Game of Thrones Season 4 Ep 6 "The Laws of God and Man" AKA The Dinklage Emmy Winner

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Beliyal

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
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Its not the only thing though. Does she allow Hizdhar Mcweirdlyspelledname to bury his father in the books too? If so, 1) I forgot about that, sorry but 2) that makes zero fucking sense. Remember the dude who came to her and asked to get his fathers house back after 2 slaves killed his father, his brother and raped his mother in front of them? Remember Danys answer? Lol nope, blanket pardon. And yet she's so moved by Hizdahrs plea and grants it, despite having no pressure because the Sons of the Harpy are a non-factor in the show?

I didn't mention this because I try not to flame the show for deviating from the books when the changes aren't completely nonsensical like the whole Yara sailing around the continent to save her brother thing. It just seems stupid. What is show Dany worried about? When you look at the kind of stuff she strolled through without batting an eyelid in the first 3 seasons her showing in the latest episodes just seems out of character. It seems like they gave show Dany the level of stress and worry book Dany had around this time, except they removed half the fucking cause. You could blame it on time constraints if half the story lines shown this season weren't irrelevant.
I'm still undecided about the changes they made with Hizdahr; they clearly introduced him earlier and in a different way. Perhaps to make the audience more sympathetic for the future events? I have no idea. I have no idea what they plan to do with Dany at all at this point, her book 3 material ended in the previous episode. They are now in book 5 with her, and I'm a bit puzzled about what they are going to do with her for two or more seasons. They'll probably add some non-book events, as they always do. I hope all this with Hizdahr they put in now will make some sense later. But yeah, certain character motivations and events are clearly much more different than in the books. I'm still torn on whether I like it or not, but in the end I consider the book canon and much more enjoyable. The show has amazing moments, but I'm not too worried about it. I trust Martin will do his thing as he has always planned to do it. I just wish he would hurry.
 

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Tyrion's odds are probably better in a trial by combat than at the wall anyway. Night's Watch is kinda full of terrible people who hate nobles, and he can presumably still call on Bronn or Jaime to do him a solid. Still, I'd totally forgotten that that was an option so I appreciated the twist.

The one thing they don't need in order to deal with Daenerys is have a special plan. She has an army, other people have armies. Attack her! With your army! Like, actually try to make her army not alive anymore! I know they don't get to sleep with her then, but she is definitely not the only woman on the entire continent and I don't recall her having ever even been in a large-scale military conflict. Hell, do it right and maybe you can take/kill her dragons.
 

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THIS POST CONTAINS SPOILERS.

SkullKing said:
Amaror said:
I allready read the books, but it's not nice to spoil the books for everyone else.
How do you know he read the books? He said he "predicts" it, and I have heard other non book-reading folk predict the same simply because The mountain is a fearsome warrior in the Lannister´s pocket, and Oberyn wants really to fight him.

Until your post this wasn´t an spoiler.
C'mon. Pretty obvious from the way it was written ("subtle" lol) that dude knows what's coming and wanted to pretend he was making brilliant predictions. The last part is a dead giveaway...

I'll be sad to see Oberyn go. He's been a magnetic presence this season, and I think people will be bummed by his somewhat unceremonious departure. Littlefinger shoving his batshit wife out the moon door, on the other hand, should be an enormously entertaining surprise for most viewers. If the show runners are smart, both events will happen back to back in the same episode, with Littlefinger's betrayal offsetting the disappointment of Oberyn's death.

Then, of course, episode 9, which will almost invariably feature a tragic strangling plus a crossbow in the john. Not that I've read the books or anything. Just predictions.
 

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I always thought Ramsey was so much worse than Joffrey ever was, but Joffrey was so much more a terrifying threat because of what he could become and the fact he was actually in the position to do it. Ramsey is a nobody with some sick fetishes, while Joffrey was the goddamn king with unlimited resources and outlets for his madness.
 

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dunam said:
FieryTrainwreck said:
THIS POST CONTAINS SPOILERS...
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If your post contains spoilers, put them in the [ spoilers ] tag.

While scrolling I never even saw that text. You're the only one who's been spoiling in this thread. I don't mind spoilers myself, but have some decency for other people. "this contains spoilers" has always been a bad way to hide them, because people have to exclude themselves from the entire conversation based on one remark.

Put it in spoiler tags and people can participate and simply skip that part.
I wasn't spoiling. I didn't read the books. I was just connecting dots. I swear.

I did fix it, but I also didn't spoil anything that wasn't already spoiled. Unless you think saying exactly what's going to happen in the very first response, and then playing it off like you're just "making predictions", isn't spoiling. In which case, again... I was also making predictions.
 

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One thing I think they failed hard at was Shae. In the books it's clear she's completely mercenary and Tyrion was fooling himself with her, but here they've gone out of their way to make it clear she loves Tyrion and Sansa... so why keep her betrayal arc unchanged. It jars badly with the character and makes no sense. The only way it'll work is if we find out that Cersei or whoever forced her to do it somehow.
 

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This episode was fantastic. The end performance from Dinklage was chill-inducing. Its not often I get an actual physical reaction to a scene, but this one got me. He's got a fantastic character to play, but he does it soooooooo well. Tyrion and Tywin are probably my fav characters on the show (except Arya <3 ) and Tyrion is just...ah man. I've waited for this.

Its an awful pity Tywin just cant recognize Tyrion for the genius he is. Thats Tywins only flaw. If he had used Tyrion to his potential the seven kingdoms would fall like flies before them.
 

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SkullKing said:
Amaror said:
I allready read the books, but it's not nice to spoil the books for everyone else.
How do you know he read the books? He said he "predicts" it, and I have heard other non book-reading folk predict the same simply because The mountain is a fearsome warrior in the Lannister´s pocket, and Oberyn wants really to fight him.

Until your post this wasn´t an spoiler.
I'm pretty sure you are reading that wrong; Aramor is saying he already knows what will happen in the books, and thus he will not comment further... Aramor is not saying that the other person spoiled anything.
 

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Someone needs to get started on writing more outstanding roles for Peter Dinklage, there are not enough dwarf roles; and he is far too great an actor not have a job once his part in GoT declines.

As for the episode, Dani needs to appoint some good governors and spend some time managing her dragons.