Game Dogs: The Hand of Fate
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So I watched this episode because it had a lot of comments. ^_^
^ And then I saw why. lol One thing is for sure, this episode gives me hope that my series can sneak on The Escapist! >D
^ And then I saw why. lol One thing is for sure, this episode gives me hope that my series can sneak on The Escapist! >D
Wow, that was an exceedingly pointless and tasteless attempt to get viewers.
Also, if you can get away with killing off a main character, it just goes to show that the plot wasn't thought out ahead of time. Altogether weak.
Also, if you can get away with killing off a main character, it just goes to show that the plot wasn't thought out ahead of time. Altogether weak.
Season one was ok. Season two started off with a great episode, and then turned to shit. Then, the icing on the cake, you killed off the only two characters I actually liked in a tasteless, unfunny manner, merely for a failed publicity stunt. I mean, two of the main characters? not even like, a side character like bob or gary, but two main characters...
the worst part is that their deaths were so trivialized. remember Apocalypse Lane? every character death in that show had meaning. This... this was just pathetic. A strangely fitting end to a mediocre series, all things considered...
not that I have any faith that this is the end.
Edit: oh yeah, I almost forgot about the suicide. on that merit alone, you have lost me as a viewer... I damn well might leave the escapist altogether if you all actually want to trivialize suicide, turn it into a joke...
I actually feel sick. If anyone elce agrees that that was just poor form, we should lobby to have this show (not just the episode) removed from the escapist for terrible judgment and poor taste. A good friend of mind took his own life a few years ago, and as a result, I am currently taking my ACSW (Addictions and Community Service Worker) Diploma with a focus on suicide.
Seriously... what the hell were you thinking?
the worst part is that their deaths were so trivialized. remember Apocalypse Lane? every character death in that show had meaning. This... this was just pathetic. A strangely fitting end to a mediocre series, all things considered...
not that I have any faith that this is the end.
Edit: oh yeah, I almost forgot about the suicide. on that merit alone, you have lost me as a viewer... I damn well might leave the escapist altogether if you all actually want to trivialize suicide, turn it into a joke...
I actually feel sick. If anyone elce agrees that that was just poor form, we should lobby to have this show (not just the episode) removed from the escapist for terrible judgment and poor taste. A good friend of mind took his own life a few years ago, and as a result, I am currently taking my ACSW (Addictions and Community Service Worker) Diploma with a focus on suicide.
Seriously... what the hell were you thinking?
I have been sitting here reading the comments and thinking long and hard about what to say as most of it has been said, and now I know what disturbs me most about this episodes, it's not the deaths themselves and it's not how the deaths happened (though the suicide was completely uncalled for), it's the reactions. Yes bob is clearly going or has gone insane, fueled by memories from a way he fought in, but his brother, no one who is trying to be a moral compass should be acting that way.
That being said killing off a main character who has been characterized over a period of time can work, if it's handled properly, no sudden and unexpected death isn't the problem, it's character reaction.
The death of a character, whether meaningful or pointless, gratuitous or subtle, built up or sudden can't be handled in a light tone, sure bit characters or "extras" in some cartoons (like the short lived dilbert cartoon) can be funny in death because they are just pointless background characters, but when a main character dies, someone or something should react appropriately.
I could go on for hours about how I feel things should have been handled, but for the moment I'm going to dive into potential reasons for this episodes events and some things that might interest some people who are still willing to give this show a chance, which I understand there are very very few of.
1. in the keywords there is the phrase "A furrwork orange" and obvious reference to "A clockwork orange", for those who are not familiar with that movie the main premise is that a criminal is forced to undergo a cure where is has his eyeballs pried open and forced to watch disturbing imagery and listen to certain kinds of music that in the end make him completely unable to participate in violence or any sexual activity; even thinking about these things now cause him great pain and when he is released back into the world the people he wronged are able to harm him in various ways and he has no way to even try to retaliate or protect himself.
2. building on part 1, throughout most of the video there is a faint noise of what sounds like a news report in the background, but it's very hard to make out and it may be a clue to something. Bob has quite clearly gone off the deep end since the Russians were introduced and it's possible that he's been committed and forced to view how things might happen if he doesn't wise up or someone is trying to desensitize him so he can't possibly hurt anyone.
3. this episode could be a joke. a very very very very very bad and poorly executed joke.
4. the creators might be pulling what the people behind star trek enterprise did in the final episode, kill off a character with no warning and without reason to get people talking, thinking that "there's no such thing as bad publicity" and that just getting comments is good enough for them. Here's a tip, the term "popular" just means that somethign is widespread and common, it comes from "populous" which means there's a lot of something, popular does not equal good.
