"For a Wii Game" and why I hate that statement

[AnAngryMoose]

Personally, I use that phrase because, in my opinion, motion sensitive gaming is the gaming equivalent of what 3-D is to theater (Utter shit).

 

[Direwolf750]

Overall the Wii is just worse. IN ALMOST EVERY RESPECT. I have all three systems, played a number of games on each one, and personally have found it lacking. It is worse graphically, the controls are weird at best, self strangulating normally, and all its games are worse than they would be on other systems (Dead Rising anybody?). There are some exceptions(Twilight Princess, Metroid), but pretty much all the Wii has going for it is novelty value and a few old franchises occasionally twitching in their graves. Once the novelty value runs out, it will sink and die, and everyone will rejoice.

ALL HAIL THE HYPNOTOAD

 

[EBHughsThe1st]

What are these "good Wii games" you speak of?

That's really funny. Think of that yourself?

 

[Direwolf750]

The Wii is less powerful than the other two consoles out right now. That is fact. If a Wii game were to have been made for one of those two consoles, developers would be able to do more with their game, far more likely than not, making it better.

Hardware does not equal quality. Your argument is pure shit. The Wii is a haven for shovelware and a lot of the games are only barely one step above Newgrounds flash games. A few of the games are legitimately good like Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom and No More Heroes, but most of the Wii's game selection is pretty fucking bad.

If a game like Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom were to be made on the 360 or PS3, the Developers would be able to include utilize far more content because those consoles can actually handle it. I'll go back to Dead Rising on the Wii and 360. Look at how much more can be processed at once. That is what I'm talking about here. The games would also look better, being in HD.

"HD"
Most of those super flashy next-gen games can barely manage their own framerates with noticeable drops into the 20s. There is a lot of trickery that happens to get those "better looking games" to run.
My perspective on console games is kinda different though, cause to me, they all look like shit. They're just different grades of shit. I judge them all on gameplay alone. (1920 x 1080 - Constant 60FPS on everything with all options maxed. Now THAT is HD. PC Gaming ftw.).

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Yes yes yes and more yes. Those are all awesome games.

Based on gameplay alone the Wii doesn't have much going for it that wouldn't handle (and look) better without clumsy movement sensors. And games that are only one step above flash games SHOULD be on newgrounds. If they are small time, or even just not much to them, then they should be available for free, but to use your own argument, Castle Crashers plays just fine on the 360, thanks for asking.

 

[nick n stuff]

wii sucks balls. end off

 

[Direwolf750]

What are these "good Wii games" you speak of?

That's really funny. Think of that yourself?

I agree, I'd really like to know. Go ahead, if you're so clever.

 

[Wolfy4226]

No, it's because the Wii is utter **** when compared to the PS3 and 360, and trying to find an actual good game on the Wii, especially without research, is like trying to find a 2 millimeter diamond in a pile of elephant feces. >_>

 

[ThePurpleStuff]

The Wii is alright, but I'm playing my PS3 more than it, definitely, also I just use my Wii for gamecube games and ones bought on VC. Also, a lot of wii games I've played that are good don't even use the motion controls, just the classic or GC controllers, like Muramasa, fucking awesome game for a button masher. So I pretty much described it as a replacement for my gamecube and old game storage, except for a few splashes of official goodness.

 

[ohellynot]

What are these "good Wii games" you speak of?

Be fair, the Wii has been going for nigh on four years.
So there'l probably be about 5 good games.

 

[Mr. Fister]

Spoiler: To everyone who thinks the Wii's limited graphic capabilities is what prevents it from making good games.

This game currently has a Metacritic rating of 98, has received several perfect scores from normally harsh gaming critics, and just passed Ocarina of Time as GameRanking's highest-rated video game of all time. And yes, it was made specifically for the Wii.

