First thoughts upon hearing "Japan".

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violinist1129

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Okulossos said:
I did not make that up, it is an official statement though an estimated one. I am sure if you look well enough, you might just find it...
You are entirely right. That is a really prevalent statistic. Since it is so controversial, it's being quoted everywhere! That or it's utter bullshit, to borrow a phrase.

Cite your sources ;)
 

WouldYouKindly

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Anime and general weird shit. If Florida has the weirdest news stories in the U.S., then Japan is the Florida of the world. Also sushi. I love sushi.
 

Okulossos

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violinist1129 said:
You are entirely right. That is a really prevalent statistic. Since it is so controversial, it's being quoted everywhere! That or it's utter bullshit, to borrow a phrase.

Cite your sources ;)
Why did you delete all that stuff? :)

My "security clearance"? Well, you I never talked about a "security clearance" for one :D. If you are registered at a university that provides access to sources such as Springer, then you have clearance anyway, it has got nothing to do with "security clearance".
You really do not know much about such things, do you, Mr. Peter Johnson of the Princeton University? :D
 

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so what you are syaing is that you are biased against Animation because its Animation, and for whatever reason you really cannot stand drawn charachters as opoased ot live action?why didn't you say that in the first place?
I like animated movies, just not those bad "Anime"s.

yes...answering is all you are doing, youre not arguing at all
You wanted to have answers, please don't complain ;).

HAVE YOU NO CONCEPT OF WHAT SUBJECTIVITY MEANS? go look at reveiws..rotten tomatoes..metacritic ANYTHING to give you an Idea
yea, 'cause metacritic so such a good site :D

what?....what is this?..no seriously what the fuck is this thing you just said?...this is preshcool level debate tactics....what would I need to say to make it clear I dont think groping is ok? it was clear
Exactly, for you it is just "not ok", even though it would have to be much worse than just "not ok".

hey! want me to do it as well?...well judging from your posts I think you may be a rabbit...and I'm not sure I trust a rabbits veiw on Anime...
If someone has a different opinion he is a... rabbit in you eyes? :D

ha

ha
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HAAAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA

fuck it....you broke me I'm done

but I will say if you are unable to debate your point (which you clearly are) then I can say you are WRONG!!!!!!

good day
So does that mean I am right, because you lack further arguments? See, I told you! :)
 

Dr. Crawver

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I think of the rampart sexism and infantising of females in their media. Then I think of Byran.
 

Nazulu

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First, anime. Then, Nintendo. They're are/were some of my favourite things to come out of there.
 

The Last Parade

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game-lover said:
I wanna go! Again. To the country. And I guess the food and the anime and the pretty language.
YES Japanese makes so much more sense than English... this language is so... inbred if that makes sense

OT Tokyo, Anime, some rock bands I like, Amazing food, manga and then the awesome trains
 

FireAza

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I think of the cities, with their bright lights and buildings. I don't know why, but there's something about the buildings in Japan that i really like.
 

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First things that popped into my head as soon as I read the thread title...

Cherry Blossoms, Big Flashy Cities and Shinto Shrines.
 

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The Last Parade said:
game-lover said:
I wanna go! Again. To the country. And I guess the food and the anime and the pretty language.
YES Japanese makes so much more sense than English... this language is so... inbred if that makes sense
I hope you mean "Japanese is so inbred", because that would make more sense.
English is the most descriptive language on the planet, ffs, we have 30+ synonyms for every word. Does japanese even have a term for "synonym". No.

Plus, the way they sort prepositions is just weird.
"The store, go I, desu."
It's like Yoda wrote the language.

It's simpler, but that is all.
 

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A very colorful and elaborate culture. That's my first thought. My second thought involves girls in sailor school uniforms. Wielding samurai swords and drinking tea. Which isn't much different from my first thought actually, now that I think about it.
 

The Last Parade

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GTwander said:
The Last Parade said:
game-lover said:
I wanna go! Again. To the country. And I guess the food and the anime and the pretty language.
YES Japanese makes so much more sense than English... this language is so... inbred if that makes sense
I hope you mean "Japanese is so inbred", because that would make more sense.
English is the most descriptive language on the planet, ffs, we have 30+ synonyms for every word. Does japanese even have a term for "synonym". No.