To end things off, I agree with what pretty much everyone here has said, there was no reason for this episode to be made at all, no purpose, no point, not one redeeming bit; Rodger had no reason to commit suicide as he seemed to be getting used to his role in his world and actually showed some guts in certain episodes, say when he attacked Chet's action figures to shut him up, something that I found quite amusing.
There are so many ways this could have been improved, for example they could have forshadowed that someone might die but not have blatantly told us through a flash game that "one of these three characters will be killed off at some point" because if the deaths had been a complete surprise then maybe this might have been at least worth the value of "holy crap I can't believe that just happened!" but no, we were expecting this and just wondering "how, when and who?" For an example of how to retool this episode, they hit Beth, Bob's brother gets out, sees what happened, then gets back in alone (no corpse) and they drive away, then they could get into the convoluted legal discussion and it would have been funny. Then at the end they could have easily done a "fooled you" bit after the credits by showing Beth get up, bruised and hurt but not dead, and say something along the lines of "if I ever find out who did that, they're going to regret that they didn't finish me off" or something to that effect.
Will I keep watching this show?
Well I put up with about a year of Zero Punctuation turning into a non-stop complaint-fest and I was rewarded with seeing the last three reviews he did actually be informative and interesting to watch and not just being a long string of complaints with no real points being made. If next week's episode is able to amend what happened here, which is unlikely but not impossible, I may stick with this series and see it through until it ends in a proper way.
I have a high tolerance for stuff like this but I must say even after all the stuff I've managed to get through, this has made me question a lot of things about this site, the creators of this show, and I might stay with this to see what happens.
but I will say this, if the next episode is with Bob and his brother tossing Beth's body in a ditch or burying it so no one will find it, that will be it, I will have had it with this show and I will never watch it again.
To the creator, I hope you are actuality reading this, and if you don't post some reply to these threads by Monday, I think we should all send you emails so you know just how wrong what you did here was.
That being said killing off a main character who has been characterized over a period of time can work, if it's handled properly, no sudden and unexpected death isn't the problem, it's character reaction.
The death of a character, whether meaningful or pointless, gratuitous or subtle, built up or sudden can't be handled in a light tone, sure bit characters or "extras" in some cartoons (like the short lived dilbert cartoon) can be funny in death because they are just pointless background characters, but when a main character dies, someone or something should react appropriately.
I could go on for hours about how I feel things should have been handled, but for the moment I'm going to dive into potential reasons for this episodes events and some things that might interest some people who are still willing to give this show a chance, which I understand there are very very few of.
1. in the keywords there is the phrase "A furrwork orange" and obvious reference to "A clockwork orange", for those who are not familiar with that movie the main premise is that a criminal is forced to undergo a cure where is has his eyeballs pried open and forced to watch disturbing imagery and listen to certain kinds of music that in the end make him completely unable to participate in violence or any sexual activity; even thinking about these things now cause him great pain and when he is released back into the world the people he wronged are able to harm him in various ways and he has no way to even try to retaliate or protect himself.
2. building on part 1, throughout most of the video there is a faint noise of what sounds like a news report in the background, but it's very hard to make out and it may be a clue to something. Bob has quite clearly gone off the deep end since the Russians were introduced and it's possible that he's been committed and forced to view how things might happen if he doesn't wise up or someone is trying to desensitize him so he can't possibly hurt anyone.
3. this episode could be a joke. a very very very very very bad and poorly executed joke.
4. the creators might be pulling what the people behind star trek enterprise did in the final episode, kill off a character with no warning and without reason to get people talking, thinking that "there's no such thing as bad publicity" and that just getting comments is good enough for them. Here's a tip, the term "popular" just means that somethign is widespread and common, it comes from "populous" which means there's a lot of something, popular does not equal good.
To end things off, I agree with what pretty much everyone here has said, there was no reason for this episode to be made at all, no purpose, no point, not one redeeming bit; Rodger had no reason to commit suicide as he seemed to be getting used to his role in his world and actually showed some guts in certain episodes, say when he attacked Chet's action figures to shut him up, something that I found quite amusing.
There are so many ways this could have been improved, for example they could have forshadowed that someone might die but not have blatantly told us through a flash game that "one of these three characters will be killed off at some point" because if the deaths had been a complete surprise then maybe this might have been at least worth the value of "holy crap I can't believe that just happened!" but no, we were expecting this and just wondering "how, when and who?" For an example of how to retool this episode, they hit Beth, Bob's brother gets out, sees what happened, then gets back in alone (no corpse) and they drive away, then they could get into the convoluted legal discussion and it would have been funny. Then at the end they could have easily done a "fooled you" bit after the credits by showing Beth get up, bruised and hurt but not dead, and say something along the lines of "if I ever find out who did that, they're going to regret that they didn't finish me off" or something to that effect.
Will I keep watching this show?
