Frostbite 2 engine and Dragon Age 3

[Tigerlily Warrior]

****09/18/2012 THANKS FOR EVERYONE WHO RESPONDED! I've learned a lot, you guys are great!****


Frostbite is an EA gaming engine used for FPS games like the Battlefield series. Only one 3rd person shooter has been created on this engine, the Army of Two sequel (out in 2013). I have NO experience with Battlefield or AoT.

Is this a good thing for DA3 or something to be concerned about?

EA has been moving Bioware further away from their RPG origins and with what happened with ME3, I'm worried this is another nail in the coffin of the Bioware I knew and loved.

Would love to hear your thoughts...

 

[Fappy]

All I know is that it is supposed to be really pretty. The DA franchise could use a face-lift imo.

 

[SajuukKhar]

DA2 gives me concern over how DA3 will be, because DA2 just blew all around, but ME3? it just had a shitty ending, the entire rest of the game was fucking fun, and if the entire rest of the game is fun, I don't really care if the ending blows.

RPGs should be more about the journey, not the destination.

 

[Tigerlily Warrior]

So does this mean DA3 will be a FPS? Anyone??

 

[Random Argument Man]

So does this mean DA3 will be a FPS? Anyone??

Did you seriously asked this question or are you just trolling?

 

[oZode]

So does this mean DA3 will be a FPS? Anyone??

Totally.

Expect epic MP with loads of perks and unlocks.

Campaign will be five hours, one hour spent romancing any member of your squad you choose.

 

[Phlakes]

Frostbite 2 isn't an FPS engine. It was made for Battlefield 3, yeah, but what Bioware will be using from it has nothing to do with gameplay.

 

[Marik2]

So does this mean DA3 will be a FPS? Anyone??

Did you seriously asked this question or are you just trolling?

With EA that might be plausible

 

[Random Argument Man]

So does this mean DA3 will be a FPS? Anyone??

Did you seriously asked this question or are you just trolling?

With EA that might be plausible

I hate to pull this on you guys, but....


Using a graphics engine does not mean that gameplay changes. It should only look pretty. Mass Effect kept using the Unreal 3 engine. I don't see much people complaining about that.

 

[DrunkenMonkey]

I wonder if they are going with the old DA art style or something completely new, since it's a brand new engine.

 

[INVALIDUSERNAME]

I'm excited for Frostbite 2. Between part 1 having low-poly low-res texture models, and part 2 going for this pseudo-stylized realism look that fell flat on its ass, I'm glad they're going balls to the wall with what will hopefully be full on photorealistic fantasy like they tried going for in the original.

Not brown and grey mind you; I hope it's nice and colorful since Orlais is a city of vivid colors, perfumes, and festooned splendor, but photorealistic in the sense that things just look organic instead of the stylization they tried throwing in with part 2.

Also, l2engines. Just because an FPS uses an engine doesn't mean this game'll be an FPS.

Even if EA's track record begs to differ.

 

[aguspal]

So does this mean DA3 will be a FPS? Anyone??

Totally.

Expect epic MP with loads of perks and unlocks.

Campaign will be five hours, one hour spent romancing any member of your squad you choose.

That actually does sound interesting to me!

No, really. Then again its partially because of my bias, but still.


ANYWAYS, I like this change. Maybe I will finally like a Dragon AGE game then!

 

[oZode]

So does this mean DA3 will be a FPS? Anyone??

Totally.

Expect epic MP with loads of perks and unlocks.

Campaign will be five hours, one hour spent romancing any member of your squad you choose.

That actually does sound interesting to me!

No, really. Then again its partially because of my bias, but still.


ANYWAYS, I like this change. Maybe I will finally like a Dragon AGE game then!

Yeah. EA is really pulling out all the big guns on this one.

They also have lots of DLC planned, half of it day one DLC so you don't have to wait for more DLC.

 

[Joccaren]

So does this mean DA3 will be a FPS? Anyone??

No.
The New C&C game - an RTS - is also being made on Frostbite 2, leading me to believe it is a flexible engine.