Plus, the way they sort prepositions is just weird.
"The store, go I, desu."
It's like Yoda wrote the language.

It's simpler, but that is all.
Except English, even to the basic level of the alphabet is retarded.

- 2 letters for the k sound, except one of them can also be an S sound
- Q is essentially kw combined
- no letters for the ch or sh sound
- every vowel can be pronounced at least two but usually three different ways

you don't see that shit in Japanese because the alphabet is based on syllables

Sentence structure doesn't mean shit when it's the way you learn it, sure it might not make sense when you say it in English but the Japanese have learned it in a different way which will make sense to them.

also, the Japanese term for synonym is Dōgigo

English is a needlessly overly complex language that could really use a restructuring, at LEAST in the alphabet
 

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otakon17 said:
UberNoodle said:
Dude, that was a joy to read. I wish to go to Japan one day myself so hearing something like that makes me think it's still quite doable.
It was a pleasure to write. Japan is totally doable. If your country has a working holiday agreement with Japan, travel there with some savings and try to find work, or apply for jobs in your own country and go over with a sponsored work visa. Once you are there for a full first visa, it is apparently possible to self-sponsor, particularly if self employed. Just don't fall for dreams of being every girl's ideal man. It's a myth, or your picking up a lot of bar girls. But finding a relationship is as easy as anywhere, perhaps easier if you are a 'genki gaijin'. But marrying a Japanese is hard freaking work and there's a tonne of cultural and family hurdles to jump, ie who's gonna take care of 'mum' where's that gonna be, and whether a foreigner has proper earning potential to support a typical and expected 'house wife and kids' family. And so on. Anyway, go for it.
 

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GTwander said:
The Last Parade said:
game-lover said:
I wanna go! Again. To the country. And I guess the food and the anime and the pretty language.
YES Japanese makes so much more sense than English... this language is so... inbred if that makes sense
I hope you mean "Japanese is so inbred", because that would make more sense.
English is the most descriptive language on the planet, ffs, we have 30+ synonyms for every word. Does japanese even have a term for "synonym". No.

Plus, the way they sort prepositions is just weird.
"The store, go I, desu."
It's like Yoda wrote the language.

It's simpler, but that is all.
Actually it would be "I store-to go."

Also, the particles, or prepositions as you called them, are very logical and inspired, if you ask me, as somebody who speaks Japanese every day. There are some neat innovations in Japanese, for example:

* meaning is highly contextual, ie a sentence can be a single word and yet be perfectly understandable and correct;

* particles serve as much better markers than English prepositions and thus sentence structure is highly variable and modular as long as the verb (if necessary) is at the end (but no always);

* formal tense conjugation is also very modular and easy to apply;

* compound verbs such as 'do+give' and 'do+receive', or 'hold+come' and 'hold+go' are very efficient at portraying new meaning (do for you, do for me, bring it here, take it there);

* topics and grammatical subjects of sentences each have their own particle marker. This is vital because many sentences omit the grammatical subject, which is a general 'no no' in English. What it means is, the topic of discussion can be made clear, even if the subject of the verb is something else. It seems counter intuitive for English speakers, but it is key to unlocking the strengths of Japanese.

HOWEVER, I will say that Japanese does lack in variety, especially for cursing. However, the language is keen to create new words for even the slightest trend or one hit wonder comedian with a funny phrase. Many of my friends say that English is an easier language to express personal opinion in. I buy that, but tend to speak Japanese with the lack of tact and directness I speak English.

And English has so many words because English speakers have conquered, been conquers, colonised, been colonised and otherwise have absorbed so many other cultures. Japanese has plenty of synonyms but it is also much more precise about their application. New words and nuances are added every day as the culture continues to absorb new things.

Anyway, I suspect none of that likely interested you. Oh well ...
 

