Whoa, someone did some serious necroposting to get this topic back from it's well deserved sleep. Anyway, I promise to finish this article, but right now it sucks.
Game design: Down the tubes.
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Blast and damnation!yonsito said:
Of all the thing to inadvertently reference, why did it have to be Schrödinger's cat?
Yeah basically. I saw that picture before and seeing it once again got me thinking.Saskwach said:
Two pages for the greatest thread of the century! Whoo!
How do we know if the game is being made until the developers tell us? They could scrape the game and we wouldn't even know. Is fable 2 still in the works!?yonsito said:
Saskwach said:
Oh I get it.
Hey that reminds me. In house, Dr willson says:
"Well she can't be in two places at once can she? Unless she's a cat in a box."
Anybody else get that at the time?
On the topic of house, am I the only person to notice.
House = Sherlock Holmes
Drug's.
A freind called willson/watson.
only interested in the case, not the people.
That might have been off topic. But then again this thread doesnt have a topic.
Long, boring post about Schrodinger's Cat ahead; prepare to skip down if you're lazy/not interested in physics.
Interestingly enough, there's actually some serious mathematics that more or less proves that the cat does, in fact, exist in a state of both dead and not-dead. But then someone pointed out how stupid it is to think that the cat settles on being dead or not-dead just because it is observed, and instead proved that the cat becomes two cats, one of which is dead, and the other is not-dead. The experiment goes something like this:
An photon gun is pointed at a photosensitive panel. Between the photon gun and the panel, there is a wall, with two slits in it, arranged like so:
Photons are fired towards the wall. The expected conclusion is for some photons to go one way, and some photons to go the other, producing two areas on the panel that have been marked by photons, like so:
However, when the experiment is actually carried out, a third area is marked out, between them:
The conclusion that was reached is that photons, due to not actually behaving like ordinary atoms, travel down both slits simultaneously, joining again on the other side, and travel on in a straight line. As peculiar as this sounds, it seems to be the only way of explaining the third mark on the photosensitive panel.
And since photons and atoms are, when you get right down to it, made up of more or less the same stuff, then it stands to reason that normal atoms, and therefore everything we witness in day-to-day life, can behave in a similar way. The difference being that when a tennis ball goes in two directions simultaneously, it does so in alternate universes. This is the conclusion that is generally accepted by scientists, to explain why Schrodinger's Cat is mathematically proven to be both dead, and not dead. Whether or not the cat is dead when we observe it depends on what universe we are in.
I name my sources as science programs on BBC4 at one in the morning, and a quick glance at wikipedia to check that I'm not talking entirely out of my ass.
Interestingly enough, there's actually some serious mathematics that more or less proves that the cat does, in fact, exist in a state of both dead and not-dead. But then someone pointed out how stupid it is to think that the cat settles on being dead or not-dead just because it is observed, and instead proved that the cat becomes two cats, one of which is dead, and the other is not-dead. The experiment goes something like this:
An photon gun is pointed at a photosensitive panel. Between the photon gun and the panel, there is a wall, with two slits in it, arranged like so:
Photons are fired towards the wall. The expected conclusion is for some photons to go one way, and some photons to go the other, producing two areas on the panel that have been marked by photons, like so:
However, when the experiment is actually carried out, a third area is marked out, between them:
The conclusion that was reached is that photons, due to not actually behaving like ordinary atoms, travel down both slits simultaneously, joining again on the other side, and travel on in a straight line. As peculiar as this sounds, it seems to be the only way of explaining the third mark on the photosensitive panel.
And since photons and atoms are, when you get right down to it, made up of more or less the same stuff, then it stands to reason that normal atoms, and therefore everything we witness in day-to-day life, can behave in a similar way. The difference being that when a tennis ball goes in two directions simultaneously, it does so in alternate universes. This is the conclusion that is generally accepted by scientists, to explain why Schrodinger's Cat is mathematically proven to be both dead, and not dead. Whether or not the cat is dead when we observe it depends on what universe we are in.
I name my sources as science programs on BBC4 at one in the morning, and a quick glance at wikipedia to check that I'm not talking entirely out of my ass.
Schrodinger, that's who. Plus the kitty was evil. I think it was pro national socialist anyway.Fire Daemon said:
Anywho, this sort of reminds me of something I thought about a while ago. It runs on the same premesis. If noone is looking at a certain area, does it exist (in the afct that it isn't visbile) until something either make contact with or somebody looks at it. you can't prove me wrong!!
Light reflects off it but nothing to pick it up thus making it invisible. The mind boggles.zen5887 said:
Damn, all this smart talk makes my head hurt. The most profound saying I know is "it takes many nails to build crib but only one screw to fill it"
What, you mean the band?! Well, they might be able to kill the cat, unless it was already dead.SpiderLotus said:
Depends. I'd say the cat for this reason: the cat is one tough son of a ***** that can exist in both the state of alive and dead at once even when you put it into a frigging AIRLESS BOX. The dog, on the other hand, would roll over and die at the sound of a bell.SpiderLotus said:
Also, Break, very nice post. In the end my laziness won out over my love of physics but there's one problem with your theory: cats are not photons. And the alternate universes theory seems like a hack to get around cats not being photons. They might be true but why would the universe employ such a complicated solution just so our math works?
And finally: 100th post to me! And on a thread that should have died long ago and is now acting like the cat that hijacked it with the help of my avatar. That is a cool coincidence.
I must admit that this thread is quite enlightening. At one point today, I was a bit frustrated that I have not been able to procure a Wii after a few weeks of effort, but now I realize that I do own a Wii and don't own a Wii at the same time. You see, I have already played Metroid Prime: Corruption and have yet to play it as well. You know, I feel so much better now... and at the same time, I don't.