albino boo said:
Oh dear there is thing called mass production that only occurred after copyright and patents.
Irrlevant, given that mass production itself is funded by charging for the actual produced goods, not by copyright. That's why so many non-copyrighted products are also being mass-produced. Fedoras are still being mass-produced, because manufacturers don't actually need copy protection to create more of something once the design already exists.
Creating a new hat design today, isn't more difficult today than 500 years ago. If you would create a new hat design now, and a chinese manufacturer would copy it, you would be no worse off than the hatter who invented the cavalier hat and then had to compete with the other hatters for the few hundred sellable units that they could manufacture each.
The option of selling more though mass manufacturing isn't putting an
extra burden on you, that needs to be compensated for with copyright. it is an extra benefit that can be used if you have the capital for it.
Just because you can also imagine a chance to get absurdly rich, much more so than the medieval hatter could have been, by controlling all future production of your hat design, doesn't mean that you have an
inalianable moral right to demand that control, as long as new designs could be produced without it anyways (as they always have been), an you wouldn't actually
lose anything.
albino boo said:
Creativity was not done in the person spare time, artists have been commissioned for millennia.
I'm aware of the fact that creative works used to be exist as professions. I'm merely saying, that anywork that CAN BE done as a hobby, likely doesn't need to be guaranteed by copyright to begin with.
Most writers, painters, and musicians in history, WERE amateurs (and most of them still are), and only a select few could and can actually make a living from art. The point is, that creativity came first, and profitable art production is just a pleasant cherry on top of it for the most successful and professional ones. People first started to make hats, and then started to figure out ways to profit more and more from hats. The same with paintings, writings, and songs.
They are not comparable to, say, AAA video games, where first came copyright, and copyright-based industry, and then the genres as we know them got built sprecifically around this new chance of profitability.
albino boo said:
However in in eras before mass production the cost of materials and of production limited the availability of goods. I suggest you go to any musume and look at any art work done in the classical period and remember that those are products of people earning their living by creativity 1000s of years ago.
I don't have to go to a museum, because we have this wonderful thing called the Internet, that can create a copy of these paintings without costing anything to anyone.
