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paypuh said:
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Fox is a hell of a lot more reliable than CNN or CBS... don't be ridiculous. They are not even right wing. They are moderates, they just look like hard right because CNN and CBS are SOOOO liberal. If you want right wing go listen to Levin and Limbaugh, that is right wing. There is a very good reason why Fox now owns the ratings... They tell simple fact for the most part outside of the opinion based segments such as Hannity and Beck, but those are late night and off hours. But segments such as Greta Van Sustern, and the O'Reilly Factor are simply facts and logic, which a lot of people in this illiterate and horridly unintelligent society hate for the simple fact that they do not understand logic and without logic fact doesn?t make sense.
I hope that was a joke, cause you made me laugh. Every time I listen to Fox this is what I hear "Is Obama killing America?" "Obama is destroying America with socialism" "Obama is trying to brain wash our children with this new speech".

What ever happened to news channels, I don't know telling us the news? What is so fucking hard about giving us the facts and then letting us decide? Or if you must have a right wing news section and then have a left wing news section. Show both sides of the argument and please both parties if they must hear there propaganda.
So... then they do that. Is that a bad thing? I'm not saying that only Fox would need to do that, just a blanket statement of how every news station is bias. Just so happens that Fox is so blatant with it and much more extreme that it is like hitting me over the head with a baseball bat.
 

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Meh. I feel that if a Republican was in the White House, MSNBC'd be doing what Fox is doing. C'est la vie in cable news, and the main reason you should avoid cable news.
 

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axia777 said:
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CNN are untrustworthy.
How is CNN untrustworthy? What do they say that are lies?
Not necessarily lies, but they often don't tell the whole truth. The same with Fox news. I just think that Fox and CNN are often quite biased. Plus, I watch BBC because its British. British things are awesome. Scones, for example, are quite awesome.
 

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Is it bad for journalism if the fake news outlets are apparently more credible than the "proper" journalists? Bill O'Reilly responding to Jon Stewart is just a tad excessive.
 

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dkuch said:
So... then they do that. Is that a bad thing? I'm not saying that only Fox would need to do that, just a blanket statement of how every news station is bias. Just so happens that Fox is so blatant with it and much more extreme that it is like hitting me over the head with a baseball bat.
That's why we have multiple news outlets. If you don't like what one is reporting, you can watch a different one. Problem solved.
 

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hmmmm... yes. I totally understand what you mean. After all, it's not like the Democrats EVER tried to disrupt town hall (and other public forum meetings) to disturb Republicans during their tenure in Congress/the presidency. They sure as heck never supported it, condoned it, or in any way mentioned it when it happened in 2004.

OH BUT WAIT, I'm sorry, Nancy Pelosi DID support it, saying that it was part of the natural democratic process for people to voice their oppositions. And now when people do the same thing here, she's against it? What news organization is showing the double standard of Pelosi and the democrats BESIDES Fox News? Idk... show me!

Fox is ALL OVER the bush cheney incident, calling it an unprecedented move by a president against a former administration. Unless that was an attempt at sarcasm. To which I have to say I still disagree. All major news networks have covered it. The only difference, if any, in the coverage is that Fox News and CNN pointed out that Nancy Pelosi was shown the documents that approved the torture and voted in FAVOR of it. If she was lied to or misled, the CIA committed a felony. If she lied about the situation for political gain, that's also a felony (it's something about undermining a government agency or something).

Another thing. Many of the people who disrupted the town hall meetings were interviewed afterwards. Some of them voted for Obama, others were registered as, but otherwise not affiliated with, the Republican Party. Liberal and democrat organizations, such as ACORN, the DNC, and others, were the only major political entities that publicly and purposely bused people from hundreds of miles away to counter-protest. All other major protestors voicing opposition were from local affiliations, not state or national. It's fine for major political organizations to submit possible queries to local residents and political organization with questions for people to ask senators, or even for ideas on how to make a statement. What's wrong is for national and state political parties and leaders to get involved in local governmental procedings where they have no rational right to be, other than to make a political point.

