Oddly enough, anti-female rhetoric long predates feminism. It's sorta the reason feminism exists.Smithnikov said:
Frat Made To Apologize Over Anti-Sexual Assault Banners
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Likely someone in administration. Prestigious colleges have a vested interest in appearing problem-free, so admitting there is a rape problem on your campus, even in solidarity, is verboten. It's the same kind of thinking that quietly suspends/expels victims of assault or rape while turning a blind eye to legacies or athletes with star potential.Barbas said:
Another day in the life of upset-about-everything LLC.
Acknowledging the problem, supporting the positive change... If you oppose that you are part of the problem regardless of your background or personal experience.
This "I got triggered so everyone has to grovel at my feet now" bullshit is really stifling progress in every way imaginable. If you can't handle support for your own cause you should consider committing yourself to an institution that provides daily psychiatric help and isolates you from the general population until you are fit to safely return to society. The world is not your safe space puppy cuddle room.
Acknowledging the problem, supporting the positive change... If you oppose that you are part of the problem regardless of your background or personal experience.
This "I got triggered so everyone has to grovel at my feet now" bullshit is really stifling progress in every way imaginable. If you can't handle support for your own cause you should consider committing yourself to an institution that provides daily psychiatric help and isolates you from the general population until you are fit to safely return to society. The world is not your safe space puppy cuddle room.
... I can't believe I had to read this with my own two eyes.Smithnikov said:
Switch out feminists, put in literally any other group. Next time a story about gamers being shitheads hits, I'mma roll up like 'Want to know why anti-gamer rhetoric gets traction?'.
No one group is a hivemind, and when you start thinking of them that way, you pretty much have nothing valuable to add.
OT: I love how the majority of this thread is- "Well we don't know what exactly happened BUT I'M OUTRAGED AND I BET IT WAS FEMINAZI PC CULTURE".
Often media speaking out against traumatic things such as this has the opposite effect on victims due to it making them feel as though their life will never be " normal" again because they are reminded that this is what happened to them everywhere they go. It is understandable to want to show support, but more frequently those affected by these things would rather forget that it happened at all. It feels like the perpetrator who did this to them took everything from them and every reminder of that makes it feel as if they took even more. Every reminder that this happened to them makes it feel like the rapist is taking more and more from them and will never stop.
Basically,
When you have this thrown in your face everywhere you turn, it makes you realize you will never just be normal again and never not be "rape girl". Constantly reminding people of what they want to forget does not help them move on. Just when you wake up and not think about being raped, you walk to class and see this giant reminder never letting you forget you are still just " rape girl" from now on and will never be just a "normal" person again. every time they see mention of it they are forced to relive what happened.
People overreacting to taking the sign down just makes it that much more difficult on actual rape victims. If they want to help, they need to find out what is actually needed to help and do that, not just hang giant signs everywhere. That isn't helping victims or prevent rape from happening at all.
Basically,
When you have this thrown in your face everywhere you turn, it makes you realize you will never just be normal again and never not be "rape girl". Constantly reminding people of what they want to forget does not help them move on. Just when you wake up and not think about being raped, you walk to class and see this giant reminder never letting you forget you are still just " rape girl" from now on and will never be just a "normal" person again. every time they see mention of it they are forced to relive what happened.
People overreacting to taking the sign down just makes it that much more difficult on actual rape victims. If they want to help, they need to find out what is actually needed to help and do that, not just hang giant signs everywhere. That isn't helping victims or prevent rape from happening at all.
Well, NAFALT is now considered a logical fallacy in the manisphere. Yes, it is now a fallacy to NOT assume that feminists are a hive mind.Phasmal said:
Do you have a different take on it? Info that we missed somewhere?
A different take? I guess. If you don't know what happened, don't get ahead of yourself with outrage. I'm still the kind of person who thinks people are generally reasonable. Perhaps it was an overreaction, perhaps a misunderstanding, perhaps. We don't have enough information about it.Smithnikov said:
Sometimes it feels to me that getting angry is a hobby for some.
I thought the info that was missed was:Smithnikov said:
1) Hanging giant signs does not help stop rape or help rape victims.
2) The frat hanging the sign has a history or rape, so those that were rape victims of those people now have a giant sign reminding them of that adding insult to injury.
3) Should rape victims be reminded they were raped everywhere they go or should they be allowed to heal and move on?
4) Did the frat actually try to research and coordinate with organizations that address this issue to see what they could do to help or just think hanging banners is helping?
5) People defending the sign rather than being concerned about how that sign actually affects rape victims speaks volumes of the actual concern on the issue here. If people were genuinely concerned with helping reduce rape and supporting rape victims they would be more concerned about how this actually affects rape victims and whether or not it reduces rape than taking a sign down to do so.
I'm sorry, this still comes off as "Damned if you Do; Damned if you Don't."Lil devils x said:
Also, as for the "Did they just think hanging a banner is helping", I could name scores of other PR stunts by SJW oriented college figures, and I wonder if they'd get the same reaction from you. How does holding a bake sale and forcing white male students, for example, to pay more promote the cause of equality, for example? It's par for the course.
I just don't see what's objectionable here.
Of course they get the same reaction, this is a problem with the way many things are handled poorly. It isn't like these guys invented how to handle things badly. LOLSmithnikov said:
I understand WHY they would want white males to pay more to make them understand the " woman" or "minority" tax. Since women and minorities pay more for most things, but a demonstration would be better than actually making them pay more. Like I said, they didn't "invent" bad ideas.
They do have a point to be made, they just made it badly.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/5-things-women-pay-more-for-than-men-2014-01-17
http://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/articles/2016-02-17/the-pink-tax-why-womens-products-often-cost-more
http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/10/why-do-my-haircuts-cost-more-because-im-black.html
Women and minorities actually DO pay more already is the point being made with charging more for one group. They were just trying to show how it feels to have that done to you.But treating them how they are treated isn't becoming equal, it would be expecting women and minorities to be treated the same as white men that would be equal instead. I see no point in treating others badly simply because you were treated badly. An eye for an eye is not always the best way to make these things change.