Game Series that Need to Die...

[Grand_Pamplemousse]

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How many indie games have deep philosophical meanings behind them? I've played a fair few and not a single one cam close to the story of any of Final Fantasy games. Granted some indie games are a lot more fun then mainstream games

Good lord. This paragraph just made me vomit into my tea. Please try World of Goo, Machinarium, Braid or Ben there dan that (Free to play now, and only a mere $5 on steam for the sequel).

Also, people do buy games in a series because they know the game won't be too different to the previous titles. The whole idea of buying a new game set in a new world must scare them or something.

FFs are /always/ a group of anime characters fighting some big scary force (the government/Sin/corporations.) and getting to know/love each other on the way. People keep on buying these games because they are promised a resonably good time with minimal thinking on their part.

 

[WildManBill]

Any "______ Hero" game, DJ hero, band hero, gutar hero, and while I'm at it World of Warcraft.

 

[The Rockerfly]

Good lord. This paragraph just made me vomit into my tea. Please try World of Goo, Machinarium, Braid or Ben there dan that (Free to play now, and only a mere $5 on steam for the sequel).

Also, people do buy games in a series because they know the game won't be too different to the previous titles. The whole idea of buying a new game set in a new world must scare them or something.

FFs are /always/ a group of anime characters fighting some big scary force (the government/Sin/corporations.) and getting to know/love each other on the way. People keep on buying these games because they are promised a resonably good time with minimal thinking on their part.

I've played Braid, wasn't impressed with the story but I've never tried the others. I will try the others. Gameplay was nice and unique though but I know it won't appeal to everyone because a large chunk of it is a puzzle game

They also get positive reviews and get heavily marketed. They also have good gameplay is that such a bad thing? The amount of people who buy games because they are told it's good is amazing. I should know, I sell video games to people and I have seen fellow workers recommend awful games because it might be good. Why should you have to search for ages to find a good game?

...Your last paragraph made me vomit, yeah you could say that about most stories. So what? it's a good story, different and interesting characters. Please stop listening to Yahtzee for your video game advice. No these games are brilliant, why do you think most of them are revolutionary and have such a large fanbase? Can't you see, these games sell well because they are very good

 

[Awexsome]

Any game that someone likes that I don't like.

Seriously? The only thing that needs to die are the people who believe that a series needs to die.

Halo is my favorite game to play online or with friends.
Guitar Hero is fun an entertaining.
Final Fantasy is my second favorite RPG series.
I still don't think "It's a me! Mario!" is getting old.

 

[Tzatziki3301]

Final Fantasy.

Yeah I said it.

EDIT: The games would be just as good without the 'Final Fantasy' title ahead of them. They have near dick-all series continuity in them anyway. Better would be to adopt the old Dragon Quest way of naming and give them titles making the FF part more of a brand (so it becoms like a Shonen Jump series)

 

[jp11]

I'd like to see producers stop wring a few dollars out of consumers in the name of "nostalgia" with remakes, re-releases, and re-imaginings, and start making their money with inventive new ideas (although the sheer amount of money to be had means that won't happen for a long while)

 

[Darth Sea Bass]

Halo, A hundred times halo!!!

 

[Tzatziki3301]

^ Only near dick-all? =P

Yeah, have to account for those recurring Chocobos after all

 

[Pillypill]

I think final fantasy needs to die, i kinda liked 10 and 7, but 12 felt like they'd run out of ideas.maybe square enix should move onto a different genre.

 

[The_Graff]

anything that nintendo have EVER looked at, and tomb raider.

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

Ah of course HALO is money spinning and sonic and mario have been making their game in the 2nd digit after halos 5/6 games. I think making six games is WAAAAAY too many, it should be like sonic or mario and not make sequels from basically the same idea posted into different level designs.

