Furry Morality Question

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UmJammerSully

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theemporer said:
Ftaghn To You Too said:
And so the fursecution complex becomes even more extreme.

Yes, everyone has a right to their own sexual preferences and fetishes. I have fetishes that people think is freakish and weird, but I never mention it unless it is absolutely necissry to the conversation. Why? Because people don't want to know.

OT: I'd have to debate taking it. Progress and SCIENCE(!!!) and all that.
Its not a fetish, it's an interest (that some take sexually)

OT: Arf, arf!
Slightly off topic but I would argue that this:



And this:



Aren't quite the same thing yet both are called furry. I think the latter (furry art) is almost entirely sexual (I intentionally chose a google image that wouldn't get me banned...) with the former far less so.

Aaaaaanyway, if there was some way for the drug to be so cheap that almost everyone in the world could afford it then it would be an easy yes for me. Otherwise, it's hard to say.
 

Seanfall

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shameduser said:
Seanfall said:
I'd do it. You get smarter, stronger, faster, PLUS a nice warm fur coat for winter? Yes. summer would suck (more) though. would it just give slight animal features, or full on reverse ankle type stuff. That would probably determine how much of it you take though..Hmmm.
Am I the only one who thinks that maintaining a fur coat would be massive pain? It would take for fucking ever to clean it. What you get motor oil on your self? Or gum? You'd have to shave it off.
True. But fur = less power for heating the house, fewer sunburns, think of all the products for it though! Fur dye's tribal paint. The possibilities are numerous. Plus we'd finally know how animals feel when their owners put clothes on em.
 

Seanfall

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UmJammerSully said:
theemporer said:
Ftaghn To You Too said:
And so the fursecution complex becomes even more extreme.

Yes, everyone has a right to their own sexual preferences and fetishes. I have fetishes that people think is freakish and weird, but I never mention it unless it is absolutely necissry to the conversation. Why? Because people don't want to know.

OT: I'd have to debate taking it. Progress and SCIENCE(!!!) and all that.
Its not a fetish, it's an interest (that some take sexually)

OT: Arf, arf!
Slightly off topic but I would argue that this:



And this:



Aren't quite the same thing yet both are called furry. I think the latter (furry art) is almost entirely sexual (I intentionally chose a google image that wouldn't get me banned...) with the former far less so.

Aaaaaanyway, if there was some way for the drug to be so cheap that almost everyone in the world could afford it then it would be an easy yes for me. Otherwise, it's hard to say.
That stormtrooper looks like he's about to go off.
 

Doclector

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Seanfall said:
UmJammerSully said:
Slightly off topic but I would argue that this:



And this:



Aren't quite the same thing yet both are called furry. I think the latter (furry art) is almost entirely sexual (I intentionally chose a google image that wouldn't get me banned...) with the former far less so.

Aaaaaanyway, if there was some way for the drug to be so cheap that almost everyone in the world could afford it then it would be an easy yes for me. Otherwise, it's hard to say.
That stormtrooper looks like he's about to go off.
"Welcome to imperial furry concentration camp, rebel scum!"
 

Plucky

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Wonder how would it work if it was Snake-Based, sure you said 50%, but are we speaking 'scary PSA smoking man' furry, or cool Naga furry...are scaled creatures even considered as furry? (Scalies?) Nagas probally can endure various enviroments, digest just about anything and even has a stretchy mouth...that could give sex appeal, or simply really tight cuddles! :O

If it has to be an animal with fur though, perhaps a cat, you get the ability to survive falls a lot higher than regular people could handle, graceful flexibility and (potencially) a prehensile tail with soft velvety fur. (im assuming if a tail is long enougth, it would use some of our old DNA to ressurect the tailbone)
 

Atmos Duality

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Ah...furries. I've had a few terrifying experiences with them in real life (no, it's not up for discussion).
Still, I'm going to strive to do better: I'm going to ignore the usual topics about the porn, the alleged persecution complex, the other usual general bad vibes of the Internet, and do some speculative scientific reasoning instead.

Why? Because I'm bored.

Now...

I imagine that most results of that sort of genetic tampering (if possible) would seldom (statistically improbable is an extreme understatement) result in that idealized "furry". It would probably end up with a partially/grown or fragmented biological form rather than a humanoid with claws, fur, and a tail.

One problem (stemming from fiction/fantasy, I know) is that the fandom seems to treat furry concepts as a method of simply altering the human form. Usually, they aren't trading more "human for animal"; they're simply tacking on features they wish they had.
While that's fine for pure fiction, if one were to venture into the hypothetical realm of human-animal hybridizing (to any significant degree), I imagine the process would never produce the intended result.
Why? Because evolution and traits don't work that way; rather, evolution seems to deal in adjustments and tradeoffs in a species over a long time. Even assuming that one could eliminate the element of time through direct alteration, you're still playing with biological disparity:

A furry wolf-man would get sharp teeth, a snout, and claws while retaining a brain sufficiently large enough for sentience. It seems rather odd, almost backwards, because our species evolved away from most of those features. In fact, human teeth are actually lagging slightly behind due to the rise of civilization (they no longer self-sharpen or grow back, yet they still haven't adjusted much to the food plaque that occurs due to the strong variety in our diet).
Why? We were slowly becoming tool users, and applying more complicated intelligence. Claws could get in the way of utility, and even flint was on par, or better, than most natural claws at the time. Can you imagine trying to use a keyboard with claws?

