Game of Thrones Writer Inspired by Breaking Bad's Evil Protagonist

[Drejer43]

And this is why I am not interested in Game of thrones as much as I used to be. He writes just to kick his readers in the balls, but I guess some people like that sort of thing.

 

[j0frenzy]

Thing I've learned today: a lot of people don't consider Walt outright evil. There's probably a good article about media distorting our views of morality.

I see this a lot, and I'd be lying if I said it doesn't bug me that I have my morals questioned every time I point out that Walter White isn't evil. That's just silly.

As I said before, I don't think he's a good person, but in no way do I believe him to be evil. Evil suggests that he has no redeeming qualities, and/or does things for purely malicious reasons. As demonstrated in the latest episode (incidentally, the one a lot of people use as 'proof' of his evil), this is simply not true.

Spoiler: Breaking Bad Spoiler

I mean, he threw away any chance of his own son ever understanding his actions or forgiving him in the slightest, just so that his wife (who had just attacked him with a kitchen knife) could appear innocent in the eyes of the law. That's just not something an evil person does.

In short, hate him all you want, call him a terrible person, but 'evil' goes further, and simply does not apply to Walt.

And please don't suggest my morality is 'distorted', I find it rather offensive.

I'm going to respond by PMs to avoid having to spoiler text most of this conversation.

 

[tmande2nd]

God I cant imagine it getting worse.

I skimmed it and literally could not imagine reading it all.
"hmm rape.....oooh more rape...oh murder....some torture...more torture....raped while tortured then murdered...huh"

Yeah not for me.
Decent quality though.

 

[Sight Unseen]

Every time I hear news about G.R.R. Martin I get scared. What the hell is he going to do now to some of my favorite fantasy literature characters? Hopefully Daenerys and Arya won't end up dead.

Dany is essentially the heroine (if there is one), and has had so many "kick the puppy" moments done to her that I don't think even George can stand to wail on her anymore.

Dany is tied with Jon Snow with the greatest odds of surviving the series. My favorite character (Cersei) still lives simply because George actively hates his readership's opinions.

Dany is essentially the heroine (if there is one)

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Eddard Stark

Robb Stark

Catelyn Stark

I think your argument is invalidated.

Also have you read the books, because

Spoiler: A Dance With Dragons

Jon Snow is already dead.

Also I think Arya and Dany are two of the MOST likely characters NOT to survive the coming winter, but that's just my opinion.

Spoiler

Snow's death wasn't confirmed, and there is too much in that area to allow him to die, too many plot lines connecting him. My guess is they faked his death with his blood to prevent the execution that accompanys leaving the Night's Watch.

Spoiler

I don't think he'll STAY dead, but I think he genuinely did/will die there. If it was a fake Jon Snow then we wouldn't have it from his POV it'd be from Melisandre's or someone elses.

I think that Jon Snow will warg into Ghost for a while and that one of two things will happen:

a) Mel will revive him like Beric did.
b) his body will be preserved in an ice cell, and somehow Lady Stoneheart will find out that Jon wasn't really Ned's bastard and will make her way to the wall, killing Freys along the way, and give the kiss of life to Jon Snow, sacrificing herself for him.

I don't really have any evidence to support the latter, but I think it would make a really great moment.

That said, I have a feeling that Dany and Arya won't make it. Not because GRRM is sadistic or anything like that, it just seems to be where their stories are headed.

 

[Sight Unseen]

God I cant imagine it getting worse.

I skimmed it and literally could not imagine reading it all.
"hmm rape.....oooh more rape...oh murder....some torture...more torture....raped while tortured then murdered...huh"

Yeah not for me.
Decent quality though.

What??? What parts did you read? While yes there is certainly some mentioned rape and some small amounts of torture (mostly in the later books though) it is by no means a regular occurrence in the main plot of the story

 

[Nghtgnt]

...As demonstrated in the latest episode (incidentally, the one a lot of people use as 'proof' of his evil), this is simply not true.

Spoiler: Breaking Bad Spoiler

I mean, he threw away any chance of his own son ever understanding his actions or forgiving him in the slightest, just so that his wife (who had just attacked him with a kitchen knife) could appear innocent in the eyes of the law. That's just not something an evil person does.

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The problem is that is seems most people, apparently G.R.R. Martin included, missed that point about the episode.

 

[Makabriel]

The sex moments in the book are incredibly uncomfortable for me, mostly because i do my reading outside.
There i am reading at the park there are children and dogs everywhere and suddenly there is a sex scene between danny and her slave and its porn, and she is a child, and im reading child porn in front of children

Hah! I get that. I read at work a lot and when I get to those I tend to start speed reading..