Halo isnt mediocre. If people honestly asked themselves if they like halo and dont let the "hating halo makes me cool lul" thought in their head deside for them they would realise that halo is a fairly decent game. Its not the best FPS ever by a long way but it isnt as crap as everyone says it is. Its hardly like they were going to say:

"hey guys you know that two thirds story we started with halo 1 and 2"
"yeah?"
"lets completely ditch it and not finish the story, i mean cmon guys, finishing a half finshed series is just money spinning"
"What a great idea "

I think accusing halo of money spinning when it had a half finished story is just stupid. Sonic and mario are just disjointed retarded stories OVER AND OVER AND OVER again but with a stupid twist like sonic has a sword and the word knight in his title or mario can visit some other god forsaken part of his own little stupid universe.

Please dont compare sonic and halo in terms of money spinning. Count the halo games (4 plus reach plus a loosely related RTS) then count the sonic games and honestly tell me whos making games out of nothing here.

 

[flaming_squirrel]

Zelda
Mario
Halo
Sims
MetalGear Solid
Edit: Oh god I forgot Sonic and the handheld Pokemon games, after buying my 4th or 5th version realisation slowly dawned that they will NEVER change it in any significant way.

anything that nintendo have EVER looked at, and tomb raider.

^ Plus this.

/thread

 

[Grand_Pamplemousse]

Good lord. This paragraph just made me vomit into my tea. Please try World of Goo, Machinarium, Braid or Ben there dan that (Free to play now, and only a mere $5 on steam for the sequel).

Also, people do buy games in a series because they know the game won't be too different to the previous titles. The whole idea of buying a new game set in a new world must scare them or something.

FFs are /always/ a group of anime characters fighting some big scary force (the government/Sin/corporations.) and getting to know/love each other on the way. People keep on buying these games because they are promised a resonably good time with minimal thinking on their part.

I've played Braid, wasn't impressed with the story but I've never tried the others. I will try the others. Gameplay was nice and unique though but I know it won't appeal to everyone because a large chunk of it is a puzzle game

They also get positive reviews and get heavily marketed. They also have good gameplay is that such a bad thing? The amount of people who buy games because they are told it's good is amazing. I should know, I sell video games to people and I have seen fellow workers recommend awful games because it might be good. Why should you have to search for ages to find a good game?

...Your last paragraph made me vomit, yeah you could say that about most stories. So what? it's a good story, different and interesting characters. Please stop listening to Yahtzee for your video game advice. No these games are brilliant, why do you think most of them are revolutionary and have such a large fanbase? Can't you see, these games sell well because they are very good

Could I really say that hamlet (not the best story ever written, not even the best Shakespeare anyway...) is about some anime teens killing Satan? No... that's because the story is A, inventive and B, good.

People don't want something that changes the views upon the world! They don't even want something which stimulates them mentally! ALL THE CHARACTERS IN FFs are the same! There is always one really sad and emo person and always a couple of really happy-go-lucky girls who are interested in the protagonist. There is always one down-to-earth girl and one guy who always cheers the protagonist up when he's feeling down. Jesus christ this isn't rocket science to write....

You also should search at least a little to find a good game. Otherwise you'll just end up waiting to buy the next teenagers vs satan mash up game.

Also I am quite capable of making my own opinions. Just because mine are shared with Yahtzee does not weaken my argument at all.

You know what? Screw it. Go eat your mediocre games and pay $80 for the experience.

 

[The Rockerfly]

Could I really say that hamlet (not the best story ever written, not even the best Shakespeare anyway...) is about some anime teens killing Satan? No... that's because the story is A, inventive and B, good.

People don't want something that changes the views upon the world! They don't even want something which stimulates them mentally! ALL THE CHARACTERS IN FFs are the same! There is always one really sad and emo person and always a couple of really happy-go-lucky girls who are interested in the protagonist. There is always one down-to-earth girl and one guy who always cheers the protagonist up when he's feeling down. Jesus christ this isn't rocket science to write....

You also should search at least a little to find a good game. Otherwise you'll just end up waiting to buy the next teenagers vs satan mash up game.

Also I am quite capable of making my own opinions. Just because mine are shared with Yahtzee does not weaken my argument at all.

You know what? Screw it. Go eat your mediocre games and pay $80 for the experience.

