Are you kidding me? Having some guy feel up my partner is not a sacrifice I, or her are willing to make just to get on a plane. More to the point no-one should ahve to choose between sexual harrasment and travel. Like Xiorel said some guy wants to cop a feel he'll get her breaking his nose then me breaking his fucking spine. Even worse if they want to search you and you decline and choose to leave that puts you under even more suspiscion, you can't even just fucking /leave/ if you don't want someone feeling you up.brainless_fps_player said:
Full body scans and pat downs: Do they cross the line?
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O__O....*Swallows my 1000th Post C4 Explosives I was planning to set off in Celebration*Dango said:
MWahahahaha You make one wrong pat and it's Kabloohey!!
Okay, relax. They don't get men to search women. Also, the rules against sexual harassment in this area are extremely strict, like teachers and paedophiles. If they even thought about suspecting a 'searcher' of feeling up customers, he/she'd be gone. And a full body scan wouldn't even require touching, if they went that far.Seitou said:
As far as I'm concerned, If you refuse a search, you shouldn't be allowed on the plane. If you care that much about being touched by other people, you shouldn't even leave your own house, in case you sue someone who bumps into you in the street.
And really? You'd really rather it was easier for extremists to take over your plane with a concealed weapon than have someone search your partner in privacy? Even if they did feel her up, you'd probably make a killing with a lawsuit. or at least get the flight for free.
With the part about not being allowed on the plane I agree...sort of, but it doesn't work like that, you don't just get to not fly. If you refuse the search suddenly you're under a shitload more suspicion even if it was just to avoid being patted down by a stranger. Oh yeah, what with the fact that body searches are the only way of finding drugs, explosives and weapons, oh right i nearly forgot about the dogs, xrays, chemical scanners and bag checks! And I know the point you're trying to make but the difference between bumping into someone and getting patted down is astronimacally different. It's like comparing someon putting a hand on your shoulder and cupping your ass, not even the same sort of game, let alone the same ballpark.brainless_fps_player said:
Finally, fuck the lawsuit if they feel her up I don't want their money I want the guys fucking spinal column :/ ... okay that might be a bit far but you get my point. >.>
I might just have come up with a terrible idea, but wouldn't it just be easier for a terrorist to strap explosives to themselves, then deploy themselves in the security check line? You'd kill a ton of people and you wouldn't have to worry about security. This is why the body scans aren't necessary, there's a lot of ways that terrorists can still hurt you by completely bypassing any security feature.
As for trafficking drugs, I quote Johnny Depp's character in Blow: "All I did was move a plant/chemical across an imaginary line."
As for trafficking drugs, I quote Johnny Depp's character in Blow: "All I did was move a plant/chemical across an imaginary line."
There's always the alternative
But seriously I think if a terrorist has managed to get to the airport in the first place, everything else hasn't been working properly. It's not like they can't say detonate the bomb in another crowded place in your country or even say the line to get checked.
But seriously I think if a terrorist has managed to get to the airport in the first place, everything else hasn't been working properly. It's not like they can't say detonate the bomb in another crowded place in your country or even say the line to get checked.
This, basically.LifeCharacter said:
As for patdowns, well, the person should be given an option. Go into a back room and strip off, or get a patdown. Problem solved
Edit: Sou Malatu Ixtaxh Muthsera... - Whether or not being a Morrowind fan means you can read their languages ought be seen
I'm not opposed to the full body scan personally, but the frisking goes too far. There's keeping America safe and then there's bad touch.Saucycardog said:
Well then, by all means, bend over and take it. *puts on rubber glove* I'm sure you're in favour of full anal searches, right? Anything for relative security.brainless_fps_player said:
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Ben Franklin knew what he was talking about, life's risky, deal with it.
I dont think its that bad, sure they'll scan you which is perfectly fine, it's just a more advanced version of the metal detector, and then if you appear to be carrying anything suspicious just call a guard of the same sex to pat the person down, there done. I quite often get patted down when I go through metal detectors due to my belt, I've got no problem with it, if it helps keep the place safe I dont mind.
Look, my point is it's not too far. I don't care how they search, as long as my flight is as safe as possible. There will probably be a way to cheat any search, but how stupid would you feel if it turned out the terrorist had been hiding explosives in his underpants, and had been allowed to bypass the search by claiming his rights were in violation. I really wouldn't have a problem with my girlfriend being taken to a private room and being searched by a female member of security. If it turned out she was groped by a lesbian, I wouldn't want her spinal column, but I would like her to lose her job. I just don't see your issue with being searched. Are you incapable of being touched in the crotch without feeling violated?Seitou said:
the terrorists have already won...
why can't 4chan/Anonymous/whoever the hell those whiny babies about copyright are do something about this?
if they can attack the US government, why not divert their power into tracking down Osama Bin Laden or something like that?
seriously, then we can fucking relax a little at the airports!
why can't 4chan/Anonymous/whoever the hell those whiny babies about copyright are do something about this?
if they can attack the US government, why not divert their power into tracking down Osama Bin Laden or something like that?
seriously, then we can fucking relax a little at the airports!
Either you are misquoting him or Ben Franklin is a moron. What liberty are you talking about? The right to hide things on your person? The right to not be touched? There has to be give and take. The airline can accept your right to not be searched, but you should then recognise their right to not put their customers at risk by putting you on their flight.Blind Sight said:
I'm certain Franklin would submit himself to a search if he thought it made the flight safer.
