Flatmate Troubles

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Krustosaurus

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This is my first time living away from home and it's in a foreign country. Everything was fine at first but one of my flatmates had to move back home so now there's only two of us. Two weeks ago my flatmate said "My girlfriend's coming round to stay tomorrow, is that OK?". When I asked how long for she dodged the question but I eventually managed to get "About a week" out of her. So two weeks later she's still here. I asked how long she would be staying since she said 'about a week' and it's been two weeks. She replied with "Is it a problem?". I said I would just like to know and she told me 'It's as and when really'. So... For all I know it could be months.

It was no problem having her around at first but about two or three days after she started staying here the police came to our door. Turns out they'd had an argument in the street and someone called the police on them. My flatmate also had a black eye which she said she got from falling. Eventually the police left and they apologised to me. A couple of days later I see my flatmate hiding something in our old flatmate's wardrobe. She sees me and just goes to her room without a word. I look inside and it turns out she's hiding her phone, which is a bit concerning. I ask her to take the rubbish out with me as an excuse to talk to her but her girlfriend follows. They spend most of the time in her room, only leaving to make food, go to the bathroom or go out.

Nothing of that nature has happened since then and everything seems fine. However, they don't tidy up after themselves, which is really starting to get to me. Every surface in the kitchen is covered in cheese and crumbs and they've dropped teabags on the floor and haven't bothered cleaning it up so it's just covered in tea stains. My flatmate has barely contributed anything to the flat and to my knowledge has never cleaned any room in the flat since she got here, leaving it all to me and the flatmate that moved out. Now I'm on my own it's all becoming a bit much. I spent a whole day scrubbing the place before they got here and now it's a wreck. Also, this morning I went into the bathroom and discovered that they had left some balled up toilet paper with blood on it lying on top of my towels. There were two empty shelves above them, and there's the bin in the bathroom along with the toilet they could have used instead. It's like they're trying to annoy me but I have been nothing but nice. I clean, tidy up after myself, buy stuff for the flat if we need it, I've made her food, gave her an energy drink when she wanted it. Whereas she hasn't gone out of her way to do anything nice so I'm not sure what I've done to deserve this.

The kitchen has been a mess for days but I refuse to clean up their mess any more. I would talk to my landlord about it but she stipulated in the lease that everything had to be sorted between ourselves. I don't want to get into an argument with them either since I think I'd just crumble.
So... Any advice on how to handle this?
Also, I know this is quite long so thank you for reading.
 

JoshGod

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Well It sounds like Your flatmate is in an abusive relationship. There isn't much you can do unless she wants to end it, but it seems she cant get away from her girlfriend as she is always following her to talk about it. I have had experience with domestic abuse and at least in my situations found that all you can do is be there and be supportive to your flatmate until she wants to end it, but you can't push her towards it she has to reach that point on her own.

I suppose in your post you haven't said what you want. Do you want the girlfriend to leave, the relationship to end or just the house to be kept clean?

If you want the girlfriend out then all I can think of is the tenancy agreement, usually there is information about guests and she's probably reaching the limit.

As for ending the relationship there's nothing beyond what I've said just be there for her.

If you want a clean house, well it's not going to happen the girlfriend doesn't care and is an overbearing dominant person and isn't going to clean someone else's house Ill'd recommend trying to store all your things in your room and trying to get her out of the house.

I'm curios what is your native language and what is it where you are staying, what is your gender and have you had any similar experiences with unpleasant people before, if you don't mind me asking?
 

Jux

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Krustosaurus said:
The kitchen has been a mess for days but I refuse to clean up their mess any more. I would talk to my landlord about it but she stipulated in the lease that everything had to be sorted between ourselves. I don't want to get into an argument with them either since I think I'd just crumble.
So... Any advice on how to handle this?
Also, I know this is quite long so thank you for reading.
I know this isn't preferable for you, but you're going to have to assert yourself if you want this fixed. I would reccomend writing down your list of greivances, bullet point, and go over them with your roommate. I don't know where you live, so I don't know the laws, but as far as getting the g/f out in a timely manner, you might want to look into the specifics of the lease. If her name isn't on it, it would seem that there would be a way to get her out of there forcibly. This might cause a rift with the roommate, so you'll want to make sure you can handle yourself financially if she decides to bail on you.

