Forget the zombie apocalypse
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I don't understand why the Americans are so frightened of there government, they have a damn sight more protection in terms of the constitution than we have in Britain and we don't keep bemoaning the fact that the government want to steal our houses and rape our wives, despite the fact that the British Government are actually doing the former and are no doubt working on legislation for the later.
We have managed to muddle along quite happily without the right to carry assault weapons, .44 Magnums and pump action shotguns. Interestingly and call me on this if Im wrong, one of the few countries that actually kept slaves in a major way is the one place where it's legal for the population to carry firearms.
Australia was built on criminals no proliferation of guns, Japan despite the unpleasantness with China and the over throw of the Samauri using gun powder no proliferation of guns, the UK yeah we are I think at the moment the knife crime capital of Europe however you can't get four kills a sec at 400 yards with a craft knife. The Uk was smart we made the money from slavery, utilised them as workforce but didnt keep them on our shores, we waited until the nineteen fifties to instigate a mass influx of Caribean people,they were coming to fill the work force and normally took the abuse of us stupid whites with good grace... No proliferation of guns. Ireland with secterian religious killings left right and centre, guns lots of guns paid for by American investors who had a romantic notion of the sons of erin fighting against us oppresive brits.
So one of the social factors in this mess is clearly slavery and yes the Uk caused the problem, but we were ssmart enough to farm the problem out to another country but still keep the profit. A phenomena continuing today in call centres right across india!
We have managed to muddle along quite happily without the right to carry assault weapons, .44 Magnums and pump action shotguns. Interestingly and call me on this if Im wrong, one of the few countries that actually kept slaves in a major way is the one place where it's legal for the population to carry firearms.
Australia was built on criminals no proliferation of guns, Japan despite the unpleasantness with China and the over throw of the Samauri using gun powder no proliferation of guns, the UK yeah we are I think at the moment the knife crime capital of Europe however you can't get four kills a sec at 400 yards with a craft knife. The Uk was smart we made the money from slavery, utilised them as workforce but didnt keep them on our shores, we waited until the nineteen fifties to instigate a mass influx of Caribean people,they were coming to fill the work force and normally took the abuse of us stupid whites with good grace... No proliferation of guns. Ireland with secterian religious killings left right and centre, guns lots of guns paid for by American investors who had a romantic notion of the sons of erin fighting against us oppresive brits.
So one of the social factors in this mess is clearly slavery and yes the Uk caused the problem, but we were ssmart enough to farm the problem out to another country but still keep the profit. A phenomena continuing today in call centres right across india!
This is a very touchy subject obviously, and there are two sides to the argument. However, you can put tough gun laws on citizens, and they will follow them. However, the criminals won't, that's why they're criminals, because they don't follow the law. So now you have citizens with no guns, and criminals with guns. Not to mention that it's a clear violation of the Bill of Rights.
Still though, there is a very high murder rate, so something must be done.
Still though, there is a very high murder rate, so something must be done.
if he had a friend i'd have shot them both in the face and told the police they reached into their pants for what seemed like weapons and i feared for my life.rossatdi said:
if he walks up to my car with a gun already in his hand, i'll just waste them before they even get close enough to intimidate me.
Lol I have more weapons then a US Armory. The reason for having Auto-Matic Weapons isn't to Defend yourself from crinimals, But to defend yourself from your Own GOVERNMENT. When the shit goes down and zombies or Revoulution happends, I'll be waiting with an AR-15 and a FS-2000.
I think guns are bad but one aspect a lot of people missed is depressed people owning guns, when I asked my dad why he sold his gun he said do my mom wouldn't shoot herself and where I live the most common deaths are suicide or car accidents. (while if they try to cut themselves or O.D you can rush them to the hospital)
in the American Constitution they gave us the rights to bear arms for one reason, Incase a Revolt of the goverment tried to take over,The people would be prepaired and protect themselfs. Look it up jack ass. And I follow every law and I have never been in trouble not even a speeding ticket. People should not be afraid of there goverments, Goverments should be afriad of there people.Silver said:
The American Constitution is an outdated relic from a time where society behaved in much different ways. It's good to use in a history class, but having such an outdated look on things is as bad as wanting to use the laws in the bible or the Qur'an in modern society.
People shouldn't fear their governments, in a civilised modern country, it's there to help them. It's also democratically selected in places like America.
The government shouldn't fear the people, because, no matter how much Americans want to believe it, the government and the people are not enemies. They're on the same side, consisting of the same people.
People shouldn't fear their governments, in a civilised modern country, it's there to help them. It's also democratically selected in places like America.
The government shouldn't fear the people, because, no matter how much Americans want to believe it, the government and the people are not enemies. They're on the same side, consisting of the same people.
nra gun totting propaganda vs. blind faith in the legal system to protect us hippy talk.rossatdi said:
i grew up around shady individuals, yes criminals. criminals who if they want a gun all they need to do is call their cousin or some guy they know and they can get access to some very lethal firepower, but now that i only hang around law abiding citizens i have to wait 5 days, a backround check, pay more money for these guns.
Sounds nice. Tell me if you find one. ;-)s0ap sudz said:
Silver, you're right in theory, and I really wish you could be right in practice - but there are simply too many cases of governments acting against the interests of their people. Personally I'm not a proponent of the "Lead Downrange" school of governmental theory, but blind faith in government is as bad as blind faith in anything else.
In some places it's considered unpatriotic to question one's government; in my opinion, it's unpatriotic not to. Every citizen's duty is to scrutinise their government, and vote them out if they get uppity...
Awmperry, I'm not talking about blind faith, and I'm not talking about those countries. I'm talking about frikkin' America.
And the last part is pretty important there. "And vote them out if they get uppity."
See, Americans have that option. They can vote their government out, and that's what they should do. That's what they can do, that's their right, their privilege and their duty. Not run to the nearest gun store and run of guns blasting because they didn't like the government.
And the last part is pretty important there. "And vote them out if they get uppity."
See, Americans have that option. They can vote their government out, and that's what they should do. That's what they can do, that's their right, their privilege and their duty. Not run to the nearest gun store and run of guns blasting because they didn't like the government.