Some of this is somewhat off topic, but again, when you only submit yourself to one side of the argument, your entire view point is skewed. Thus, I don't trust Fox News nor any other news organization but you're proving yourself ignorant for saying the things you have just said because, having watched plenty of news including fox, I can tell you that you're either bold face lying or you're talking shit out of your mouth because you have no idea what you're talking about. This is an example where you have to experience it to understand. If not experiencing Fox News, than at least experiencing independent study and research.

At any rate, since you're gonna tell me that you don't have to watch fox news to understand this and that I'm wrong without even barely considering my observations and ideas, I fear I may have just wasted ten minutes of writing. But maybe I'm wrong and you'll look up the "facts" of the protests from both conservative, liberal, and moderate sites and find out for yourself. I hope I am. Regardless, I feel as though I have to at least say the truth... it would be wrong for me not to.
Well a couple things, when i started this I was only questioning if they are a good news resource. I said no. Fox has not been all over bush/cheney. I think they mentioned it once if any. Even in your reply, they only used it to..... attack obama "Fox is ALL OVER the bush cheney incident, calling it an unprecedented move by a president against a former administration." Pretty much saying why did he do this, its dumb.

2. I didnt say republicans are bad or that the democrats arent just as currupt.
I dont know why you brought up Pelosi. Its not like i said she was awesome. OH and NBC showed the double standard. They were the first to get on her and her "story" of " i was mislead."

3. When i submit myself to one side its not skewed its called an opinion. When you look at both sides and make a desicion. its an opinion of what you think. What am i suppose to do. hhhhmmmmm your right and your right. agree with both piont of views. thats called not having an opinion.

4. I do look up facts i do watch fox, not religiously, but i do, i watche NBC. BBC, CNN, Daily Show, Colbert, as well as local news. That way when a story, that there all reporting comes in, I have more than one source.

5.Just because i not a fan of fox doesnt mean i love nbc, or cnn.

6. It hard to find a non bias news station fox or nbc. they only bring in people who can help prove their point.

"What's wrong is for national and state political parties and leaders to get involved in local governmental procedings where they have no rational right to be, other than to make a political point."

Usually when politicians get involved nobody wins. When a political point is made, it only helps their political party, not anyone else and how is that helpful. So is it right or wrong? you cant have it both ways.
 

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Fox News is billed as an American Conservative news station. Most U.S. Mainstream news agencies lean to the liberal left. Fox News also seems heavily biased towards their views and as such it is more important that they show their view of an event rather than objectively report on it. If you do a Google search you will find plenty of stories about people accusing Fox News of mis-stating to just plain making things up.

Now I am not saying that other news agencies don't do the same, but Fox seems to have more occurances than others.

My favorite was after one of the MTV awards shows where Sasha Baron Cohen was 'dropped' from the ceiling and landed on top of Eminem with his ass in Eminem's face. Fox was saying how tasteless that was and how things like that shouldn't be on TV, going on about how demeaning it was. A few days later Fox has women in scantily clad lingerie playing football on their news, with one of the reporters saying how that was one of the best segments they ever did.

Most conservatives think Fox News is great and wonderful, most liberals think it's garbage.
No, as a Conservative with many Conservative friends, we all think it's garbage.
 

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Fox News caused some guy I know (on-line) to have the SWAT form a no-knock raid on his house (even though he didn't really do anything). Google "Wayne Chiang."
if thats true thats some Sh**
 

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I think the only way to get the truth out of the news is to watch both sides, and whatever points they get the same, those must be the truth. It's worked so far for me.

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oppp7 said:
Feh, Fox is too right and CNN n NBC are too left. Watch the BBC if you want news...
Too true, too true. I don't see why everybody supports Obama the way they do. I actually think he hates America. Look at his background with Rev. Wright, the man who preaches "Death to America!" And the way Obama feels the need to apologize to the rest of the world, about how terrible America is.

He screwing up America.
I'm not entirely sure that Obama isn't an evil genius. I mean his presidential campaign was based around change, his WHOLE campaign was based around change, and he's alienated over half the country to the teetering edge of revolution. If Americans do rise up, they'll remove the government and institute a new one, getting back to the founding priciples. At that point, the man which the US called a "communist" and a man "seeking to destroy the country" would have to admit that he brought us back to our roots.

Or maybe he's actually an anarchist *shrug* who knows.
 