Well I put up with about a year of Zero Punctuation turning into a non-stop complaint-fest and I was rewarded with seeing the last three reviews he did actually be informative and interesting to watch and not just being a long string of complaints with no real points being made. If next week's episode is able to amend what happened here, which is unlikely but not impossible, I may stick with this series and see it through until it ends in a proper way.
I have a high tolerance for stuff like this but I must say even after all the stuff I've managed to get through, this has made me question a lot of things about this site, the creators of this show, and I might stay with this to see what happens.
but I will say this, if the next episode is with Bob and his brother tossing Beth's body in a ditch or burying it so no one will find it, that will be it, I will have had it with this show and I will never watch it again.
To the creator, I hope you are actuality reading this, and if you don't post some reply to these threads by Monday, I think we should all send you emails so you know just how wrong what you did here was.
Dear gods... the end was a tad bit harsh, but the Episode remindet me about Pulp Fiction (the guy in the backseat who got accidentally shot). But still a good one, bloody, gory and bruhaha.
Black Humor Ahoij! XD
Black Humor Ahoij! XD
Absolutely best episode ever.
The humour started off quite slow, in particular the reading part could have been shortened. I gather that it was supposed to focus the viewer on the eye? The jokes should have entered a bit earlier.
About halfway the episode took a good turn with the humour.
The guts were so visceral (for Escapist standards) that I felt the smell of dog tartare from my monitor. That combined with what sitcom humour? This could prove to be very interesting.
I am concerned however, we don't have any characters introduced to take the lead. I hope this doesn't turn out to be a silly unconnected dream, hallucination or some such.
The humour started off quite slow, in particular the reading part could have been shortened. I gather that it was supposed to focus the viewer on the eye? The jokes should have entered a bit earlier.
About halfway the episode took a good turn with the humour.
The guts were so visceral (for Escapist standards) that I felt the smell of dog tartare from my monitor. That combined with what sitcom humour? This could prove to be very interesting.
I am concerned however, we don't have any characters introduced to take the lead. I hope this doesn't turn out to be a silly unconnected dream, hallucination or some such.
if you take out everything but the law jokes that would have been good
as it stands its just disturbing
and moreso im still curious as to how making a portion of your (somewhat small) fanbase pissed that you killed their favorite character will do.......well, anything, it doesnt add anything and just kind of subtracts it...
as it stands its just disturbing
and moreso im still curious as to how making a portion of your (somewhat small) fanbase pissed that you killed their favorite character will do.......well, anything, it doesnt add anything and just kind of subtracts it...
Well congratulations Escapist. Previously I just considered Game Dogs to be that unpleasant thing I could just shove into the corner and ignore. Now I'm downright embarrassed to be a member of the Escapist because of this. I'm sure getting new community members will be easy when their first impression of the website is this schlock. Do you really think this series reflects positively on this site at all? If this was the first thing I saw when I came here, I would've left right away.
Gee that was very... intellectual like.Firerush said:
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Eh, I say kill off rest of characters and transport them all to a purgatory with all their memories wiped. Then you can start again because obviously you jumped the shark and got your ass ripped off.
...WTF? Wow. Sure I voted Bethany but...wow. And why Roger too? Who's going to program now? Chet? Seriously. You just killed the driving force of the plot. Meaning Roger. Just Roger. I guess we'll wait and see where the series goes from here...tune in next time when Chet gets reamed by Gary for being inefficient despite the crippling loss of the rest of the game programming department.
...Holy hell. If half-mutilated suicidal animated-puppies can't traumatize a light-tone crowd, nothing will.
Nice job one-upping Old Yeller though.
Edit: If this was a perfect world, the hand would've tossed-up between Gary and Jennifer.
Nice job one-upping Old Yeller though.
Edit: If this was a perfect world, the hand would've tossed-up between Gary and Jennifer.
Now, to put this in perspective two of my favorite shows are Metalocalypse and Aqua Teen Hunger Force, two shows that, by many accounts, fall on the side of tasteless and senseless. Yet even I think this episode was stupid. Note that I said stupid, not OMG HOW COULD YOU BE THAT OFFENSIVE.
This series pretty much built itself up like some light-toned american sitcom and then does this. It's like if there were an episode of friends where one of the guys rapes and murders Jennifer Aniston's character, then they try to make the usual lame jokes about it. Actually I take that back, because that would probably be fucking awesome and the best episode of Friends ever.
This series pretty much built itself up like some light-toned american sitcom and then does this. It's like if there were an episode of friends where one of the guys rapes and murders Jennifer Aniston's character, then they try to make the usual lame jokes about it. Actually I take that back, because that would probably be fucking awesome and the best episode of Friends ever.
What the heck!?! Both of them dead!?! There better be a bazar plot twist or else...
Either way, that was excessively violent.
Either way, that was excessively violent.