Here's a strange thought. Gabe could of lied to you so you think there's no big reveal after all and then BAM everyone is shocked much more.
Just a little thing I theorized.
Just a little thing I theorized.
Gabe Newell confirms no Half Life at the VGAs. :( [UPDATED, he has now confirmed it]
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High-Five! I knew I wasn't the only person who felt this way. It breaks my heart, but I've given up on them too. Stuff like this is just another reason why I have.Elmoth said:
I am not surprised in the slightest. In fact I would go as far as to say I WOULD of been surprised had Half Life 3 or Half Life 2: Episode 3 had been even announced at the VGAs much less actually having a video for it.
I am starting to speculate more on what exactly are they doing over there at Valve Headquarters in Bellevue, Washington. Seriously! Its not as if they need to build an engine, create a new premise, or even really create that many more characters. They are just making the end game of the last 2 episodes, correct?
If thats the case then what the hell is taking so long? Black Mesa: Source is going to be out before this game comes out. Gabe doesn't seem to be doing anything more or less than taking his absolute sweet ass time. God I HATE Valve time.
I am starting to speculate more on what exactly are they doing over there at Valve Headquarters in Bellevue, Washington. Seriously! Its not as if they need to build an engine, create a new premise, or even really create that many more characters. They are just making the end game of the last 2 episodes, correct?
If thats the case then what the hell is taking so long? Black Mesa: Source is going to be out before this game comes out. Gabe doesn't seem to be doing anything more or less than taking his absolute sweet ass time. God I HATE Valve time.
I'm sick and damn tired of Valve standing around with their dicks in their hands. Other than Portal 2 and making new Hats for TF2, what exactly have they been working on this whole time?
I've gotten to the point where I don't even care anymore about Half-Life. It was above average but it sure as hell isn't worth this amount of BS and time.
I've gotten to the point where I don't even care anymore about Half-Life. It was above average but it sure as hell isn't worth this amount of BS and time.
You used one of the most annoying grammatical errors in existence in your first four words, and I just had to do my part and let you know:
"As you may of heard"
what you REALLY mean is:
"As you may HAVE heard".
Just because they sound similar, doesn't mean you can switch them whenever you please...
You're welcome
"As you may of heard"
what you REALLY mean is:
"As you may HAVE heard".
Just because they sound similar, doesn't mean you can switch them whenever you please...
You're welcome
Considering not long ago we had a 1 million dollar tourney for a game that still hasn't been even released I can hazard a guess. If You don't know I mean DoTA2. Valve want's a piece of the esports pie, that's why DoTA and new CS were their main focus. How it will play out for them... is questionable, but They have the luxury of having a backup plan called Steam that keeps them going.Smeggs said:
Plus, on a really cold-calculation front - what's the point of releasing a shooter when there is so many of them coming our on yearly basis already?
Actually, most people really did like it that much. Shame you didn't, but you say it's mediocre like that's a fact. Which is silly.CobraX said:
Question still remains, what is Valve doing for 2012?
2005: Day of Defeat: source
2006: HL2: Episode 1
2007: HL2: Episode 2, Team Fortress 2, Portal
2008: Left 4 Dead
2009: Left 4 Dead 2
2010: Alien Swarm (most of their catalogue ported to Mac)
2011: Portal 2
... 2012: Counter-strike Global Offensive?
By 2012 if will have been 8 years since Half Life 2, that is a long time to have left Freeman and 5 years since even Episode 2. However, Portal, and the much more comprehensive Portal 2 are apparently set in the same universe and canon as Half Life.
But IF there is anything to announce, would Valve really chose the VGAs to announce it?
I think Valve is a bit like Rockstar who don't go to E3 to announce their games, Valve isn't going to VGA to announce their new adventure. Portal 2 was announced a year in advance via leaks through game patches, that is how they are going to announce things.
I don't see what else is left on the table. Left 4 Dead team has moved on to new projects outside valve, Portal 2 has just wrapped, TF2 is due the final trailer'd update (Meet the Pyro) and Global-offensive is mainly a repack of CS we all know mainly targeted to console audiences.
2005: Day of Defeat: source
2006: HL2: Episode 1
2007: HL2: Episode 2, Team Fortress 2, Portal
2008: Left 4 Dead
2009: Left 4 Dead 2
2010: Alien Swarm (most of their catalogue ported to Mac)
2011: Portal 2
... 2012: Counter-strike Global Offensive?
By 2012 if will have been 8 years since Half Life 2, that is a long time to have left Freeman and 5 years since even Episode 2. However, Portal, and the much more comprehensive Portal 2 are apparently set in the same universe and canon as Half Life.
But IF there is anything to announce, would Valve really chose the VGAs to announce it?
I think Valve is a bit like Rockstar who don't go to E3 to announce their games, Valve isn't going to VGA to announce their new adventure. Portal 2 was announced a year in advance via leaks through game patches, that is how they are going to announce things.
I don't see what else is left on the table. Left 4 Dead team has moved on to new projects outside valve, Portal 2 has just wrapped, TF2 is due the final trailer'd update (Meet the Pyro) and Global-offensive is mainly a repack of CS we all know mainly targeted to console audiences.
