Foreign flags in the US
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Chill man. Where I live a lot of us, myself included, fly a flag of some kind or another to signify our ethnicity. I have a Polish eagle on my car. My loyalty is not to Poland, and my family has been here since the 1890s. You would be hard pressed to find a region where being an economic nationalist and truly supporting your country is so widespread. Being that my entire heritage is composed of hyper-patriotic factory workers (World War Two? Arsenal of Democracy?) and has been as long as any of us can remember, should I not be allowed to fly whatever I want?sneakypenguin said:
Unless you can verify that the individual was not a legal, tax paying resident you really have no ground to stand on. I get more pissed when I see somebody driving an imported car (probably to Wal-Mart where they will buy cheap Chinese crap) in fact. You not liking something doesn't carry any weight with me as an argument. I don't like Confederate flags on stuff but there's always a gaggle of morons with em.
I know what you mean. For St Andrews day, I hung a Soltaire on my window and it was "politely requested" to be taken down, for fear of offending people. Dammit, that offended me, not being able to celebrate what is essentially National Scotland Day, in Scotland, by hanging a Scottish flag in my bloody window!sms_117b said:
That's fucking gay. You should have told em to piss off and go bother a skinhead or someone truly offensive.T-Bone24 said:
No. Only because going to Georgia and seeing houses draped in Confederate flags and not the hint of a US flag makes me angry as hell.
Yes, I am an ignorant America! Whoo go America, kill people who think different!Goatlemon said:
No, I understand perfectly well the necessity of allowing people to express their opinions in whatever manner they want. Unfortunately, intellectually knowing that I shouldn't care does not stop me from felling the hate welling up at ignorant back woods rednecks who are still fighting the civil war. I can no more separate myself from that anger then I can separate my heart from my body.
another xenophobic american complaining about the latinos with their cinco de mayo and their mariachi music and their tequila (with and without the worm) and their spicy food and their alluring yet unattainable women. OH MARIA!
should there be a law that you can't fly a flag? wouldn't that law be as unconstitutional as a law against burning flags? Wouldn't that scream in the face of the first amendment? The very fucking first one?
No, people should be able to say whatever the fuck they want to say, however the fuck they want to say it, be it via waving a flag or screaming at the top of their lungs at the fucking white house. That means you can say what you want too, enjoy it.
If you don't like someone flying a flag, you can talk to them yourself about it, but start talking about laws makes it a whole other story.
As for the Properness of it, get off your high horse.
should there be a law that you can't fly a flag? wouldn't that law be as unconstitutional as a law against burning flags? Wouldn't that scream in the face of the first amendment? The very fucking first one?
No, people should be able to say whatever the fuck they want to say, however the fuck they want to say it, be it via waving a flag or screaming at the top of their lungs at the fucking white house. That means you can say what you want too, enjoy it.
If you don't like someone flying a flag, you can talk to them yourself about it, but start talking about laws makes it a whole other story.
As for the Properness of it, get off your high horse.
Well, to be honest,
I always wanted to use that image somewhere. But really, if people want to fly their own flags, let them! Freedom of speech, and what does it hurt? Now, obviously, if it's like a Confederate or Nazi flag, with obvious white-supremacist implications, it should be taken down. But if it's just the flag of an actual country, there's nothing wrong with it. If you're from a different country, perhaps you want to make your heritage known, and this is a harmless way to do so.
Plus, many people are hardly proud to be Americans. I wasn't at all until Bush left office, and even now I certainly wouldn't put up a damn flagpole in my yard.
I always wanted to use that image somewhere. But really, if people want to fly their own flags, let them! Freedom of speech, and what does it hurt? Now, obviously, if it's like a Confederate or Nazi flag, with obvious white-supremacist implications, it should be taken down. But if it's just the flag of an actual country, there's nothing wrong with it. If you're from a different country, perhaps you want to make your heritage known, and this is a harmless way to do so.
Plus, many people are hardly proud to be Americans. I wasn't at all until Bush left office, and even now I certainly wouldn't put up a damn flagpole in my yard.
No, that's just stupid.
If you want to fly another country's flag, you have every right to. Being forced to fly another flag as well, just to show 'patriotism', is a joke.
Besides, here in Australia, the only people who fly the Australian flag these days are those idiots who started the cronulla riots, and pick on the indians at music festivals and during new years.
Let me ask you this: If a Texan flew his state's flag in California, should he be forced to also fly the Californian state flag?
If you want to fly another country's flag, you have every right to. Being forced to fly another flag as well, just to show 'patriotism', is a joke.
Besides, here in Australia, the only people who fly the Australian flag these days are those idiots who started the cronulla riots, and pick on the indians at music festivals and during new years.
Let me ask you this: If a Texan flew his state's flag in California, should he be forced to also fly the Californian state flag?
Why not fly a confederate flag? What if your great grandfather was in the confederate army and you wanted to honor that?Yokai said:
Eh as long as they are flying together properly it wouldn't matter to much. I've never actually seen someone fly a state flag though.TheRealCJ said:
Well, because the Confederate flag has no place in today's society. It's too suggestive of white supremacy and slavery. Keep in mind that the Confederacy was formed because the Southern States wanted to keep their slave labor. There's little to be proud of there. Incidentally, one of my ancestors was in fact a Confederate soldier, and I certainly don't go around flaunting the fact. It's something of an embarrassment, in my opinion.Remember_the_name said:
I never called you ignorant or stereotyped you, so don't act like that. The comment about your country always going on about freedom comes from my personal observations and was not about calling you ignorant.Twilight_guy said:
And what makes them "ignorant back woods rednecks"? That's a bit insulting don't you think just because they have a different opinion to you?Twilight_guy said:
You're free to have a different opinion to them, and you don't have to like theirs, but to suggest that they shouldn't be able to express their opinion because it pisses you off is counter to that very freedom your country prides itself on.