Seriously, this is yet another Wii-centered topic full of faulty arguments and ego-massaging. Bad Wii games exist because of developers not even trying to make something worthwhile, not because of the motion controls or limited graphics. This has happened since gaming first became known, and is not exclusive to the Wii by any stretch of the imagination. If you took Red Steel and put it on the HD systems (i.e. port the game as it is with added HD), it would still be mediocre and instantly forgettable. No amount of better graphics would change that. If developers put the same amount of effort into Project Natal or Playstation Move as they have with Wii, the games will turn out to be of the same quality, end of story.

 

[Aura Guardian]

Spoiler: To everyone who thinks the Wii's limited graphic capabilities is what prevents it from making good games.

This game currently has a Metacritic rating of 98, has received several perfect scores from normally harsh gaming critics, and just passed Ocarina of Time as GameRanking's highest-rated video game of all time. And yes, it was made specifically for the Wii.

Seriously, this is yet another Wii-centered topic full of faulty arguments and ego-massaging. Bad Wii games exist because of developers not even trying to make something worthwhile, not because of the motion controls or limited graphics. This has happened since gaming first became known, and is not exclusive to the Wii by any stretch of the imagination. If you took Red Steel and put it on the HD systems (i.e. port the game as it is with added HD), it would still be mediocre and instantly forgettable. No amount of better graphics would change that. If developers put the same amount of effort into Project Natal or Playstation Move as they have with Wii, the games will turn out to be of the same quality, end of story.

What took you look enough Fister? I'd assume you'd be here faster

 

[Mr. Fister]

Spoiler: To everyone who thinks the Wii's limited graphic capabilities is what prevents it from making good games.

This game currently has a Metacritic rating of 98, has received several perfect scores from normally harsh gaming critics, and just passed Ocarina of Time as GameRanking's highest-rated video game of all time. And yes, it was made specifically for the Wii.

Seriously, this is yet another Wii-centered topic full of faulty arguments and ego-massaging. Bad Wii games exist because of developers not even trying to make something worthwhile, not because of the motion controls or limited graphics. This has happened since gaming first became known, and is not exclusive to the Wii by any stretch of the imagination. If you took Red Steel and put it on the HD systems (i.e. port the game as it is with added HD), it would still be mediocre and instantly forgettable. No amount of better graphics would change that. If developers put the same amount of effort into Project Natal or Playstation Move as they have with Wii, the games will turn out to be of the same quality, end of story.

What took you look enough Fister? I'd assume you'd be here faster

I had a bit of drama involving my college life, and it left me in a bit of a bad mood afterwards. Do NOT stop paying attention to your college emails during summer break. You will regret it.

 

[Aura Guardian]

Spoiler: To everyone who thinks the Wii's limited graphic capabilities is what prevents it from making good games.

This game currently has a Metacritic rating of 98, has received several perfect scores from normally harsh gaming critics, and just passed Ocarina of Time as GameRanking's highest-rated video game of all time. And yes, it was made specifically for the Wii.

Seriously, this is yet another Wii-centered topic full of faulty arguments and ego-massaging. Bad Wii games exist because of developers not even trying to make something worthwhile, not because of the motion controls or limited graphics. This has happened since gaming first became known, and is not exclusive to the Wii by any stretch of the imagination. If you took Red Steel and put it on the HD systems (i.e. port the game as it is with added HD), it would still be mediocre and instantly forgettable. No amount of better graphics would change that. If developers put the same amount of effort into Project Natal or Playstation Move as they have with Wii, the games will turn out to be of the same quality, end of story.

What took you look enough Fister? I'd assume you'd be here faster

I had a bit of drama involving my college life, and it left me in a bit of a bad mood afterwards. Do NOT stop paying attention to your college emails during summer break. You will regret it.

I know what you mean.

 

[Nopenahnuhuh]

Here's the thing: wii games are not good enough to peak the interest of anyone who already has a PS3 or Xbox 360. Good wii titles are hard to come by and are usually subpar when compared to released games of the afforementioned.

Mario Galaxy 2 has nothing on Little big Planet (it not only offers more fun and originality than the first but also has infinite potential and always has me coming back for more creative user content), in my opinion, nor does MadWorld in any other hack and slash game. The Wii is an old generation console with an overhyped gimmick. It's the power glove only it works, a child's toy with an uninteresting pile of generic kiddy games with a few good titles sticking out of the muck but being overshadowed not only by the Wii's limitations but also by the new generation titles which do everything the wii games do and do them a lot better, so it hardly warrants a purchase, if at all.

