FortressCraft creator decides to be an arrogant dick

[Cridhe]

I have provided two pictures here.

http://mattplays.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/d2-1.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_KIU4QaKZDps/TQu3kC3W1wI/AAAAAAAAAIw/9dVnPtsohbM/s1600/halo-reach-screenshots.jpg

It's a graphics update and mutliplayer, man. Little else.

I have provided two pictures here.

http://www.mobiletoones.com/downloads/games/arcade/preview/96/p4950-1194356755.jpg

http://blog.gaboom.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/404721-boss_crocomire_sm_super.jpg

Such a rip off of Mario! Even the word "Super" is in the title!

 

[Dexiro]

Now, there's no getting around it, FortressCraft is a ripoff. It took similar gameplay and ideas from Minecraft and ported it to the 360 with a paint job, consciously trying to ride off the success of Minecraft (my personal threshold to "ripoff" territory). Even if you don't believe it's a ripoff, you can't deny all that.

Unless you're the creator of FortressCraft. And quite a douchecannon. [http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/09/20/designer-claims-fortresscraft-is-nothing-like-minecraft.aspx]

Some notable quotes include but are not limited to "but the actual gameplay is nothing like Minecraft," "Minecraft has been squeezed out of its own market... but if you want sexy graphics and shaders and the creative aspect, you have FortressCraft."

I can imagine how this guy must feel, knowing that all he had to do was remake a game with a different development kit and get insta-cash. I'm not saying FortressCraft is a bad game, and I'm not saying it shouldn't exist, but the creator could try be a bit less... like a giant, sweaty assburger with double bacon ass. Just a bit.

And if you play FortressCraft, I am completely indifferent (see: have nothing against you). Just wanted to put that out there.

Now bring on the flaming. I'll start my "Minecraft fanboy" and "then every FPS is a ripoff of Doom" counters.

Hasn't notch himself said he ripped off other games and that he had no problem with this game?

Yes but the thing is that Notch fully acknowledges which games he took inspiration from.

This guy on the other hand just seems so up his own ass; I didn't read the full article until half way through typing this post and holy fuck. He seems strangely at a loss to why Minecraft is doing so well and thinks his version is gods gift or something, though I'm sure Minecraft has multiple selling points over the ripoffs; not having an ass for a developer being one of them.

 

[FieryTrainwreck]

Someone's buying a lot of hookers and blow with a revenue stream that disappears in two months.

 

[repeating integers]

I have provided two pictures here.

http://mattplays.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/d2-1.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_KIU4QaKZDps/TQu3kC3W1wI/AAAAAAAAAIw/9dVnPtsohbM/s1600/halo-reach-screenshots.jpg

It's a graphics update and mutliplayer, man. Little else.

I have provided two pictures here.

http://www.mobiletoones.com/downloads/games/arcade/preview/96/p4950-1194356755.jpg

http://blog.gaboom.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/404721-boss_crocomire_sm_super.jpg

Such a rip off of Mario! Even the word "Super" is in the title!

Why, oh why, is this turning into an argument about FPS games, when what we should all clearly be doing is hating FortressCraft?

 

[SomeLameStuff]

Wait.....people actually play Fortresscraft? Don't give me the "people who don't have a computer for Minecraft" argument, because if you don't have a computer than can run Minecraft, then you don't have a computer at all. I haven't tried it, but I bet you could run the damn game from an Android phones web browser.

Actualy, not really. While the graphics of Minecraft are low and don't need that much power to render and all that, the MAIN schtick is the block generation, and that takes a truckload of processing power.

OT: This guy sounds like a perfect asshole. Not even IGN could have taken his words out of context to paint a bad image like that.

 

[manythings]

A quote on the website from someone who has the exact same opinion as me:

Wow, what an ass. He is right though, they are nothing alike. Minecraft has a humble dev and is actually fun, while FortressCraft is made by an ass and sucks.

inb4 "Minecraft fanboy" and "then every FPS is a ripoff of Doom"

Also every MMO and RPG, even the ones that pre-date it, are all just WoW.

