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RedxDecember

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Hey everyone. If you've ever even heard of World Of Warcraft or tried it you know how addicting it is, and with the new exspansion out I'm having some weird dreams. My parents don't let me play W.O.W because I became too addicted to it. I'm having a cruddy time doing almost everything related to gaming. Any thoughts?
 

Trogd0r

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Renew your subscription anyway,
descend into a life of grinding and solitude.
 

Amnestic

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Stop sucking so much. The expansion's not "all that". It's nice, pretty and quite fun but certainly not a revolution in gaming history. Grab another new game (I hear Left 4 Dead is good) and immerse yourself in that for a while.
 

rossatdi

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Yeah, jesus man. Man up! Buy a copy of Left 4 Dead and blast zombies. Fuck grinding your way to hell.

Think of it this way:
What has a lvl 80 WoW player actually achieved for his 100s of hours except for giving Blizzard money?

Pick something that you'll want to play for 1-2 hours and then put down. Games should be a replacement for TV, not a replacement for ANYTHING else.
 

Doug

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Amnestic said:
Grab another new game (I hear Left 4 Dead is good) and immerse yourself in that for a while.
Yes, it is! With added Zombies too ;)
 

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GamerDude123 said:
Hey everyone. If you've ever even heard of World Of Warcraft or tried it you know how addicting it is, and with the new exspansion out I'm having some weird dreams. My parents don't let me play W.O.W because I became too addicted to it. I'm having a cruddy time doing almost everything related to gaming. Any thoughts?
I think, and as some people will be quick to point out this is just 'my opinion', that if you look objectively at the reasons you (and most people) enjoy WOW you'll get over it really quick. RPGS, particularly JRPGs and MMORPGs reward players without bettering them in any way. Now I'm not saying gaming suddenly has a point, it doesn't, you're still wasting time, but at least when I complete a platformer I can say I've become better at platformers. RPGs don't reward you for improving yourself, they reward you for time spent. I can play a platformer for 10 hours straight and not make any progress, you can play an RPG for 10 hours straight, go up 10 levels and collect a shitload of fancy boots, but in the end who's getting the most out of their time?

The conclusion you should ultimately come to is that video games are a massive waste of time and you should channel all that energy and dedication into something useful or creative. Like reorganising your sock drawer.
 

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Decoy Doctorpus said:
GamerDude123 said:
Hey everyone. If you've ever even heard of World Of Warcraft or tried it you know how addicting it is, and with the new exspansion out I'm having some weird dreams. My parents don't let me play W.O.W because I became too addicted to it. I'm having a cruddy time doing almost everything related to gaming. Any thoughts?
I think, and as some people will be quick to point out this is just 'my opinion', that if you look objectively at the reasons you (and most people) enjoy WOW you'll get over it really quick. RPGS, particularly JRPGs and MMORPGs reward players without bettering them in any way. Now I'm not saying gaming suddenly has a point, it doesn't, you're still wasting time, but at least when I complete a platformer I can say I've become better at platformers. RPGs don't reward you for improving yourself, they reward you for time spent. I can play a platformer for 10 hours straight and not make any progress, you can play an RPG for 10 hours straight, go up 10 levels and collect a shitload of fancy boots, but in the end who's getting the most out of their time?

The conclusion you should ultimately come to is that video games are a massive waste of time and you should channel all that energy and dedication into something useful or creative. Like reorganising your sock drawer.
Decoy, while I agree with you in part, I would also point out that the best RPGs reward you by telling you an absolutely fantastic story and immersing you in another world. It's just another form of escapism.

I'm a former WOW player and I won't be going back. I've had enough of it, I've moved on, there are better games to play. As rossatdi says, when you really do a proper, objective examination of your reasons for playing, you find that most of them aren't very good, and you actually aren't getting anything out of the game except making minor improvements to your character, which are ultimately meaningless anyway.
 

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Spend the money you would on subscribing for WoW to play Second Life. It's just as ultimately pointless, except there's more interesting social interaction (trust me, I know).

Edit: You can also make money on Second Life, and it's actually legal to do so, as opposed to gold farming in WoW.
 

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Decoy Doctorpus said:
The conclusion you should ultimately come to is that video games are a massive waste of time and you should channel all that energy and dedication into something useful or creative. Like reorganising your sock drawer.
Just don't get addicted to THAT. Then they'll make you go to therapy and put you on drugs.

And worst of all, they'll take away all your socks. You'll be wearing Crocs for the rest of your life. And believe me, no one wants that.
 

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Decoy Doctorpus said:
GamerDude123 said:
Hey everyone. If you've ever even heard of World Of Warcraft or tried it you know how addicting it is, and with the new exspansion out I'm having some weird dreams. My parents don't let me play W.O.W because I became too addicted to it. I'm having a cruddy time doing almost everything related to gaming. Any thoughts?
I think, and as some people will be quick to point out this is just 'my opinion', that if you look objectively at the reasons you (and most people) enjoy WOW you'll get over it really quick. RPGS, particularly JRPGs and MMORPGs reward players without bettering them in any way. Now I'm not saying gaming suddenly has a point, it doesn't, you're still wasting time, but at least when I complete a platformer I can say I've become better at platformers. RPGs don't reward you for improving yourself, they reward you for time spent. I can play a platformer for 10 hours straight and not make any progress, you can play an RPG for 10 hours straight, go up 10 levels and collect a shitload of fancy boots, but in the end who's getting the most out of their time?