If you break the story down in a few sentences then any story sounds crap. The story is not about how original the idea it is, it's about how it makes you feel. How many Final Fantasies have you actually played and I mean played till then end? If you actually did play any of the games to the end you would realise the epic crescendo there usually is and how utterly wrong you are about the characters

I can agree with you that most people like a comfortable view on the world but Braid is never going to change anyone's view on the world, in fact I doubt any video game story will change peoples views on the world.
Go on, throw a game to me that you think changes how people think about their place on Earth and where they stand in life

Or you could end up buying some shitty game, most people at least get advice from workers in a shop, unless the are there specifically to buy a particular game.

In all honesty, everything you have said relates to Yahtzee's opinion because you sound informed about a good majority of these game

Tell you what, I want a rpg with good story on my 360. What would you recommend then if you have such a hatred for mainstream game?

 

[Sneaklemming]

Mario, zelda etc. (nintendo franchises basically) They should really cop on and stop treating their fans like idiots- and actually do something creative this decade. (and dont dare call the Wii creative... the first thing they thought of was bowling etc. and OH LOOK we're still doing that....)

 

[Beatrix]

Final Fantasy.
All EA Sports titles.
Metal Gear Solid.
All Star Wars games.
Halo.

Heh, I feel so petty making a list like this. For people that haven't caught the theme of it yet, any milked franchise should die.

 

[Vrex360]

Ah of course HALO is money spinning and sonic and mario have been making their game in the 2nd digit after halos 5/6 games. I think making six games is WAAAAAY too many, it should be like sonic or mario and not make sequels from basically the same idea posted into different level designs.

Halo isnt mediocre. If people honestly asked themselves if they like halo and dont let the "hating halo makes me cool lul" thought in their head deside for them they would realise that halo is a fairly decent game. Its not the best FPS ever by a long way but it isnt as crap as everyone says it is. Its hardly like they were going to say:

"hey guys you know that two thirds story we started with halo 1 and 2"
"yeah?"
"lets completely ditch it and not finish the story, i mean cmon guys, finishing a half finshed series is just money spinning"
"What a great idea "

I think accusing halo of money spinning when it had a half finished story is just stupid. Sonic and mario are just disjointed retarded stories OVER AND OVER AND OVER again but with a stupid twist like sonic has a sword and the word knight in his title or mario can visit some other god forsaken part of his own little stupid universe.

Please dont compare sonic and halo in terms of money spinning. Count the halo games (4 plus reach plus a loosely related RTS) then count the sonic games and honestly tell me whos making games out of nothing here.

Thank you, you more or less said it for me. Seriously compared to the many main games and spin offs in the Call of Duty franchise it is just as deserving if not twice as deserving to be called a money spinner as Halo, I really don't like the disproporinate hate for Halo these days it is kind of illogical in some sense because so many of the things people claim Halo is 'guilty' of many other franchises have been doing for longer but still aren't getting blamed. I mean people are really quick to put down Halo for limited weapon capacity and regenerating health then go off and play Call of Duty which also has those features yet I hear no complaining there. It's really hypocritical because as it stands Halo is a rather short series that is only now finally getting into spin off zone, honestly all this 'they are milking the franchise dry' nonsense really just strikes me as the self righteous complaining of people who want to look cool by hating what is popular.
(please note to all the people who merely dislike Halo as it is not their kind of game, I respect your opinion and won't judge)

Further more in agreement to some of the other people on this thread, no game franchise deserves to die just because you (word used figurativley) don't like it. What kind of sense does that make? It's really a bit self important to think that because you don't like it, regardless of how many people do like it, that is therefore deserves to die. Just because it isn't something you personally like does not mean that there don't exist people who do like it and would be annoyed if it dissapeared for your sake. I mean yes, some franchises I would like to see rest just because they've had a long fun run but really if people still like it then who am I to judge?
I really don't like threads like this, I mean the OP no offence but really they are a bad idea. To be fair I will just come out and say that I think unless they can come up with good ideas that Sonic should end as he isn't really proving himself too successful out there but maybe they can find new ideas and who am I to judge people for playing Sonic games, it is just what they do.