 

[Stall]

Wait, but isn't Minecraft a rip-off of Infiniminer? So Fortresscraft is a rip-off of a rip-off? THAT LIKE BLOWS MY MIND MAN.

Anyways, this just goes to teach everyone an important lesson: being a nice, likable person lets you get away with a lot. Notch is a nice guy, so no one is bothered by the fact that Minecraft perhaps isn't the most originial title in the world. The Fortresscraft dev is a bit of a prick, so people do care. Odds say if he was a nice guy, no one would mind that Fortresscraft isn't a shining beacon of originality.

inb4 "Minecraft fanboy" and "then every FPS is a ripoff of Doom"

I have provided two pictures here.

http://mattplays.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/d2-1.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_KIU4QaKZDps/TQu3kC3W1wI/AAAAAAAAAIw/9dVnPtsohbM/s1600/halo-reach-screenshots.jpg

It's a graphics update and mutliplayer, man. Little else.

Too f'ing funny.

 

[TheTemby]

Thank you Chris.
Is this serious? Does he feel that he hasn't benefited enough from the success of others, he need to create some controversy and port his piracy to other consoles?
I would love to see Mojang become a part of Zenimax and watch as they sue the everlasting shit out of "Mr FortressCraft".

 

[Kungfu_Teddybear]

This guy is a total douche. How can he say they have no comparisons, this man's head is so far up his own ass he believes his own bullshit.

if you want sexy graphics and shaders, you have FortressCraft.

Sorry matey, but Minecraft's graphics are not it's selling point. Even if someone wanted "sexy" graphics, they could quite easily go and download a texture pack.

If you want the creative aspect, you have FortressCraft.

Sorry, what? I take it you haven't been paying any attention to the things people have made in Minecraft? Yeah, I've never seen someone build the Starship Enterprise-D or recreate Middle Earth in FortressCraft.

Nobody will pay for Minecraft when they can pay $3.00 for Total Miner or FortressCraft.

Clearly they do considering Minecraft has sold way better than FortressCraft.

 

[Rawne1980]

Nobody will pay for Minecraft when they can pay $3.00 for Total Miner or FortressCraft."

Hate to burst the bubble of Minecraft fans but the "dick" has a point.

I didn't buy Minecraft purely because, well, it doesn't appeal to me to part with cash to play with pixel lego.

However...

If that Fortresscraft gets ported to the PC and is selling for £1.30, yes folks thats one pound and thirty pence, let that sink in. Then guess which one people will buy?

I'll go for the cheapest myself.

 

[Waaghpowa]

Wait.....people actually play Fortresscraft? Don't give me the "people who don't have a computer for Minecraft" argument, because if you don't have a computer than can run Minecraft, then you don't have a computer at all. I haven't tried it, but I bet you could run the damn game from an Android phones web browser.

Actualy, not really. While the graphics of Minecraft are low and don't need that much power to render and all that, the MAIN schtick is the block generation, and that takes a truckload of processing power.

OT: This guy sounds like a perfect asshole. Not even IGN could have taken his words out of context to paint a bad image like that.

Anyone who buys a pre built computer from the last 5 years would have plenty enough processing power for minecraft. If you look around, Dell and HP computers come with i3, i5 and i7 processors. In fact, my girlfriend runs Minecraft on a computer with a single core 2.0 GHZ and 1 gig of ram from 6 years ago. The amount of processing power needed to play Minecraft isn't nearly high as you think.

 

[DasDestroyer]

Wait, but isn't Minecraft a rip-off of Infiniminer? So Fortresscraft is a rip-off of a rip-off? THAT LIKE BLOWS MY MIND MAN.