What this means is that DA3 SHOULD look great, provided Bioware put effort into the PC version's graphics.
Personally, I'm not sure what the gameplay will be like, but I'm hoping its not DA2 style. If it is... I'll probably skip on purchasing it. That combat was bleh.

 

[sammysoso]

The engine has nothing to do with what type of game is being created. Look at how many different kinds of games are made with Unreal.

Frostbite 2 hasn't been around long enough for multiple games to be made on it (Given that it's EA's proprietary engine will further limit the amount of people with access to it). So far, there's been an FPS (Battlefield 3)and a racing (Need for Speed) game made with it. Army of Two (3rd Person) is in development.

 

[aguspal]

So does this mean DA3 will be a FPS? Anyone??

Totally.

Expect epic MP with loads of perks and unlocks.

Campaign will be five hours, one hour spent romancing any member of your squad you choose.

That actually does sound interesting to me!

No, really. Then again its partially because of my bias, but still.


ANYWAYS, I like this change. Maybe I will finally like a Dragon AGE game then!

Yeah. EA is really pulling out all the big guns on this one.

They also have lots of DLC planned, half of it day one DLC so you don't have to wait for more DLC.

I am indifferent to DLC. It dosnt bothers me personally. But sometimes its just NOT worth it. Depends on the game...


Um, a question for you, Dragon Age fans. Does DA 1 and 2 have any kind of relation at all, or the series has nothing to do with each other (Like, say, Final Fantasy?).

If the latter, then I am willing to give this series a second chance. If the former... Well I dont give a crap about Story/Characters so I will see.

 

[Ruedyn]

I actually liked DA2, it just felt too rushed for me. If they're taking their sweet ass time with this, it'll probably be as good if not better than DA:O.

As for them using that engine, doesn't bother me. It looked okay, there was just too much texture pop in. Hopefully Bioware fixed it.

 

[Hawkeye 131]

I should propably make it known that although I am a MASSIVE fan of both BioWare and Mass Effect 1 $ 2 (not 3), I have never played the Dragon Age games. That being said I regularly play Battlefield 3 which uses the Frostbite 2 engine so I have a basic understanding of what to expect in terms of graphics with that engine.

As you pointed out EA has been getting it's money's worth out of Frostbite that's for sure;
- Battlefield 3
- Need for Speed: The Run
- Medal of Honor: Warfighter
- Army of Two: The Devil's Cartel
- Command & Conquer: Generals 2
- Battlefield 4
- Dragon Age 3: Inquisition

I myself would be more concerned with the developers of DA3 using the Frostbite 2 engine than the engine itself. BioWare as a whole is on thin ice, after the mediocre response to DA2, the shaky future of SW:ToR and the critical response to ME3. BioWare should tread VERY carefully in the coming future.

As for the Frostbite 2 engine all things being equal (which is a long shot), you can expect a from a graphical perspective a very impressive looking game even on consoles. Like so many video game engines Frostbite has/is/will and most likely always be updated, improved and advanced as the technology behind it does the samething. Also (don't qoute me on this because I'm not sure), I recall reading an article regarding how EA had recently opened an entire studio solely dedicated to explotation of the Frostbite 2 engine. On top of that, now various studios are all using the same engine therefore, each studio probably has multiple engineers, programmers and software developers who will be making their own changes to how the engine works. Lastly in a recent GameInformer article one of the developers working on the new Army of Two game said that the ALL developers themselves have an entire forum solely dedicated to the Frostbite 2 engine where they can discuss, question and comment on every single aspect of that engine.

All that said I think at the very least Dragon Age 3 should look very impressive.

-Hawk

 

[Mike Richards]

Last I heard they were making an engine, I hadn't heard anything about Frostbite being involved. Maybe they just meant modding that.

Anyways, it's a good piece of software but it's what they do with it that matters. I'm really looking forward to seeing what they're working on, as far as I'm concerned Bioware hasn't fallen an inch.

The Extended Cut was the best possible set of endings I can imagine Mass Effect having.