"Frumpy Mom" Says Videogames Made by the Devil
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Hold on guys.
This mother is genuinely concerned about her son's education. And rightly so. Instead of bashing her, we as a gaming community should help her so she can educate her kid. She doesn't understand the diversity of games. Or how she has good reason to forbid some games for her young children, but not others. Or how games don't dumb down the senses, but instead stimulate them.
Help people like her understand how rich the medium is. And educate them about game ratings.
This mother is genuinely concerned about her son's education. And rightly so. Instead of bashing her, we as a gaming community should help her so she can educate her kid. She doesn't understand the diversity of games. Or how she has good reason to forbid some games for her young children, but not others. Or how games don't dumb down the senses, but instead stimulate them.
Help people like her understand how rich the medium is. And educate them about game ratings.
This is nothing new. As initially shocking as Tipper Gore/Joe Leiberman/James Dobson's attack on media was to me a decade and a half ago, it does not match the furor with which the fundamentalist-est of the fundamentalists go after entertainment. In the 80's, my parents attended seminars where they were told that Star Trek and He-Man were of the devil (quite literally) and Cabbage-patch Kids' middle names came from demons from Hell.
"I'll let that sink in." --Bill Hicks
More recently, I've heard the same thing about Harry Potter. It's particularly amusing when these crazies go after (what currently passes for a mainstream) musician. They're all like, "This music was designed by the devil to brainwash our kids," and I'm all like, "No guys, it's actually legitimately harmful. It's sexualizing tweens and atrophying their brains."
I can't recall the guy's name, but a Harlem preacher went after Obama in a big way last year, saying all sorts of off-the-wall things about him and about black people in general (ironically, the guy is black). He said godawful things and never once voiced one of the (numerous) legitimate causes for trepidation (inexperience, possible shady ties), and he always ended it by saying that he was the mouthpiece of God, in an attempt to buffer both himself and his ludicrous statements from scrutiny. I'll try to source it when I'm feeling less lazy. It was the funniest shit I heard all year.
"I'll let that sink in." --Bill Hicks
More recently, I've heard the same thing about Harry Potter. It's particularly amusing when these crazies go after (what currently passes for a mainstream) musician. They're all like, "This music was designed by the devil to brainwash our kids," and I'm all like, "No guys, it's actually legitimately harmful. It's sexualizing tweens and atrophying their brains."
I can't recall the guy's name, but a Harlem preacher went after Obama in a big way last year, saying all sorts of off-the-wall things about him and about black people in general (ironically, the guy is black). He said godawful things and never once voiced one of the (numerous) legitimate causes for trepidation (inexperience, possible shady ties), and he always ended it by saying that he was the mouthpiece of God, in an attempt to buffer both himself and his ludicrous statements from scrutiny. I'll try to source it when I'm feeling less lazy. It was the funniest shit I heard all year.
All Right, I'm gonna pick this "Frumpy Mom's" argument to pieces, she asked for it! It's going to be long, brew some coffee and sit down, or just tl;dr.
If Sir Issac Newton was a gamer he would base his theory of gravity on Valve's Physics engine, and derive calculus from... somewhere? (Help me out guys!) And please don't write childhood myth about gravity as factual context on the concept of gravity.
New York Liberty City by criminals, I will be glad to know how to hijack my Car because I dropped the keys running away.
I have friends who play Left 4 Dead and enjoy playing Football (Soccer to Americans) and Friends who Frequent the Hockey Field (Because it's hard to play Ice Hockey in the Australian outback) as much as they frequent Xbox Live, We are fit, healthy, active gamers, and my skin is ALWAYS Mocha thank you very much.
The fact that you had to link to wikipedia from Satan's page, and how you only reference that Gaming is made by the Devil ONCE shows that you may not think gaming is evil, just want to express your opinion as fact on a blog, that's real original, or maybe just stupid!
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Wake up Guys, I'm Done!
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Perhaps because you're the only household without video games, being an outcast is a really good reason to be irritable. Freakish alien...
Let me guess, swimming pools cause sunburns that are really irritable and cause children to sacrafice the family dog to satan, oh and cause cancer. Also when did kids ever like Kraft snacks, and what the hell are Pizza nuggets? Back on target...
So you hear a story on the news, ONE of the millions of gamers has a problem with gaming, gets addicted and therefor gaming is EVIL, I did not know One in a million odds were definitive factual statistics, I guess Mathmatics has lied to me. And I'm supposed to belive all my hours logged on Call of Duty will make me eat puppies.
Grand Theft Auto, a socially concious educational game? Please do some more research lady, if GTA can be considered wholesome, then Brain Training can be considered a gritty realisation of the trials and tribulations of numbers and letters. and I was not keeping track of my points in GTA 4 to be honest, killed a civilian +100 points! Watched Television for 12 hours +50 points, HIGH SCORE!
Nintendo DS related injuries because children don't watch were they're going, serious buisness. If the child left to library playing a DS, he could have just finished some serious study or one hellova assignment, what wrong with burning some stress with a game?
If kids are expected to find the cure for cancer, then alot of people are going to be seriously dissapointed. Kids are supposed to have fun, not discuss Philosophy. Maybe the cure for cancer lies in the electrons flowing through the circuits of their DS.