Anyways, this just goes to teach everyone an important lesson: being a nice, likable person lets you get away with a lot. Notch is a nice guy, so no one is bothered by the fact that Minecraft perhaps isn't the most originial title in the world. The Fortresscraft dev is a bit of a prick, so people do care. Odds say if he was a nice guy, no one would mind that Fortresscraft isn't a shining beacon of originality.

No, if he were a nice guy people wouldn't be blaming him of ripping a game off AND being a total douchebag about it. When FortressCraft was just announced and people didn't know how big of an ass he was, they still blamed him for blatantly ripping off Minecraft.
Also, FortressCraft is Minecraft with no mobs(from what I gather), a higher-def default texture pack and shaders. Putting aside the fact that you can get texture packs with up to 1024x1024 resolution and that a mod that adds shaders already exists, Minecraft is very much different from Infiniminer.

As you can see, minecraft is quite different to the game it 'ripped off'.

-infiniminer was about gathering ores for your team, in a competative multiplayer game. You mine out blocks and return them to give your team points. Highest score at the end wins the round. (You can go singleplayer, but it's just multiplayer with no people so there's really no point)

-minecraft is about building stuff in a sandbox game, with the option for resource gathering and crafting, with enemies that appear in the darkness to antagonise your efforts. Creative mode removes the threat posed by enemies, and the resource gathering requirements leaving it as a pure sandbox building game. Both multiplayer and singleplayer modes.

-both minecraft and infiniminer used blocks
-both minecraft and infiniminer had proceedurally generated levels

and here's a good clincher:
-minecraft was made after infiniminer's discontinuation.
(meaning it wasn't trying to leech off a current successful game like certain others...)

see how minecrafted compared to infiniminer is different from what fortresscraft did when compared to minecraft?

-all three: block based, with procedurally generated worlds.

-infinimier: team and class based competative resource mining game
-minecraft: sandbox freebuild game / sandbox survival resource gathering and construction game
-fortresscraft: sandbox freebuild game


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Also, I think it's pretty obvious to everyone here, but i'll say it anyway: Cloning a game and removing most of it's newest features does not make the game no longer a clone...

Oh, and don't forget that Notch admits getting his idea from Infiniminer, unlike some devs...

 

[Silenthillreturnz]

Shit happens

 

[Mosstromo]

Good Lord (Voldemort)...
'till today I had no idea of this polemic topic (thanks for the link to that note), and only imagined that MineCraft, as any great, legendary, ground-breaking (literally in this case :-D) product ever in history, would eventually generate its retinue of clones (which is really bad) and a fair share of "evolvers" (people that progress the concept, which very is good).
And so it did... But on what a level, man!
This guy, IMO, seems to be from the first kind trying to justify his way into the second kind.
What a f***ing twat. And besides, a LOUD f***ing twat.
If at least, like the OP said, he could just be a demure twat, the kind that knows what he's done and quietly goes through the success of his rip-off trying to not be noticed by history (or forum dwellers).

 

[Loonyyy]

Thanks for the link OP. Wow... just wow. I can't believe he'd go to the effort to diss a product he ripped off (Suggesting that compared to his game and another it is a poor investment), especially as said game is still in beta, and is likely to eventually have goals and Objectives (Story Update). Also, does anyone else find it weird that his "Sexy Shaders and Textures" Look kind of stupid when placed on MineCraftian Blocks? I mean, seriously, why the smooth textures if the landscape isn't? I don't see how that aesthetic choice is "Sexier" than Notches stylised old school pixels.

 

[Mrsoupcup]

I can see his point Fortress Craft is intended to head in a far different direction than Minecraft, with build you own fort PVP and such.

However, it's an indie game were you create stuff with blocks... It's like the whole Coke/Pepsi thing.

(For the record I prefer Minecraft )

if you're going to say block based graphics

I never mentioned block based graphics, I said you create stuff with blocks. Comprende?

[sub]Fortress Craft doesn't even have pixel graphics...[/sub]