Game of Thrones Opening Episodes Venting/Discussion thread (SPOILERS aplenty!)

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Laughing Man

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To be brutally honest, I don't really care about who wins the Iron Throne, or even that much about the impending zombie apocalypse (though if more Hardhome quality episodes surface I shall be singing a different tune): I just want justice for the Starks, and the Tyrells are more likely to grant that then the Lannisters. I'm well aware the Tyrells are extremely ambitious, conniving and manipulative, but unlike the lion-flag toting cunts, the Tyrells understand you can gain the support of others through acts of kindness and charity, rather then fear and oppression (no matter how ultimately self-serving). As long as the Starks are returned to power in the North, and the Freys and Boltons completely and utterly destroyed to the last man, I'll be content.
See before Tommen came to power I would have happily stood with the kill the Lannisters position but the thing is. I don't now. Cersei got what she deserved she gave the Sparrows some power because she thought it would work in her favour and she got fucked because of it, I am actually wanting to see what she does about that, you also have to remember that she has also lost two children as well, sure Joffery can suck it but Marcella was an innocent a pawn killed off to send a message. Jamie, I dunno, he seems more interested in just protecting his own, not so much protecting the Iron Throne for his families own goals but rather he just wants to stop anyone who would hurt his family, I am guessing that those two things won't be mutually exclusive though. As for Tommen himself, I dunno if he can get away from his mother and we get a chance to see him actually rule he seems like he could be a pretty decent King.
 

JayRPG

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2 Episodes down and no Petyr Baelish (And like 4 total since last season, I think?) Wtf. I just have this terrible feeling they are just going to do nothing with this character now, after building him to be arguably the most powerful, complex, and interesting character in the series.

The last we saw of him he was headed back to the vale to gather an army to take winterfell and become warden of the north, we haven't seen him since that conversation with Cersei, but all the promo material for this season, and all the theories, and leaks, seems to suggest there is a Jon snow/Sansa Stark plotline to take back winterfell, and the lone promo shot of Baelish we have seen was him on his own in the snow.

I thought the idea of him killing the boltons and taking winterfell with an army of the vale was a fantastic way of keeping him Neutral (in a sense), since his motives are unclear and he is totally ambiguous. While the show portrays him as more evil than good there have always been balancing acts, yes he does horrible things, but he is also responsible for the death of Joffrey.. which I'm sure most viewers agree is a very good thing.

What better way to make up for the things that were done to Sansa (which he didn't know was going to happen, he does actually care for Sansa and I'm quite sure he wouldn't have left her there if he knew how insane Ramsay was) than to march a hardened army into Winterfell and skewer some Boltons?

My fear is he will just be killed in some lame way to further a Sansa plotline that will go nowhere anyway.