 

[irishstormtrooper]

What are these "good Wii games" you speak of?

I know, I haven't heard of those, either.

 

[AdmiralWolverineLightningbolt]

Game of the Year arguments don't hold any water because even IF the game wins ALL of the game of the year awards out there, there will STILL be another 30 games of the year that year. The Wii is a great system for nostalgia and casual gamers, but it can't actually play most of the games that come out on the other systems. Add in that Nintendo still seems to think that video games are for children and only for children and you get a large number of games that are made poorly because children don't have high standards or expectations. The Wii's extremely high percentage of shovelware really doesn't help the system at all. When 200 games a year come out for a system and 190 of them are things like "cooking mama" and "trauma clinic" (games that even as little as 5 years ago would never have sold) you kind of get the impression that the system doesn't have ANY good games.

so you admit that there are 10 good games for every 200 games?
whatever, his point was that wii games cant compare which based on GOTY, they can

Take a look at the difference between Dead Rising on the 360, and Dead Rising on the Wii. Big difference there, despite the Wii version coming out later.

I feel that if Galaxy and Galaxy 2 were on more powerful consoles, you could have even bigger worlds, and more to do in them. They would be even better than they already are.

i disagree
just because capcom made a shit port, that doesnt represent the wii

And what about the dozens of other shitty Wii ports out there? Like "The Force Unleashed", "Spiderman 3",or "Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 2"? Or just flat out crap games like "Soul Calibur Legends", "Godzilla Unleashed", or "Far Cry Vengence"?

a few shitty ports dont make every port shit
cod4 and waw among others were still decent, just graphically behind a bit

Edit: nvm, i don't really care. Enjoy your Wii...

also known as "im wrong but would rather not look like a butthurt idiot"

No, more like I don't care enough to argue about it. I could write an entire essay on why I hate the Wii but why should I care if anyone else likes it?

that's actually a really mature response, im sorry i called you a butthurt idiot
but hating a system i always find is stupid
i hate sony for example but the ps3 is just another medium to play games in which i personally dont enjoy
but fair play

 

[Tharwen]

Because no-one except Nintendo knows how to use the motion controller well, so most of the games are shit, and this lowers expectations, making the few games that are actually good a surprise.

 

[CATS FTW]

You've answered your own question: "[it's] because good Wii games aren't as good as a good Xbox game or a good PS3 game". They're good for what they are and if you want to mess around on the Wii the Red Steel may be good for that, but if you want a great experiance go look on another console. It's good for what it is, it's still not great though.

when galaxy 2 wins every game of the year award, will this argument still apply?

IF Galaxy 2 wins every single game of the year award, I will come back to this threat and edit out my post. Then eat my hat.

we are talking about the same galaxy 2 which already the joint second highest game on the entire of metacritics with only a percentage behind ocarina of time arent we?
and the same galaxy 2 which is the sequel to galaxy 1 which won game of the year from gamespot, ign and gametrailers ahead of cod4 and where the sequel is supposedly better according to them as well right?

and you dont think it will win pretty much every game of the year award? really?

But, how can it win when we have... HALO REACH !!!!!! AND PORTAL 2, AND SHOOP-DAH-WHOOP 8,000?

 

[xscoot]

The Wii is less powerful than the other two consoles out right now. That is fact. If a Wii game were to have been made for one of those two consoles, developers would be able to do more with their game, far more likely than not, making it better.

Nope. If it came out on other consoles, it would have to be an FPS game, or it wouldn't sell.

Face it, the wii works because of variety. NMH and Little King's story wouldn't have even gotten a foothold on other platforms. Besides, the wii is more powerful than every console last gen. It can do great things, it just needs a little work.

I always preferred a unique graphical style (de Blob, NMH) to "ultra-realistic brown and bloom" anyways.