The conclusion you should ultimately come to is that video games are a massive waste of time and you should channel all that energy and dedication into something useful or creative. Like reorganising your sock drawer.
I wear odd socks.

Actually, you decapitated the proverbial nail of it's head...almost. All games are a 'waste' of time, or rather, time spent on a recreative activity. However, this does not make them 'useless'.

Can anyone here honestly say that eating, sleeping, communting, working. Repeat and re-arrange as needed is all one needs to have a good life? People -need- something to fulfil the other aspect of their lives, that free time. Sure, if you get your kicks organising socks or stacking boxes, great, good for you. The same, you like playing games? You like playing a sport? You like collecting things? Awesome. No, none of those things serve a practical purpose in the sense that a job does. But, who exactly is it to deny you that? So what that you didn't spend that same time on reading, or making a bird house, or grinding that instance, or beating the other team, or organising one's socks. Different strokes m'kay?

I -like- MMO's, I like one MMO, I like WoW, I play regularly. I am not an addict, I can regulate my time. I do get bored with WoW sometimes. I regularly play, and finish other games. I am -not- unique in this regard.

Are there problems with WoW? Of course. Are there addicts and asses? Yup. Just like football has it's drunken yobs, avid book readers it's myopic misanthropes, just as sock organisers have their tyrannical overlords who insist on no odd socks.

A game is not a direct chemical addiction. It is not alcohol, it is not cocaine. Any such addictions are purely in my opinion psychological, and subject only to weak minded people, although, often due in part to the makeup of their own minds, and not strictly speaking entirely their fault. Much like gambling.

And that of course depends on whether you should think gambling should be banned too huh? So, alcohol too right? All other recreative drugs, porn? MMOs? Okay great, what next? Well, there's those guys who get too into which team they support and smash up the stadiums, so lets ban football too. What else? Well, we can't have fat people, so let's ban sweet and fatty foods for everyone and replace all food with nutrient pills, that will solve our obesity epidemic. And you know, I think something like that would, but, that doesn't make it right.
 

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Decoy Doctorpus said:
GamerDude123 said:
Hey everyone. If you've ever even heard of World Of Warcraft or tried it you know how addicting it is, and with the new exspansion out I'm having some weird dreams. My parents don't let me play W.O.W because I became too addicted to it. I'm having a cruddy time doing almost everything related to gaming. Any thoughts?
I think, and as some people will be quick to point out this is just 'my opinion', that if you look objectively at the reasons you (and most people) enjoy WOW you'll get over it really quick. RPGS, particularly JRPGs and MMORPGs reward players without bettering them in any way. Now I'm not saying gaming suddenly has a point, it doesn't, you're still wasting time, but at least when I complete a platformer I can say I've become better at platformers. RPGs don't reward you for improving yourself, they reward you for time spent. I can play a platformer for 10 hours straight and not make any progress, you can play an RPG for 10 hours straight, go up 10 levels and collect a shitload of fancy boots, but in the end who's getting the most out of their time?
I don't think that's entirely true. There are diminishing returns on getting better at RPGs, but there are DEFINITELY good players and bad players in World of Warcraft, and almost all of those good players started out as really lousy players who got better.

And being good at one MMO can transfer over to another MMO, even if the systems are entirely different, the overall jist of the game is the same, it's the same genre.

Sure, grinding itself doesn't teach you anything, but endgame progression certainly does.
 

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Decoy Doctorpus said:
RPGS, particularly JRPGs and MMORPGs reward players without bettering them in any way. Now I'm not saying gaming suddenly has a point, it doesn't, you're still wasting time, but at least when I complete a platformer I can say I've become better at platformers. RPGs don't reward you for improving yourself, they reward you for time spent. I can play a platformer for 10 hours straight and not make any progress, you can play an RPG for 10 hours straight, go up 10 levels and collect a shitload of fancy boots, but in the end who's getting the most out of their time?
First, let me argue, that you *CAN* get "better" at wow after playing for long enough. If you've seen noobs try to tank, or try to heal, or even try to DPS, they often are shittier than more experienced players and can wipe whole groups in instances. People who play for hours do still develop as WoW players: the skill-set involved is less about timing and reaction time, as in platforming, but more involved in learning the game and information, like where to grind, how to DPS, when to do certain moves... Etc.

Are WoW skills not on the same level as platforming skills?


The conclusion you should ultimately come to is that video games are a massive waste of time and you should channel all that energy and dedication into something useful or creative. Like reorganising your sock drawer.
I agree.
 

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Unless you consider yourself 'addicted' to the point where playing will affect your life in a bad way and make you less, rather than more happy, then consider every game that you might like to play and pick the one you want to play most. For me, it's common sense. I have just completed Fallout 3, and now I would like to start playing WoW again for a new experience which I am certain to enjoy. That's all there really is to it.
 

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Pigeon_Grenade said:
get addicted to another game, or play golf Replacing the golf balls with chipmonks

Good times.

Yeah, go do something destructive.
 

mGoLos

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Getting gamerpoints on the 360 is fun.

Especially if you're secretely competing with a friend who's slighty ahead of you ... I'll catch up this weekend and call that mofo ;)
 

RedxDecember

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K thx guys thanks for your thoughts, they really helped me. So I did move on, and guess what I bought? Guitar Hero World Tour!!!!!!!!!!