FOOD!! for thought "no gender"

[AlexNora]

i offten tend to wonder why things are not different then they are. like if life evolved from non living matter what did the very first organism eat and how did it reproduce. if it reproduced asexually why dont more animals today reproduce that way it seems far more effective in assuring the continuation of a species.

so heres the real question: if everyone became genderless including you what would you do?

 

[Sirpipple]

I think I would do the same thing I'm doing now, surfing the internet.

 

[HerbertTheHamster]

I recall reading the first living lifeforms being RNA sequences, feeding on amino acids. Not sure if that's proven though.

I'd probably go out and tell feminists to bugger off, then eat bacon.

 

[Damien Granz]

I often tend to wonder why things are not different then they are. like if life evolved from non living matter what did the very first organism eat and how did it reproduce. if it reproduced asexually why don't more animals today reproduce that way it seems far more effective in assuring the continuation of a species.

so here's the real question: if everyone became genderless including you what would you do?

Not a lot, though I'm genderqueer anyways and don't identify as 'male' or 'female', but neutral anyways, so I might have a biased opinion already!

I guess I'd have a much smaller libido if I was sexless though (presuming by 'gender' you mean 'having no biological or chromosomal sexual characteristics' and not 'gender identity')!

But in all seriousness, it'd be like saying "What if you didn't have to eat and never had to".. like I guess I'd lose something I'd like to do, but, would I really notice it? Nope. Would I, me as I am miss those feelings? Maybe! I'd probably miss eating too, like I guess if I became a robot in the same way though.

Edit: As for gender selection, there is a lot of thought on the matter, but a large part of it (but in no way the whole story), is that sexual characteristics allow for more controlled randomization of genes, and species capable of it adapt to new environments or species quicker than those without, and thus live to reproduce more often even if said reproduction or gestation periods are much longer.

But then again, bacteria and jellyfish are pretty huge contenders for 'king of the world' in a way, so asexual reproduction still has a place I guess!

In a similar way though, that rape and pure heterosexuality isn't always selected for even if you'd think rape would randomize genes and cause reproduction faster and you'd think homosexuality would slow it down more, but some species (like our own!) live longer if multiple people (often more than than just 2 parents too) raise children to adulthood. So bonding and having caring, but non-reproductive family members raise the species's chance of survival.

Hope that is a bit of food for thought.

 

[Wuffykins]

I think I would do the same thing I'm doing now, surfing the internet.

But would there even be an Internet to speak of? As I would figure that the need or concept of pornography would be radically different in an asexual society.

 

[Megahedron]

Just a note, most species in the world can reproduce asexually, just not animals. We just don't care because they're very small (Bacteria, Archaea, Fungi, and so on). It's advantageous to reproduce sexually because it allows recombination of genetic material which creates an increased likelihood of good combinations occurring. Simplification!

Anyways, if everyone became genderless... Would that include sexless? Because I'd have to start worrying about my girlfriend, how would that change our relationship... Weird.

And then if I could start budding some new mes... I'd need to come up with a good way to name them. And convince them to band together with me to create some sort of futuristic super society devoted to curing everything that's disadvantageous about my genetics, like high blood pressure. And then we would live together in a dome of some sort, a collectivist commune.

It will be beautiful.

 

[Dags90]

Anyways, if everyone became genderless... Would that include sexless? Because I'd have to start worrying about my girlfriend, how would that change our relationship... Weird.

Genderless doesn't necessarily imply sexless. Nobody would say there are yeast "genders" but species of yeast can reproduce sexually under certain circumstances.

 

[AlexNora]

Just a note, most species in the world can reproduce asexually, just not animals. We just don't care because they're very small (Bacteria, Archaea, Fungi, and so on). It's advantageous to reproduce sexually because it allows recombination of genetic material which creates an increased likelihood of good combinations occurring. Simplification!

Anyways, if everyone became genderless... Would that include sexless? Because I'd have to start worrying about my girlfriend, how would that change our relationship... Weird.

And then if I could start budding some new mes... I'd need to come up with a good way to name them. And convince them to band together with me to create some sort of futuristic super society devoted to curing everything that's disadvantageous about my genetics, like high blood pressure. And then we would live together in a dome of some sort, a collectivist commune.

It will be beautiful.

if you don't drive yourself mad first XD (I think I might drive me crazy)


Because I'd have to start worrying about my girlfriend? i dont get this one.

 

[Jenx]

I'd sit on my ass and play video games.



....yeah so I'm not all that original, screw you!

 

[Megahedron]

Whoops. This was an accident post... Real one's below.

 

[Haukur Isleifsson]

Biology not your major I assume

Asexual reproduction is terrible for genetic diversity. And for organisms with so a long developmental process and such a complicated genome we really can't afford that.

Not that I know shit about shit. Just saying.

But I bet I would still fuck quite a lot even if I would reproduce asexually. Assuming you don't take away millions of years of evolutionary psychobiology with this change.

 

[bluewolf]

hmmmm, i guess the sperm bank would be worth alot of money then, wouldn't it? snatch and run!

But asides from that, i don't see how that would affect anything

 

[AlexNora]

Biology not your major I assume

Asexual reproduction is terrible for genetic diversity. And for organisms with so a long developmental process and such a complicated genome we really can't afford that.

Not that I know shit about shit. Just saying.

