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Those sources yet again:

"50+ Venezuelans Imprisoned in El Salvador Came to US Legally, Never Violated Immigration Law".


& from the fifth amendment;

"No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law".


So yes, it is true.
None of that makes them legal temporary residents / legal residents
 

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None of that makes them legal temporary residents / legal residents
Let's take this slowly.

If someone applies to enter a country, and that country gives them permission to enter, are they allowed to enter and then be in that country?
 

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Again, they are not legal temporary residents / legal residents.
OK, I see you're not going to answer the question. Let's try another way.

I assume that when you say they "are not legal temporary residents", you do not mean they weren't allowed to be there, because we've all seen the source showing that dozens of them were given official permission to enter. I assume you're referring instead to a specific set of statuses that is often referred to as "temporary residents" or "nonimmigrants", including temporary visa holders, refugees, or TPS recipients. Is that right?

Of course, that definition doesn't cover everyone who is legally temporarily allowed to reside. I was using "temporary legal resident" to refer to people who are temporarily, legally allowed to reside. That includes asylum seekers, parolees, etc, with official permission to be there.

Let's look at their statuses in detail.
1 - Temporary visa holder.
3 - Granted refugee status.
24 - Arrived legally via CBP One, were paroled into USA by authorities.
21 - Arrived legally via CBP One, were detained at point of entry.

The first two groups there are pretty universally considered legal residents. The 24 who were parolled into the USA do not yet have a visa or asylee status, but they are legally allowed to reside temporarily, so i was including them. So i suppose the question is, Which groups are you seeking to exclude? All, even valid visa holders?

And my last question, is why do you think its acceptable to incarcerate people who have committed no infraction, even if they haven't yet received a visa? You've quibbled about legal status so far, to try to argue the US is permitted to punish people who break no law. But why is it ok, in your view, to indefinitely punish people who have not broken any rule of the land? Why would people travel to the US, if they're liable for severe punishment even if they follow the rules?
 
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Charlie Kirk saying the quiet part out loud, and confirming that even legal immigration is a problem to those with his mindset. To quote:

" The lesson from New York City is that BOTH illegal and legal immigration can ruin your country. It’s not just the open border, it’s also our suicidal mass LEGAL migration policies bringing in over 1 million people a year: green cards, chain migration, refugee resettlement, anchor babies, and asylum scams. This all needs to be ended."
 

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Charlie Kirk saying the quiet part out loud, and confirming that even legal immigration is a problem to those with his mindset. To quote:

" The lesson from New York City is that BOTH illegal and legal immigration can ruin your country. It’s not just the open border, it’s also our suicidal mass LEGAL migration policies bringing in over 1 million people a year: green cards, chain migration, refugee resettlement, anchor babies, and asylum scams. This all needs to be ended."
Maybe bringing in people by slave ship is more up its alley
 

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Charlie Kirk saying the quiet part out loud, and confirming that even legal immigration is a problem to those with his mindset. To quote:

" The lesson from New York City is that BOTH illegal and legal immigration can ruin your country. It’s not just the open border, it’s also our suicidal mass LEGAL migration policies bringing in over 1 million people a year: green cards, chain migration, refugee resettlement, anchor babies, and asylum scams. This all needs to be ended."
Ineed.

The US right has long been moving towards the idea that non-whites undermine the racial and cultural strength of the USA. If Trump has done anything, it's embolden them to speak their mind.

Of course, I say "moving towards", but a chunk of them were always there. What I more mean is that the modern form of white nationalism has originated from a slightly different direction.