The Last Parade

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UberNoodle said:
GTwander said:
The Last Parade said:
game-lover said:
I wanna go! Again. To the country. And I guess the food and the anime and the pretty language.
YES Japanese makes so much more sense than English... this language is so... inbred if that makes sense
I hope you mean "Japanese is so inbred", because that would make more sense.
English is the most descriptive language on the planet, ffs, we have 30+ synonyms for every word. Does japanese even have a term for "synonym". No.

Plus, the way they sort prepositions is just weird.
"The store, go I, desu."
It's like Yoda wrote the language.

It's simpler, but that is all.
Actually it would be "I store-to go."

Also, the particles, or prepositions as you called them, are very logical and inspired, if you ask me, as somebody who speaks Japanese every day. There are some neat innovations in Japanese, for example:

* meaning is highly contextual, ie a sentence can be a single word and yet be perfectly understandable and correct;

* particles serve as much better markers than English prepositions and thus sentence structure is highly variable and modular as long as the verb (if necessary) is at the end (but no always);

* formal tense conjugation is also very modular and easy to apply;

* compound verbs such as 'do+give' and 'do+receive', or 'hold+come' and 'hold+go' are very efficient at portraying new meaning (do for you, do for me, bring it here, take it there);

* topics and grammatical subjects of sentences each have their own particle marker. This is vital because many sentences omit the grammatical subject, which is a general 'no no' in English. What it means is, the topic of discussion can be made clear, even if the subject of the verb is something else. It seems counter intuitive for English speakers, but it is key to unlocking the strengths of Japanese.

HOWEVER, I will say that Japanese does lack in variety, especially for cursing. However, the language is keen to create new words for even the slightest trend or one hit wonder comedian with a funny phrase. Many of my friends say that English is an easier language to express personal opinion in. I buy that, but tend to speak Japanese with the lack of tact and directness I speak English.

And English has so many words because English speakers have conquered, been conquers, colonised, been colonised and otherwise have absorbed so many other cultures. Japanese has plenty of synonyms but it is also much more precise about their application. New words and nuances are added every day as the culture continues to absorb new things.

Anyway, I suspect none of that likely interested you. Oh well ...
Actually I was remarkably interested in that =p
 

FireAza

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The Last Parade said:
GTwander said:
The Last Parade said:
game-lover said:
I wanna go! Again. To the country. And I guess the food and the anime and the pretty language.
YES Japanese makes so much more sense than English... this language is so... inbred if that makes sense
I hope you mean "Japanese is so inbred", because that would make more sense.
English is the most descriptive language on the planet, ffs, we have 30+ synonyms for every word. Does japanese even have a term for "synonym". No.

Plus, the way they sort prepositions is just weird.
"The store, go I, desu."
It's like Yoda wrote the language.

It's simpler, but that is all.
Except English, even to the basic level of the alphabet is retarded.

- 2 letters for the k sound, except one of them can also be an S sound
- Q is essentially kw combined
- no letters for the ch or sh sound
- every vowel can be pronounced at least two but usually three different ways

you don't see that shit in Japanese because the alphabet is based on syllables

Sentence structure doesn't mean shit when it's the way you learn it, sure it might not make sense when you say it in English but the Japanese have learned it in a different way which will make sense to them.

also, the Japanese term for synonym is Dōgigo

English is a needlessly overly complex language that could really use a restructuring, at LEAST in the alphabet
As someone who's been learning Japanese recently, I can agree with you on how "clean" Japanese is. It makes it so much easier for me when I can sound out some writing and I'll be able to work out what words they are suppose to be, since each kana always makes the same sound. To be honest, I'd nearly rather they had a seperate set of kana instead of re-using old ones and adding ten ten to them. I know it's logical, but I'm always having to double think.

There was something interesting I read, when it comes to single syllable sounds, Japanese has 110 of them total. English? Over 8000. That can be an advantage though, since we're able to use this massive pool of sounds to make accurately approximate the correct sound in Japanese, vs what a Japanese speaker can do with theirs in English.
 

UberNoodle

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@Last Parade: Horray! I wasn't talking to myself ;)

@Fireazza: pronunciation of pure vowels is great for a learner of a new language. English has some hard ones. I have to teach people sounds that they have never made ever in their lives but which to us is easy.