Furry Morality Question

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Vyce

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Unless dragons or lizards are involved then no :p (Or anything to do with scales really)
 

artanis_neravar

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SodaDew said:
Why should I take it and insult one of gods(or natures depending on your belief) creations?
Well if you believe in god, then god gave us the ability to do this, so how could it be wrong?
 

gbemery

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If you were great at procrastination would this make you superhuman at procrastination because I really don't need to procrastinate more than I do already.
 

CM156_v1legacy

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Vidi Kitty said:
You really are nothing but a racist who can't see they way others do and can't agree with or even put up with the thought of someone choosing to be so drastically different.
Wait, you are serious?


Racist? Come on.
Next you are going to be comparing us to Nazis. And before you do, making fun of someone who likes a drawing of two animal-people getting it on is not in any way comparable to the crimes of the Third Reich.
 

JoshuaMadoc

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KhakiHat said:
I WANT TO BE A DOLPHIN!1!11!!111!

Caps spam aside, I think it a bad idea. I kinda like being human. We can run farther, have killer bods and make potato chips to ruin both. Dolphins just swim around n' shit. Though I think I could live with animal like ticks and a stubby tail hidden under a jacket. Maybe a pair of cat ears. But I'd stop there.

Ok, so I might go with the full tail, but I'm a dude, so I dont think we can go much further...
Uh...

Dolphins kill their own kin for shits and giggles. If anything, you'd risk becoming a psychopath.

Also, Kraken's anti-mutant sentiments makes me wonder if he takes joy in killing animals. Oh, perish the thought!
 

Double A

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No, that's idiotic. We evolved into humans, no point in growing a tail again. If Mother Nature says we don't need it, I'm inclined to agree with her.

Don't fuck with nature, at least not so drastically over such a short period of time.
 

artanis_neravar

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CM156 said:
Vidi Kitty said:
You really are nothing but a racist who can't see they way others do and can't agree with or even put up with the thought of someone choosing to be so drastically different.
Wait, you are serious?


Racist? Come on.
Next you are going to be comparing us to Nazis. And before you do, making fun of someone who likes a drawing of two animal-people getting it on is not in any way comparable to the crimes of the Third Reich.
If you hate something that you don't understand, and the people that fall into that category then yes you are a racist
 

Ryengu

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Internet Kraken said:
How can you intentionally acquire the characteristics of wild animals and then be outraged when people treat you more like one?
Because a sapient being is still a sapient being, and the listed effects of the serum have no negative impact on intelligence, in fact they have a positive one. Take a look at Beast from X-men, he's pretty much the perfect example for this argument. Is he any less of a person because he has animal traits?
 

Vidi Kitty

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Internet Kraken said:
Vidi Kitty said:
You really are nothing but a racist who can't see they way others do and can't agree with or even put up with the thought of someone choosing to be so drastically different. If you really think you can just look at someone and 'know' what kind of person they are, then I pity you. You should really try to open your eyes more than a cold glare.
Yes, I am a racist for being opposed to completley unnecessary, disgusting, disturbing, and bizarre genetic modifications. I am a racist for thinking of somebody as a less of a person because they are intentionally becoming part animal and acting like one. Even though by definition they really are less of a person. They're acting like animals.

Any society that is so accepting towards massive genetic modifications for frivolous reasons is one I don't want to be part of .
You keep confusing taking on traits of an animal with becoming one. You also keep assuming that this is only going to be used by those durn furries who have nothing better to do than be an animal. You ALSO keep thinking that society in general is going to be OK with these modifications, or that people given the chance to use them are doing to give a damn.

People are going to do what they are going to do no matter what society or someone's god or some hateful fellow on the internet might think.

On a side note, how religious are you? scale of 1-10, no specifics, just want to know how much that is playing into your thought processes.
 

CM156_v1legacy

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Ryengu said:
CM156 said:
Ryengu said:
Furry is not a sexual fetish by nature.
You're joking, right?
Right?


