Maybe we will get two great rival games out of it, but ive proven myself good at identifying game mechanics from pictures alone. This happens to be one thats hits a nerve.Irridium said:
Not saying im always right. Im merely right most of the time.
FortressCraft Q&A (for those who still think it's a blatant rip-off)
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Not saying im always right. Im merely right most of the time.
As far as i'm aware, Infiniminer was never actually completed. Minecraft may be in beta, but it's extremely evident that it's going to be finished and released as a full product in the not too distant future and the amount of popularity and general success is blindingly obvious. This is why what Fortresscraft is doing is wrong as opposed to what Notch did with Minecraft and Infiniminer. That's how i see it, anyway.Irridium said:
Well good for you. I'm just sick of everyone outright dismissing it as a rip-off. Especially when I criticize other games before they're released, I get verbally *****-slapped by people because I'm "judging it before I played it" or some bullshit like that. Its shit like this that really pisses me off, and I wish people would start being fucking consistent with this crap.gigastar said:
Sorry, ranted a little there. Just fired up.
I can appreciate that sentiment. In fact, i understand that it may even give Notch a little bit of competition to help him improve his product further. It's just difficult to look at Fortresscraft with an optimistic view when the principle of what the creator is doing is fairly offensive and arguably shameless to a lot of people, especially the majority of the fans of the genre(?). Even the name "Fortresscraft" is like a slap in the face to the game that inspired it. It'd be like somebody cloning Call of Duty and using Epic's spoof title, "Duty Calls". People would be pissed off. You can't make the "inspiration" THAT obvious. There ought to be a little bit more originality, even if it is an indie title. I can see there is potential for it, but the way it's being handled now is like running into an airport terminal and yelling the word 'bomb' just to get attention.Irridium said:
Actually it had a "Freeplay mode" Which was all about building stuff. You lose. Thanks for playing. Yes a duck and a goose are both birds. A keen observation. Mine craft and infiniminer are not birds. You lose again. It must suck being wrong ALL the time. How do you manage?Hardcore_gamer said:
For the record we agree, they are not the same. One was clearly inspired by another and therefor not original. (Not talking bout the duck and goose here, even if geese are blatant plagiarists) Notch admits this himself (even if you can't), but most people have never even SEEN infiniminer. You said it yourself, 90% of people know jack shit about it. That doesn't mean it never happened.
It's clear from your responses in this thread though that the most obvious thing that's hardcore about you is your frothing, rabid fanboyism. So I expect this post to be met with something resembling a small dog barking.
I think the fact that the world is randomly generated each time is enough to push it into a new genre. I'd call it more of an exploration game, because you can keep exploring indefinitely (which hardly any other 3D first-person game allows you to do).Binerexis said:
there is a difference between using it as a source and blatant rip off and every single gameplay video i've seen there is literally no difference in gameplay and the only real difference is better graphics, yo still mine blocks which are relatively the same size you still use these block to build stuff you use the blocks to make materials its still the same damn things, its not like they added a narrative or a setting or anything
Battlefield 3 looks like any other generic shooter(seriously, if nobody said it was Battlefield 3 I would have assumed it was the next Medal of Honor). Fallout 3 looks like brown ass. Team Fortress 2 looks like a light-hearted "casual" game. Maximo looks cartoon-y and easy.Hardcore_gamer said:
Point is, looks aren't everything. Battlefield 3 seems to be highly anticipated. Fallout 3 is considered a fantastic game. And Team Fortress 2 is one of the most loved PC games by the "hardcore" crowd. And Maximo is fucking insanely hard. I just think that people should wait to play until they cast such hard judgement. From the looks of the chapters, it seems it has quite a bit of stuff that Minecraft doesn't have. And again, with both of these existing, they could build off each other, making better products, which is good for everyone.
Two points.
1. The game is a rip off, copy, attempt to cash in, etc. If it were not, it would not have to fight so adamantly to attempt to defend itself. Also it would not be attempting to release a game so very similar to a somewhat unique game in such a short time frame.
2. Being a clone doesn't mean it will be a bad game. There are times in which the shadow can eclipse the caster. But to get there from here.. Is a long way.
Honestly what I hope is that the game does well and adds variety and unique aspects, and can spur Minecraft to greater things as well. Don't think that GTA4 did not benefit from seeing what the half dozen clones of GTA3 did well, and did not so well.
1. The game is a rip off, copy, attempt to cash in, etc. If it were not, it would not have to fight so adamantly to attempt to defend itself. Also it would not be attempting to release a game so very similar to a somewhat unique game in such a short time frame.
2. Being a clone doesn't mean it will be a bad game. There are times in which the shadow can eclipse the caster. But to get there from here.. Is a long way.
Honestly what I hope is that the game does well and adds variety and unique aspects, and can spur Minecraft to greater things as well. Don't think that GTA4 did not benefit from seeing what the half dozen clones of GTA3 did well, and did not so well.
Yeah, this really did nothing to convince me that it's not just a rip-off.
I mean come on....Look at it.
I mean come on....Look at it.
I think I'll wait until the guy actually releases the game to offer my "oh so important" judgement.
That said, I'm sick of everyone yelling "rip-off". Minecraft was a copy/paste of Infiniminer until Notch tweaked it to the point that you wouldn't know, because it changed so much.
That said, I'm sick of everyone yelling "rip-off". Minecraft was a copy/paste of Infiniminer until Notch tweaked it to the point that you wouldn't know, because it changed so much.
Just because they've added some stuff and used different graphics doesn't make it less of a blatant copy.
That's not a bad thing (people with consoles should be able to play as well), but don't try to pretend it's not a blatant copy. A cube-based building game where you can do whatever you want and build items such as bookshelves, released six months after Minecraft starts to gain massive popularity? Yeah, that's not "original" in any sense.
That's not a bad thing (people with consoles should be able to play as well), but don't try to pretend it's not a blatant copy. A cube-based building game where you can do whatever you want and build items such as bookshelves, released six months after Minecraft starts to gain massive popularity? Yeah, that's not "original" in any sense.