Friendly fire in Over Watch

[Baffle]

I think they should introduce it as a brawl option. I'd also like a brawl in which gravity is four times the norm so Genji can hammer space bar as much as he likes and just make tiny hops.

 

[Zydrate]

Makes sense in a hyper/semi-realistic game settings like Call of Duty or Rainbow Six but not in a Pixar/Team Fortress-esque game platform where the name of the game is just to have fun. Getting teamkilled by griefers does not sound fun.

 

[MHR]

It could work in some other games, but not Overwatch where you're encouraged to bunch up so closely and stand together for defense. Idiots would be shooting Rheinhardt's back all day.

 

[RedDeadFred]

I don't think that's a good idea. The game relies too heavily on your tanks standing in front of other teammates to soak up damage. That would be a lot tougher for them to do if they had to worry about getting shot in the back.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

That would be truly awful, mostly because most of the characters have projectile based weapons rather than hitscan, meaning teammate would largely be shot on accident because they stepped to the left 1/4 of a second after you fired.

Also the maps don't really work well for friendly fire because of all the choke points that force teams to clump up together.

The game just isn't designed for it, never has been.

As far as ultimates killing the user for some characters but not others, it's not based on logic, it's based on BALANCE.

D.Va's ultimate used to kill her and it was hot garbage because you couldn't drop it defensively or use it wherever you wanted to on the map, only in specific places were you could immediately find cover, making it really predictable and therefore basically useless.

 

[Elijin]

On the topic of toxicity, my personal experience is that it is a rarity. But, I play on console...
Unpopular opinion: I think PC games are more toxic than console games because you have a keyboard to type out hateful things that everyone can see, right there at your fingertips. XBL people cant even talk to the enemy team without going to extensive effort, and voice chat in team is minimal (in my experience).

D.Va's ultimate used to kill her and it was hot garbage because you couldn't drop it defensively or use it wherever you wanted to on the map, only in specific places were you could immediately find cover, making it really predictable and therefore basically useless.

So, the complaint here is that DVA being a victim of her own nuke means DVA cant solo a point, and has to use her ultimate in co-ordination with her team to get the best area denial value out of it? (like most other characters in the game)
Or has to use it with some actual thought, with a defensive use being a tactical trade, rather than a 'meh, my hp is empty, press ult.'
Even though she can boost nuke to fire it at prime locations without hitting this issue, so its just about picking the best time to use it?

Yeah, those sound like real burdens for DVA.

 

[Elijin]

Correction: We know that it was decided that it was fine if her strength was raised by shifting the balance in that area denial equation.

Its not 'literally a fact'. Its a decision made by their in house balancing team which I'm free to disagree with. I find it interesting certain heroes have to very very careful with their moves, and others can indiscriminately use them and completely control zones.

 

[Lufia Erim]

Overwatch is far too toxic as it is to allow that.

I've played dozens of online shooters over the last decade, and Overwatch has by far developed the largest and most disgusting collection of online harassers and general shit to allow the ability for team friendly fire.

Overwatch's community at least on PC doesn't seem as Toxic as other shooters. I haven't been called the N-word Yet. I do say yet.

Overwatch is far too toxic as it is to allow that.

I've played dozens of online shooters over the last decade, and Overwatch has by far developed the largest and most disgusting collection of online harassers and general shit to allow the ability for team friendly fire.

Yeah have to agree with the first guy. I've never run into much toxicity in OW. Level 150 now so not playing too much but enough to get a sense of the community. Only once I ran into someone who was somewhat toxic, but wasn't to the point of even dropping N or F bombs.

I'm happy for you both, I really am, but my girlfriend has considered not playing numerous times because of people sexually harassing her literally almost every time someone hears her voice. I guess it just happens to be the people were matched with constantly, but I can't remember the last time I played a match where at least one person didn't call someone a fag or other explicit names and then proceed to troll the whole match.

Has she tried not using a mic? That kind of helps you know. While the situation is unfortunate for her, one of the simplest solutions is to not wear a mic rather than just not playing the game.

 

[DeliveryGodNoah_v1legacy]

Has she tried not using a mic? That kind of helps you know. While the situation is unfortunate for her, one of the simplest solutions is to not wear a mic rather than just not playing the game.

...you're not sincere, are you? Have you played Overwatch? Communication is almost key in this game.

Of course if she tried not using her mic it would partially alleviate the problem, but that's not a reasonable solution.

 

[Lightspeaker]

On the subject of 'toxicity': Honestly I'm baffled at the comments in this thread. I've played a fair bit of Overwatch and have never heard anything like the level of toxicity being claimed in here. Directed at male or female voices over the mic. There's usually the odd abusive person about, but nowhere near a constant stream of it.


As for the OP: No. Absolutely not. The game is not designed around allowing for Friendly Fire. Its a terrible idea that would totally screw up balance.

Also the fact that last night I ran into someone who, as Symmetra, set up their teleporter on the edge of a cliff to make the team go through and fall off the edge...yeah I don't want THAT sort of person to be able to Friendly Fire.

 

[Lufia Erim]

Has she tried not using a mic? That kind of helps you know. While the situation is unfortunate for her, one of the simplest solutions is to not wear a mic rather than just not playing the game.

...you're not sincere, are you? Have you played Overwatch? Communication is almost key in this game.

Of course if she tried not using her mic it would partially alleviate the problem, but that's not a reasonable solution.

Is communication usefull? Yes. Is it necessary? No. Tons of people play without mics. Unless she is super hardcore into the game ( which if she was she'd probably already have a static group of people to play with) she doesn't NEED a mic.

Of course that doesn't excuse the behavior of the people annoying her, but if i have the choice between being BM'd by randoms or playing without a mic, well I'm going to choose to play without a mic.

 

[DeliveryGodNoah_v1legacy]

Has she tried not using a mic? That kind of helps you know. While the situation is unfortunate for her, one of the simplest solutions is to not wear a mic rather than just not playing the game.

...you're not sincere, are you? Have you played Overwatch? Communication is almost key in this game.

Of course if she tried not using her mic it would partially alleviate the problem, but that's not a reasonable solution.

Is communication usefull? Yes. Is it necessary? No. Tons of people play without mics. Unless she is super hardcore into the game ( which if she was she'd probably already have a static group of people to play with) she doesn't NEED a mic.

Of course that doesn't excuse the behavior of the people annoying her, but if i have the choice between being BM'd by randoms or playing without a mic, well I'm going to choose to play without a mic.

You're not objectively wrong. Of course if she didn't use her mic the issue would be "solved", but I'm baffled you'd suggest such an obvious and insensate solution.

 

[Lufia Erim]

Has she tried not using a mic? That kind of helps you know. While the situation is unfortunate for her, one of the simplest solutions is to not wear a mic rather than just not playing the game.

...you're not sincere, are you? Have you played Overwatch? Communication is almost key in this game.

Of course if she tried not using her mic it would partially alleviate the problem, but that's not a reasonable solution.

Is communication usefull? Yes. Is it necessary? No. Tons of people play without mics. Unless she is super hardcore into the game ( which if she was she'd probably already have a static group of people to play with) she doesn't NEED a mic.

Of course that doesn't excuse the behavior of the people annoying her, but if i have the choice between being BM'd by randoms or playing without a mic, well I'm going to choose to play without a mic.

You're not objectively wrong. Of course if she didn't use her mic the issue would be "solved", but I'm baffled you'd suggest such an obvious and insensate solution.

Well only because in your original post you said she " has considered not playing numerous times because of people sexually harassing her literally almost every time someone hears her voice."

Honestly, i cannot believe people would not play a game they bought and enjoy because of a problem that is easily solved.

But hey at least i didn't say she should grow thicker skin lol.