But I bet I would still fuck quite a lot even if I would reproduce asexually. Assuming you don't take away millions of years of evolutionary psychobiology with this change.

i kinda thought if it was the same as it is now we would be more susceptible to viruses and such, but i meant a more advanced asexuality (or whatever) something without the negative effects

 

[Megahedron]

Just a note, most species in the world can reproduce asexually, just not animals. We just don't care because they're very small (Bacteria, Archaea, Fungi, and so on). It's advantageous to reproduce sexually because it allows recombination of genetic material which creates an increased likelihood of good combinations occurring. Simplification!

Anyways, if everyone became genderless... Would that include sexless? Because I'd have to start worrying about my girlfriend, how would that change our relationship... Weird.

And then if I could start budding some new mes... I'd need to come up with a good way to name them. And convince them to band together with me to create some sort of futuristic super society devoted to curing everything that's disadvantageous about my genetics, like high blood pressure. And then we would live together in a dome of some sort, a collectivist commune.

It will be beautiful.

if you don't drive yourself mad first XD (I think I might drive me crazy)


Because I'd have to start worrying about my girlfriend? i dont get this one.

Oh yes, I've met people my friends thought were like me before and I found them all annoying. So we'd all be completely crazy.

Well, to define the hypothetical, in this situation genderless means sexless (though as Dags90 pointed out, that isn't necessarily true). If we were no longer sexually attracted to each other, I'd still enjoy spending time with her, and (hypothetically, I'm not nearly this far into the relationship) want to live with her and spend my life with her. But if sex wasn't involved, why couldn't like five of us be all happy living together? There'd be no reason to be jealous, except y'know... emotionally. Come to think of it, I don't think I could handle that. And yeah, whole long list of conundrums. Like I said, it'd be weird.

And as I finish, I realized you might just be questioning my phrasing. By "worry about my girlfriend" I really meant worry about our relationship.

Now I'm really getting all introspective about this. Food for thought indeed...

 

[viking97]

to answer your question: there was no first living organism. a whole bunch of simple bacteria evolved at more or less the same time.

to answer your other question: go hang out with my clone mom, clone sisters and clone relatives.

 

[AlexNora]

Just a note, most species in the world can reproduce asexually, just not animals. We just don't care because they're very small (Bacteria, Archaea, Fungi, and so on). It's advantageous to reproduce sexually because it allows recombination of genetic material which creates an increased likelihood of good combinations occurring. Simplification!

Anyways, if everyone became genderless... Would that include sexless? Because I'd have to start worrying about my girlfriend, how would that change our relationship... Weird.

And then if I could start budding some new mes... I'd need to come up with a good way to name them. And convince them to band together with me to create some sort of futuristic super society devoted to curing everything that's disadvantageous about my genetics, like high blood pressure. And then we would live together in a dome of some sort, a collectivist commune.

It will be beautiful.

if you don't drive yourself mad first XD (I think I might drive me crazy)


Because I'd have to start worrying about my girlfriend? i dont get this one.

Oh yes, I've met people my friends thought were like me before and I found them all annoying. So we'd all be completely crazy.

Well, to define the hypothetical, in this situation genderless means sexless (though as Dags90 pointed out, that isn't necessarily true). If we were no longer sexually attracted to each other, I'd still enjoy spending time with her, and (hypothetically, I'm not nearly this far into the relationship) want to live with her and spend my life with her. But if sex wasn't involved, why couldn't like five of us be all happy living together? There'd be no reason to be jealous, except y'know... emotionally. Come to think of it, I don't think I could handle that. And yeah, whole long list of conundrums. Like I said, it'd be weird.

And as I finish, I realized you might just be questioning my phrasing. By "worry about my girlfriend" I really meant worry about our relationship.

Now I'm really getting all introspective about this. Food for thought indeed...

XD no no i wasn't getting offended or anything just this is the kinda introspective thinking i wanted to hear very interesting to think of a possible marriage less society but i do tend to get jealous of my best friends ignoring me for other people. so maybe some kind of binding commitment might still be necessary.

 

[Treeinthewoods]

No more fapping?

Who will feed/shelter the poor porn stars, strippers and hookers we all know and love?

Won't somebody please think of the strippers!

 

[Wintermoot]

don,t worry about getting kids.
also life developed sexually so it can change itself so that no living creature has to worry about genetic defects.

 

[infohippie]

I'd probably be unhappy that there are no more boobies. I mean seriously, a world without boobies? What's the point in going on?

As for your first point, many species do reproduce asexually, yes it is an easier way to continue the species. However, by doing that you don't get to combine traits from two different members of the species which leads to a far slower rate of change or improvement, which leads to extinction in the long run when your environment changes too quickly for your poor slowed-down mutation rate to cope with.

(The above is a gross over-simplification, but it captures the essentials)

 

[AlexNora]

I'd probably be unhappy that there are no more boobies. I mean seriously, a world without boobies? What's the point in going on?

As for your first point, many species do reproduce asexually, yes it is an easier way to continue the species. However, by doing that you don't get to combine traits from two different members of the species which leads to a far slower rate of change or improvement, which leads to extinction in the long run when your environment changes too quickly for your poor slowed-down mutation rate to cope with.

(The above is a gross over-simplification, but it captures the essentials)

you never know maybe we would have breast i didn't say we would all look like men.

now you can think about what you would do with your new "development"

about the strippers it might be acceptable to go outside naked if we were all the same