Warning: This may offend you
"Another often-used tactic is to deflect the blame of all of the terrible and awful things about the Furry community onto a small, anonymous group referred to as 'Furverts' (Basically, Furries into all of that nasty stuff). While it's true that not ALL Furries take delight in reading stories about gay threesomes featuring Disney characters, the majority do. The most popular and biggest Furry websites, the most popular Furry IRC channels, the most popular Furry newsgroups ALL cater to this fetish, the adult items sections on Furbid always have the most items for sale, it's quite clear that all of this can't be the result of one or two 'Furverts' spoiling things for the poor oppressed Furries (Persecution complex again). Is it really unreasonable when presented with all of this evidence to come to the conclusion that the vast majority of Furries are into some incomprehensibly f****** weird stuff? No, no it's not."

http://www.godhatesfurries.com/index.php?p=dealing
So "the internet is for porn" is only inapplicable when there's an opportunity to slam someone? My contention is that there is something that appeals about the anthro physique, porn aspects aside. I know several anthro artists that rarely if ever draw porn. As well, there is a difference between "porn" and "artistic nudes", go ask the greeks about that.

Allow me to quote someone in this regard

It?s intent. I?m an artist too, and the difference is that I draw stuff for the sake of art. A picture of a ninja stabbing a guy (for example) isn?t a blueprint for my future endeavors, it?s a picture of a ninja doing what ninjas do. You draw pictures to jerk off and that?s wrong bro. You don?t walk into the museum, take a look at Picasso?s ?Des Mademoiselles D?Avignon?, pull down your pants and play with your paintbrush. Why? Because intent is half of art, and the greats did what they did to express emotion, stories, real life, the abstract, etc. There intent was never to get some guy in his basement to have a hard on. You intended for people to get off to your drawings and that?s the difference.
And I have yet to see any furry art that was not intended to arouse someone.
 

artanis_neravar

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kitetsu said:
KhakiHat said:
I WANT TO BE A DOLPHIN!1!11!!111!

Caps spam aside, I think it a bad idea. I kinda like being human. We can run farther, have killer bods and make potato chips to ruin both. Dolphins just swim around n' shit. Though I think I could live with animal like ticks and a stubby tail hidden under a jacket. Maybe a pair of cat ears. But I'd stop there.

Ok, so I might go with the full tail, but I'm a dude, so I dont think we can go much further...
Uh...

Dolphins kill their own kin for shits and giggles. If anything, you'd risk becoming a psychopath.

Also, Kraken's anti-mutant sentiments makes me wonder if he takes joy in killing animals. Oh, perish the thought!
Kralen's anti-mutant sentiments are exactly why Magneto formed the Brotherhood
 

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artanis_neravar said:
CM156 said:
Vidi Kitty said:
You really are nothing but a racist who can't see they way others do and can't agree with or even put up with the thought of someone choosing to be so drastically different.
Wait, you are serious?


Racist? Come on.
Next you are going to be comparing us to Nazis. And before you do, making fun of someone who likes a drawing of two animal-people getting it on is not in any way comparable to the crimes of the Third Reich.
If you hate something that you don't understand, and the people that fall into that category then yes you are a racist
Rrac·ism   /ˈreɪsɪzəm/
[rey-siz-uhm]

?noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.


Last I checked, furries are not a race. They are a group.

And what if I hate them because I understand them?

Here is the thing: I understand furries. I really do. And that is what helped me form my opinion
 

Vidi Kitty

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artanis_neravar said:
CM156 said:
Vidi Kitty said:
You really are nothing but a racist who can't see they way others do and can't agree with or even put up with the thought of someone choosing to be so drastically different.
Wait, you are serious?


Racist? Come on.
Next you are going to be comparing us to Nazis. And before you do, making fun of someone who likes a drawing of two animal-people getting it on is not in any way comparable to the crimes of the Third Reich.
If you hate something that you don't understand, and the people that fall into that category then yes you are a racist
Couldn't have put it better. Also if I were going to compare you people to Nazis, I might mention how you expect people to fall in like with your thinking even though it is extremely against a certain group just because you think you are right >.>
 

JoshuaMadoc

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artanis_neravar said:
Kralen's anti-mutant sentiments are exactly why Magneto formed the Brotherhood
I dunno, last I heard, ol' Mags went "evil" because he killed people out of frustration at being persecuted (for being jewish, at that), not because he takes joy in killing children.