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I live in Canada so I don't ever watch Fox news. However, of the few times I have seen it while staying in the U.S, I find that they are way too biased for a "real" news station. It kind of gets boring/frustrating when they have long segments of their views (especially politics), and not so much reporting on everything else.

I don't pay much attention to politics or news so I don't really have a big hatred for news stations, however, there is one thing about Fox that irks me.

Mass Effect "sex scandal".

I'm a video gamer and I can safely say this was a terribly silly news segment. So much misinformation and false reporting. I've played through several hours of Mass Effect and never encountered any of the insanely stupid things that were reported on the show. The "sex" scenes? They were actually fairly mild and in some cases, more tame than what you can see on television prime time.

Perhaps it's not Fox's fault in that case, but it's still silly they went out of their way to get an interview up about this. Was there nothing else worth reporting on?

It was entertaining to watch though. I wonder if the same will happen to Mass Effect 2
 

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I was watching the news not, fox but clicking channels aimlessly when i stumble on Fox News. They were doing nostop coverage about how NBC and other news stations and how they must be "in bed" with the president becuase there is an apparent commercial that slams obama and his health care plan.

It seems stations like NBC and CNN wont showw the commercial and they went on and on and on and on and on about these stations. Not thinking they are also guilty of not showing aaaaaannnnnnything close to resembling anything goood or nice about Obama. Just alot of blah blah blah socailist, blah blah blah destroying america, blah blah blah America doesnt like him or his health care.

I was begining to wounder is Fox News a realiable News Station given when theyre not bashing obama or be stupid , they do actually report news. Some high speed chases, drug busts. Are they to be quoted or watched. How good do you think they are.


By the way the Daily Show and Colbert Report are freaking awesome.
Let me put it this way... a Pastor Jackson went on the O'Reily factor, claiming pro-gay marriage people "Hacked" his records and printed in a news paper where he lived, the date he registered to vote in DC, and many other things. O'Reily didn't even let him finish the last word of his sentance before jumping in and agreeing with him 100%. Now.. if O'Reily is as intelligent as he goes on about (Which he isn't, as he needs to bash john stewart, a comedy show joke news anchor every 5 days to make himself look intelligent and act as if john stewart is trying to be legit, but then gets DESTROYED by john stewart when he tries to bash john stewart face to face on O'Riley's segment of fox news...) He would know registered voters records are public domain and you can go to townhall, city hall, etc and look them up, or simply call them and ask the receptionist nicely to look who you want up for you. What O'Reily also failed to point out is... Jackson never once responded to the only place of residence the article printed that he registered he lived at in DC, which was a one room condo which was owned by someone else and could not be sold as it was part of a condminium. (sp?) or the fact he had registered to vote in DC that year's April 22nd. But, since Jackson was a man of god, O'Reily jumped through his hoop like a good far right doggy. (Don't get me wrong, I don't hate just far right, I hate ANY idiot who picks a side in this nation rather then thinks with his own brain.)

I will also add Fox News is the ONLY high grossing news program to outright jump to Jack Thompson's defense, unlike every other news program which not only gave both sides equal time, but stayed for the most part, out of the fucking debate between jack thompson and the representative of Rockstar Entertainment.

The ONLY time I have EVER had any respect for fox news, was when they quoted the bible and made that one church sect that protested soldiers funerals, claiming IEDs were god's punishment for our tolerance of gays, look like hypocritical shits (Which everyone knew they were, but fox news was the only network to quote the bible correctly to them to shut down their arguments) But this victory of theirs was two sided, as it also showed just how far right they were and how they obviously had biasm when it came to subjects like gay marriage and abortion.
 

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YurdleTheTurtle said:
I live in Canada so I don't ever watch Fox news. However, of the few times I have seen it while staying in the U.S, I find that they are way too biased for a "real" news station. It kind of gets boring/frustrating when they have long segments of their views (especially politics), and not so much reporting on everything else.

I don't pay much attention to politics or news so I don't really have a big hatred for news stations, however, there is one thing about Fox that irks me.

Mass Effect "sex scandal".

I'm a video gamer and I can safely say this was a terribly silly news segment. So much misinformation and false reporting. I've played through several hours of Mass Effect and never encountered any of the insanely stupid things that were reported on the show. The "sex" scenes? They were actually fairly mild and in some cases, more tame than what you can see on television prime time.

