages are twofold if done in FP:
One, it's real time. No more still scenes. You actually interact with the world around you, along with NPCs and all.

Second, the acting itself. When in FP, you read your beloved's action, body language, face. These characters have emotion, personality, lives of their own. You actually do feel & care for these virtual characters more intimately than Cloud ever would with Tifa or Aerith in FF7.