It sounds though like the way you are living is not sustainable. You just need to remind yourself of that whenever you feel like you're going to buckle under the pressure.
 

Mr. Charles

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I'd say talk face to face about your problems, try and stay calm - I find writing lists and "rules" and stuff causes more problems than it solves - try to reach a compromise
 

OneCatch

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Jux said:
Krustosaurus said:
The kitchen has been a mess for days but I refuse to clean up their mess any more. I would talk to my landlord about it but she stipulated in the lease that everything had to be sorted between ourselves. I don't want to get into an argument with them either since I think I'd just crumble.
So... Any advice on how to handle this?
Also, I know this is quite long so thank you for reading.
I know this isn't preferable for you, but you're going to have to assert yourself if you want this fixed. I would reccomend writing down your list of greivances, bullet point, and go over them with your roommate. I don't know where you live, so I don't know the laws, but as far as getting the g/f out in a timely manner, you might want to look into the specifics of the lease. If her name isn't on it, it would seem that there would be a way to get her out of there forcibly. This might cause a rift with the roommate, so you'll want to make sure you can handle yourself financially if she decides to bail on you.

It sounds though like the way you are living is not sustainable. You just need to remind yourself of that whenever you feel like you're going to buckle under the pressure.
OP, I agree with is, but I'd add that you should only talk to the room-mate about it. Demand to talk to them alone if needs be. You're less likely to get ganged up on or 'out-talked' that way.

Regardless, it sounds like they're taking the piss. If the gf stays for more than a few days it should be agreed with you in advance, and they should cover their own cleaning, cooking, and not be disruptive. That said, it sounds like your housemate, for whatever reason, is being just as unfair and disruptive as the gf by going along with it, so I don't think you can fairly blame it all on the gf.

Are you in the UK? Because if so your rental agreement *probably* has some prohibition of subletting, or additional tenants, which this probably comes under.Most standard ones do.
This is an advantage for you because you always have the nuclear option of telling the landlord about the gf if it comes to it, but bear in mind that if things get really bad (either in terms of cleanliness, damage, or persistent neighbourly/police complaints) the landlord might get sick of it and evict all of you.
 

Krustosaurus

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JoshGod said:
So... Sorry for the delay! It's been almost a month now that's she's been here. Huzzah.
Yeah, I don't think there's any way I could help her if her relationship is abusive, we barely speak and I don't really know what's going on with them.
I just want the place to be tidy and for the girlfriend to go home. I asked my flatmate if they could tidy up after themselves and now they leave less crumbs lying about and have loaded the dishwasher once or twice before putting everything in the drawer wet... But that's as far as their contribution has gone. I am still left to clean the flat by myself. There is nothing in my tenancy agreement about guests but I talked to my landlord about it and she says she'll have a talk with them. The last time she just came over and told them that the bills would be higher if more people are staying so that wasn't much help.
Lastly, if my native language wasn't apparent from my first post then I'm deeply ashamed. We all speak the same language so there's no barrier there.
Jux said:
I would assert myself but I'm a chicken and want things to go as smoothly as possible for the last five months I'm here. I might try airing my grievances when the girlfriend leaves (whenever that is). Fortunately, my flatmates not paying their bills or leaving unexpectedly has no effect on my rent or bills since the landlord pays the difference, so I guess I'm quite lucky in that respect.
OneCatch said:
Yeah, I can't just blame her for this. We moved from the UK to Spain and our landlord hasn't included anything of the sort. I think there's something in the lease about evicting flatmates that are difficult to live with so it is possible that one or both of us could leave. Although this option wouldn't be so bad as there are much nicer places here to live for the same money I am paying and I have the money to move so that could be a bonus really. Although the landlord knows what's going on and isn't having much luck finding someone to rent our spare room so I doubt it will come to that.

Thank you for your replies! Hopefully this will all be sorted out tomorrow :)
 

JoshGod

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Krustosaurus said:
Well it all sounds like things are improving which is good! I was a little concerned given the behaviour of the girlfriend having lived with less than pleasant people in the past, and the lack of responses, but you're still alive, well I'm assuming it's the real you. what did we do together last Tuesday!?!
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Good luck moving forward, and perhaps moving away is worth considering as your flatmate is unfair to you. Especially as you seem like the more gentile person who avoids conflict.

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