But for kicks, lets going further into the realm of the ideal: Wings.
A winged furry's, er, wings, in order to be feasibly flight capable in our atmosphere and gravity, would require a positively massive span, powerful locomotion, and have an average body mass less than half that of a modern, fit adult human (all that and STILL retain a strong enough body structure for a large brain and spine).
Mostly though: It's the Law of Scaling working against the furry here. (an ant that is scaled up to human size would barely be able to stand).
Oh, and being from a tool-using society, this also assumes that the winged furry isn't carrying much beyond their own clothing and is in good physical shape; not quite as practical as one might think.
I dunno about you, but I would still probably want the ability to fit inside a vehicle for long distance trips.

SHORT VERSION: While it's entirely idle speculation (I'm not a biologist), I'd guess that playing "mix and match" with animal and human traits, scientifically, would be wishful thinking at best.
 

Eclectic Dreck

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I think the people who assert that they would handle discrimination with their new fangs and claws must have forgotten a few things:

1) People likely to use violence to solve this sort of problem generally travel in groups
2) Firearms exist and are relatively common in a great many places

My personal response would probably be "no gene hax for me, thanks". Don't want to be kick/banned from life or anything as I don't know if there's another server to join.
 

Erana

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My question is what happens to nut butters and spreads?

Does all the sudden, these superpeople stop purchasing them? Have you ever seen a dog eat peanut butter?
 

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Aside from the lack of a prehensile tail, I'd say the human form is pretty solid and definitely well suited for our modern way of life. No need to mess with it.

On the stronger-smarter debate. While I'm lacking in physical endurance, I am quite content with my current level of intelligence.

Ultimately, the individual benefits don't seem to outweigh the social and societal detriments not to mention as Atmos stated it wouldn't be without individual drawbacks either.

Further, I have no doubt that a person's personality would be at least slightly altered after using this serum. Either by pressures from family, society, etc or by a direct physical affect on one's thought processes (It makes you smarter right? There would likely be side effects here as well) or both.

Nah, I'd stay as I am now.

Besides, the furries would be way behind the cyborgs.[/joke]
 

UltraXan

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In all honesty, I'd just wait until a human's conscious can be infused into a robot's body to near perfection, kinda like surrogate. After all, it doesn't matter what advantages this serum would give you: Flesh is a design flaw.
 

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Of course I would. Those who wouldn't would be quickly left behind and die out. Who needs those intellectually and physically inferior hairless monkeys, no one!
I just wish I could get a synthetic body instead of furry one, but you cant be too picky.
 

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I'm not a furry, but depending if I could choose what animal it was, I probably would.

Improved intelligence and strength? sign me up.

Chance to be half reptile, or something with a longer lifespan? Hellz yeah! How badass would that be?
 

O maestre

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super powers or discrimination..... superpowers any day of the week.... i mean honestly i could be like a tiger shark hawk man.... or if only one animal was available i would be.... the Batman..
 

KimonoBoxFox

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So it looks like, for the 'yes' group, it's:

"Super powers. Heck yes."

and "I get a tail/muzzle?! *Fap fap fap*"

And for the 'no' group, it's:

"You fail biology/physical science forever."

And "I'm not turning into one of 'them' freaks."

EDIT: Oh right, and "Let's not upset the delicate balance of our B O R I N G society."

EDIT EDIT: Right, forgot. "Let's remember old-world values of 'work til we're 60 for our musculature so none of the plebs can match us'."

*snicker*
 

mcnally86

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Erana said:
My question is what happens to nut butters and spreads?

Does all the sudden, these superpeople stop purchasing them? Have you ever seen a dog eat peanut butter?
In my local SafeWay the pet food isle expanded and now has a freezer and refrigerated section. So I think the IRL furries must be around already if the percentage of human food to animal food in stores is changing. Maybe some of the people claiming peanut allergies are really furries who don't want to blow their cover by going Om Nom Nom for 5 minutes after taking a bite of a delicious sandwich.
 

KimonoBoxFox

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mcnally86 said:
Erana said:
My question is what happens to nut butters and spreads?

Does all the sudden, these superpeople stop purchasing them? Have you ever seen a dog eat peanut butter?
In my local SafeWay the pet food isle expanded and now has a freezer and refrigerated section. So I think the IRL furries must be around already if the percentage of human food to animal food in stores is changing. Maybe some of the people claiming peanut allergies are really furries who don't want to blow their cover by going Om Nom Nom for 5 minutes after taking a bite of a delicious sandwich.
Actually, canids have a toxic reaction to chocolate, not peanut butter. My mother raises Great Danes and spreads the latter on bread to give as treats for that very reason.

Ironically, caffeine is actually toxic to humans in the same quantity that chocolate's toxic ingredient is to dogs.