But yeah! If people are so against hybrids, why can't they just take it upon themselves and attempt their own brand of genetic cleansing by use of heavy ordinance? Better than arguing, I'd say.
 

KimonoBoxFox

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KimonoBoxFox said:
Kraken, I'm a little confused. What exactly are you trying to protect, beyond status quo? So we've ascertained that changing people for strictly, physiological benefit is a no-go because it's somehow unfair to the underachievers who can't become millionaires because they don't do the work or make the plans necessary to become said individuals. Yet on the flip side, it's insane to have a different view of personal beauty from other human beings, as well?

What gives? Who 'are' you trying to protect, and from what?

Tow things; A) People who become animals are creepy when they permenantly change their body in order to do so B) A society that is tolerant towards massive genetic modifications for trivial reasons is one that is setting itself up for disaster. Genetic modification is a dangerous thing, and it must be handled with care to ensure that is not abused.
Two things:

A.) Women with wolf muzzles are lovely (As subjective as your first assessment, so there ya go, here's the opposite argument)

B) A society that is tolerant beats a society that recklessly tries to beat down an issue like it doesn't exist, allowing the corrupt to make it happen anyway behind our backs. And who exactly sets the standard for frivolity--you? I find celebrities frivolous. That doesn't stop Botox treatments, that's for certain--I somehow doubt it's a frivolity you can stave off forever with personal distaste.
 

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Isn't this like DE-evolution? The whole reason that were humans is because we're smarter and more dexterous than any animal on earth. This would just be a step back.
 

Internet Kraken

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Vidi Kitty said:
You keep confusing taking on traits of an animal with becoming one. You also keep assuming that this is only going to be used by those durn furries who have nothing better to do than be an animal. You ALSO keep thinking that society in general is going to be OK with these modifications, or that people given the chance to use them are doing to give a damn.

People are going to do what they are going to do no matter what society or someone's god or some hateful fellow on the internet might think.
And I'd say if you're changing your body in such a drastic way, you have mental issues. It's creepy, it's weird, it's bizarre, and there's no reason to bring it out of you mind and into general society. Fuck, I think about a lot of weird shit to but you don't see me flaunting it.

On a side note, how religious are you? scale of 1-10, no specifics, just want to know how much that is playing into your thought processes.
Not applicable. I believe in no god and follow no religion, however I do not deny the potential for a god to exist. Basically, I don't think about religion. Dwelling on it for years brought me nothing so I moved on.

KimonoBoxFox said:
B) A society that is tolerant beats a society that recklessly tries to beat down an issue like it doesn't exist, allowing the corrupt to make it happen anyway. And who exactly sets the standard for frivolity--you? I find celebrities frivolous. That doesn't stop Botox treatments, that's for certain--I somehow doubt it's a frivolity you can stave off forever with personal distaste.
This is not something that society should be tolerant about though. We should not accept rampant genetic modification as a good thing. And there's a world of difference between a botox treatment and becoming a hybrid. The difference being that one is altering a person on the genetic level.
 

artanis_neravar

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CM156 said:
artanis_neravar said:
CM156 said:
Vidi Kitty said:
You really are nothing but a racist who can't see they way others do and can't agree with or even put up with the thought of someone choosing to be so drastically different.
Wait, you are serious?


Racist? Come on.
Next you are going to be comparing us to Nazis. And before you do, making fun of someone who likes a drawing of two animal-people getting it on is not in any way comparable to the crimes of the Third Reich.
If you hate something that you don't understand, and the people that fall into that category then yes you are a racist
Rrac·ism   /ˈreɪsɪzəm/
[rey-siz-uhm]

?noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.


Last I checked, furries are not a race. They are a group.

And what if I hate them because I understand them? Which is the case here.
If you hate people who want to become hybrids, which would be a race, then it would be racism.
And hating something that you fully understand makes you a terrible person
 

jimahaff

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Would mixing with certain animals give you certain traits? like would being part dolphin let you breathe under water? part eagle let you fly? Part star fish give you regeneration? If so then this would be a very hard choice.
If not I might not go for it. I am satisfied with who I am.