If Sir Issac Newton was a gamer he would base his theory of gravity on Valve's Physics engine, and derive calculus from... somewhere? (Help me out guys!) And please don't write childhood myth about gravity as factual context on the concept of gravity.
When I'm chased down the streets of
I have friends who play Left 4 Dead and enjoy playing Football (Soccer to Americans) and Friends who Frequent the Hockey Field (Because it's hard to play Ice Hockey in the Australian outback) as much as they frequent Xbox Live, We are fit, healthy, active gamers, and my skin is ALWAYS Mocha thank you very much.
The fact that you had to link to wikipedia from Satan's page, and how you only reference that Gaming is made by the Devil ONCE shows that you may not think gaming is evil, just want to express your opinion as fact on a blog, that's real original, or maybe just stupid!
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Videogames do have problems with them, but I love how every uneducated idiot who thinks they know games reach straight for GTA EVERY TIME, GTA is tame compared to some of the shit I've seen
Dear 4chan please spam her inbox with this picture... it would make me VERY happy :3Freebird95 said:
I bet he's irritable because he enjoys himself and becomes resentful she directly forbids them. Like any "forbidden fruit", he takes all he can get when he get. While zombifying out in a dark room is regretable, I wonder if it's not a reaction because it's so rigidly enforced.
I recall rumors that when gamers in Asia were starving themselves because they were unable to stop playing, it could have been an addictive reaction because their culture was so restrictive they had nothing else to get attached to. Getting "hooked" may have been completely new to them. I don't know how much of it holds water, but here we have a child with a mother applying a religious context and failings of the minority against it. It's safe to assume she applies this logic and equally stern principles against other outlets.
I recall rumors that when gamers in Asia were starving themselves because they were unable to stop playing, it could have been an addictive reaction because their culture was so restrictive they had nothing else to get attached to. Getting "hooked" may have been completely new to them. I don't know how much of it holds water, but here we have a child with a mother applying a religious context and failings of the minority against it. It's safe to assume she applies this logic and equally stern principles against other outlets.
I cant seem to get this around my head.This is about as bad as that mom who said that demons made her duaghter gay
Guess she's never heard of educational games before, shame. I try to be more open-minded about religion >_>Freebird95 said:Is that her son in the picture, because he's playing Mario Kart.
Maybe if he was playing this.
Dated 2 weeks before the beginning of her crusade against games:Greg Tito said:
http://themomblog.freedomblogging.com/2009/11/09/beer-pong-anyone/37285/
Preach it, sister!Frumpy Mom said:
the sad thing is, if she got a console, hers would probably be the kids that never show up in the news because she would have them well centered and cut them off from games at the right times. Reading that article actually made my brain hurt. She got scared a kids came out of a library? holding a ds? the horror... the horror.
I didn't even know kids went to the library anymore.. if they come out from reading and decide to fire up the DS to avoid eye contact with the Frumpy Whale outside, maybe she should thank the kid for using the library, not feel her ovaries fall out for seeing a kid playing a DS.
I didn't even know kids went to the library anymore.. if they come out from reading and decide to fire up the DS to avoid eye contact with the Frumpy Whale outside, maybe she should thank the kid for using the library, not feel her ovaries fall out for seeing a kid playing a DS.
Judge not, lest thee be judged, or however the line goes.
She's not even a preist, let alone any sort of clergy qualified to determine things that are satanic.
Anyway, if her son doesn't do well with games, then maybe he's one of those people who shouldn't be playing them. She is his mother, after all, and if he indeed doesn't feel right, then he doesn't need to force himself into certain games or game genres. I don't like her "games are made by Satan" attitide, and the fact that she'd generalize Wii in with anything made by Rockstar, but at least, praise the lord, she's not going to be one of those ridiculous parents who lets her young child play Grand Theft Auto.
She's not even a preist, let alone any sort of clergy qualified to determine things that are satanic.
Anyway, if her son doesn't do well with games, then maybe he's one of those people who shouldn't be playing them. She is his mother, after all, and if he indeed doesn't feel right, then he doesn't need to force himself into certain games or game genres. I don't like her "games are made by Satan" attitide, and the fact that she'd generalize Wii in with anything made by Rockstar, but at least, praise the lord, she's not going to be one of those ridiculous parents who lets her young child play Grand Theft Auto.
Oh, is that so? Did you ever consider, I don't know, not letting him play games then, Miss Fisher? Just because video games had a bad effect on your son doesn't mean they'll have a bad effect on everybody. And this is just assuming that your son's irritable because you let him play games, not because you're a shitty parent!Greg Tito said:
Really, Miss Fisher? If that scarred you for life, then I've got an imageboard you simply must see. Besides, it's a free country. Kids can choose to go to the library or play games in their free time. Don't pull a Jack Thompson on us just because you'd prefer the former.Greg Tito said:
That's a logical fallacy. Specifically, a strawman.Greg Tito said:
Miss Fisher, if you're reading this, understand the following: you CAN NOT prove that playing video games is inherently bad for one's mental or physical health. Studies have been made, and doctors have been consulted, and you haven't been proven right yet. Until you have, mind your own damn business.