Perhaps it's not Fox's fault in that case, but it's still silly they went out of their way to get an interview up about this. Was there nothing else worth reporting on?

It was entertaining to watch though. I wonder if the same will happen to Mass Effect 2
You think THAT's hilarious?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaNFqd5eTX0
Watch Fox News tackle the scary subject... of.... EMOS!
 

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If he were a liar, which he's not, do you really think that he would be the number one cable news show for over 8 years? Do you really think that the American people are ignorant enough to tune in every night in record numbers to a liar? I don't think so but hey once again it's debate that makes this country great, not calling those who oppose your view point liars
First problem is you assume that people would not support a liar. Tell me how many people bought the "Weapons of Mass destruction" line about Iraq and supported Bush? And tell me, where exactly would most of his audience find out he is a liar? They buy the "liberal media" story so they wouldn't check "liberal" sites that report on his many lies and misrespresntations.

And as for him not being a liar;

* He made the claim that "lesbian gangs" were going around turning girls into lesbians and beating up men. Also they had "Pink Glocks." While I don't doubt there are at least a few lesbian gangs out there, and I'm sure at least one of them has beaten up a man, the story he was commenting on was nothing like how he potrayed it. And the idea of pink glocks is just laughable. Bill even admitted he exagaratted that report.
* Claimed that Nixon and Mao never met. Even though there is a photo of Nixon shaking Mao's hand. (For context they were talking about Bush's refusual to talk to the Iranian president whose name I won't attempt to spell even if they were in the same room.)
* When Marvin Kitman wrote his book on Bill he supported him up until the point where Marvin included a chapter on a sexual harrasment lawsuit against Bill. He even went out of his way to try and bury the book and harrassed other Fox shows into preventing them from interviewing Marvin. The kicker? The book cast Bill in a positive light.
* Biden (back before he was Vice-President) called for an independent investigation into the claims of torture and abuse at Guantanamo Bay and at other Military-run prisons. Bill took clips from that interview, but only showed the part about closing down Guantanamo. He then promptly took Biden's suggestion of making an independent commision to review all military-run prisons and presented it as his own idea.

So there you have it, I brought up four lies. And that's not even getting into his "debating" tactics of yelling over the top of the other guy and having their mics cut off.
 

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First off, who said anything about public healthcare? All I said was it wrong to go around and say sorry to another countries for when we just went over and got rid of a dicator.

Second, I never said he trying to ruin the country. Your just now putting words in my mouth. and third, we are already triple in debt thanks to his "simulates plans" which is a big backfire. And last, show me where Germany or any other people who did worst then us say sorry to the people they did bad things. Did Japan say sorry to China when they unlease their soldiers on them to rape,murder and or whatever to them? Did Japan say sorry to us for bombing Pearl harbor when we weren't in the war? (Not picking on Japan, just WW2 they did just as many bad things as Germany). We as Americans also did bad things, but saying sorry when we didn't do anything bad is just wrong.
"we are already triple in debt thanks to his "simulates plans" (hopefully meant to read: Our debt has tripled thanks to his sTimulous plans - which it has not). This is rather off. Much (if not most) of our 13-14 trillion dollar debt happened on Bush's watch after events of his planning such as the Iraq war which we're paying god knows how much for. And it didn't help that Bush LOWERED taxes to pay for all this, instead choosing to pay with borrowed money which of course has huge intrest rates there-in drastically raising our debt. And I would very much like to know where you got that "triple in debt" part, because that is nowhere near true.

Apologies, eh? Germany has payed about 33 Billion USD in reparations after World War 1 (copied from Wiki-Answers, lulz - I did it for them). Obviously not bringing back lives, but it's a nice gesture. And Japan didn't apologize for Pearl Harbour? How about the fact that Japan WARNED US about it. And seriously, after the good ol' US of A fucking NUKED Hiroshima and Nagasaki causing God knows how many casulaties, I don't think USA is in a position to talk.
 

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Uggh, well I watch it for humor, At least it isn't as bad as MSNBC, Christ...
 

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Colbert should be president. I would vote for him the first chance I got.
Also, Fox news has never been good. Ever.
Case closed.