Since his words are "we are not announcing anything," at least that means it's somewhere in the development phase. So at least the few people who have diluted themselves into thinking it's not being made can shut up.ToastiestZombie said:BREAKING UPDATE TIME!!!
There has been three more emails sent to gabe newell about this. All giving a much more concrete answer to the question of Half life 3. The answer is sadly no
Links:http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3931/noep3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XTZ3S.png
http://www.image-share.com/upload/1120/200.png
*Sigh*
You know, we keep doing this, don't we? Someone not even remotely connected to Valve says "HL3" and everyone goes apeshit. It's getting a bit tiring to be frank, why don't we all just sit down, wait patiently, and when Valve actually say something about it, then we'll get excited, yeah?
You know, we keep doing this, don't we? Someone not even remotely connected to Valve says "HL3" and everyone goes apeshit. It's getting a bit tiring to be frank, why don't we all just sit down, wait patiently, and when Valve actually say something about it, then we'll get excited, yeah?
Are you trying to say that however much time occurs between games is actually the time lapse in the game storylines themselves? I've never gotten that impression, and I think that is the last thing Valve will do. There are far too many questions where Episode 2 left off that need answering, and far too many characters that--at the very least--deserve a proper goodbye. Setting the next episode more than a few months after where 2 left off would leave far too many questions unanswered. Just remember what happened at the end of Episode 2, and what they were after next. There's no way Valve can just "skip" that.Treblaine said:
Also, I think Portal 1 was the closest in time to where Half-Life occurs. In Portal 1, Aperture had been taken over by GLaDOS, and she had been in charge for a while. But up to right before she took over, the game clearly shows you in a few parts that Aperture and Black Mesa were fierce rivals (or at least Aperture saw it that way). I feel like Portal 1 was set right about the time the events of HL2 and the episodes were occurring (thus why it was made and released with the orange box). Then, Portal 2 jumps at least a few decades into the future, possibly a hundred years or more. Unless they do some sort of epilogue decades later, I don't think we'll be seeing GLaDOS or Chell active in the HL games anytime soon.
At this point, I'm assuming HL3 will never happen. Oh, well. It's been too long and I've lost serious interest in the series all together now.
Uhh... either poor choice of wording for the update. Not really a good move to say "he confirmed that he said no"
No.Lilani said:
HL2 Episode 1 came 2 years after HL2 year clearly just minutes after HL2 ended. I am saying for US THE AUDIENCE it has been a long wait. You can only wait so long before prior events fade in significance and clarity. This may be exploited.
Also, I think you CAN just leave abruptly and pick things up later, it's not goodbye forever. HL2 picked up with these characters just fine. However the City 17 Story Arc sure is done. Now beginning is the Borealis Story Arc with no direct connection to events of City 17.
I don't know if there will be an Episode 3, or if it will be straight to Half Life 3, or if Ep-3 will be a very short tech-demo like Lost Coast or - as we should expect from Valve - something completely unique and unexpected.
As far as I can tell, The canon works have not indicated when or even where Portal 1 or 2 are set. Just that Portal 2 is significantly after numero uno. Realise even to this day there is no "official" year that Half Life 1 was set, nor how far in the future Half Life 2 is set (anything between 10 and 20 years)
"I feel like Portal 1 was set right about the time the events of HL2"
What specific parts of either game made you feel that?
Maybe it's only just because I played the games for the first time just a few months ago, but I don't think it will be hard for people to remember the most important parts. I mean it's sort of hard to forget a cliffhanger like that. Remember the gap between HL and HL2? That was six years, and the gap in graphics and computing capabilities between the two games is astronomical. And even though quite a few of the people who played HL2 had never played HL1, Valve didn't force the player to sit down and be spoonfed the backstory. They just hinted at enough for you to get a grip as to what was going on, and then went from there. I actually played the games this way, and I felt like I knew just enough to get by. There were certainly gaps, but it wasn't anything that ruined the experience for me.Treblaine said:
Plus, I believe quite a few people who have HL2 and the episodes at this point have it through Steam. Meaning they will still have access to them to this day. They aren't long games by any means, and they go faster the second time around, so it wouldn't be hard for anyone to play through them again. And I'm sure when the time comes Valve will do some sort of promotional sale, maybe the Mauve Box or something.
The reason I feel like Portal is set around the events of HL2 is because it was released in the Orange box and in the same universe with seemingly about the same level of technology, so I don't see what other time period Valve would have been going for. Plus, in Episode 2, the Borealis is treated as the "lost" project of Aperture. Obviously Aperture isn't functioning at that point in time, otherwise they could just go to there and ask them about it. That means it's sometime after Aperture's fall. So maybe it's not EXACTLY when HL2 is occuring, but it's definitely close. The Borealis had to have been done before the events of Portal 1, because after GLaDOS took over nothing else involving Aperture could have been produced. That's all speculation on my part, though. Take it however you want
Let's just say that I know that quite a few critics, and many more gamers, would disagree with those statements. The consensus was that Half Life 2 more or less managed to set a new standard for the FPS genre, a standard that most other developers still can't compare with. Portal 2 was equally amazing, at least if the critics are to be trusted. And I loved it.Keava said: