Game Stores Selling Opened Games as "New"

[Owyn_Merrilin]

Here's why it matters: I. Do. Not. Like. To. Over. Pay. It's a ripoff. End of.

Except you're not overpaying, except by using a determination of value that just does not matter. Sealed or opened doesn't affect the current value of the game. It may affect some nebulous future value of the game, but with digital distribution, there just won't be any value to old games, since their value is based on rarity and there's literally a million of them out there.

It matters because that determination of value applies to anywhere else I would buy it -- or to Gamestop itself, if they happened to have a copy that they had labeled as used. Face it, used is worth less than new, opened is used, gamestop routinely rips off their customers.

Used is worth less than new, and Gamestop rips off their customers, but opened is NOT USED.

Only consumer's of gamestop think that opened is not used because they made up that silly rule to suit their own purposes. Every other retail or online service sells new copies as sealed.

If it wasn't sealed I could return it for a refund or get a new copy that is sealed. Buy a new copy from gamestop that has been gutted then go to amazon and sell that "new" copy. Except if you try and sell it as new you would get complaints because new is classified as factor sealed copy. You would have to sell it as "like new" which does devalue the game because it is not factory sealed. But I never put it in a console so clearly its "new" right? Nope

So yes opened products are not new, despite what gamestop wants you to believe to suit their agendas.

You're talking about resale, not retail. They're different animals when it comes to valuing items.

You keep saying that, but from my end, it's the same product no matter what, the only difference is who I buy it from.

 

[ResonanceSD]

Because it's not a fact. You know why they give you a discount? So you won't go bitching to management about how they tried to charge you full price for an item that was opened, but had no visible defects whatsoever. So they toss you a 10% discount in the hopes that you'll shut the fuck up, and as a gesture of goodwill to hopefully keep you shopping there.

Hey hey, I am actually an alien lizardperson who controls minds with my toes.

This is also a fact.


But seriously, you got it spot on. I can picture O_M as the guy I'd routinely toss out of my cafe for being "difficult" before calling security.

 

[ResonanceSD]

It would take a heck of a lot to somehow damage the disk just by breaking the shrink wrap, opening the case, removing the disk, and putting it inside a plastic envelope.

You have a pretty irrational fear, there.

Wanting your digital information stored on a plastic disk to be IN MINT CONDITION is pretty irrational too.

You know why they call it "used" if you go home and break the shrink wrap? Because they have no idea what you've done with it. You could have used it to buff your floors for all they know.

+1 to this.

Although for all we know, he might just use game disks to buff his diamond statue of me.

And that is why you fail.

There is no spoon!

Except for my avatar. Then, there is in fact 2 spoons.



@Owyn_Merrilyn <-- you don't work in retail and never have, right?

 

[Crashern Steak]

I don't mind my games being unsealed when I buy them from retailers if I see them put the disc in the case. there's less chance for the disc to be damaged if its left on the shelf in the case.
what I dislike is when they leave the case of a game I want on shelf, but have sold the disc and manual or unable to find it.

 

[2HF]

This thread should have ended at reply #1 with "If you don't want to buy an opened game then don't buy an opened game".

You can have all the opinions you want but I'll tell you right now that not a single one of them matters. If you don't want to buy it then don't. If you do want to buy it then buy it. You'll never change anyone's mind nor should you care to because it doesn't matter. If someone wants to buy an opened game it has absolutely no effect on those who don't want to buy them opened. Same goes for the opposite side.

 

[GAunderrated]

Here's why it matters: I. Do. Not. Like. To. Over. Pay. It's a ripoff. End of.

Except you're not overpaying, except by using a determination of value that just does not matter. Sealed or opened doesn't affect the current value of the game. It may affect some nebulous future value of the game, but with digital distribution, there just won't be any value to old games, since their value is based on rarity and there's literally a million of them out there.

It matters because that determination of value applies to anywhere else I would buy it -- or to Gamestop itself, if they happened to have a copy that they had labeled as used. Face it, used is worth less than new, opened is used, gamestop routinely rips off their customers.

Used is worth less than new, and Gamestop rips off their customers, but opened is NOT USED.

Only consumer's of gamestop think that opened is not used because they made up that silly rule to suit their own purposes. Every other retail or online service sells new copies as sealed.

If it wasn't sealed I could return it for a refund or get a new copy that is sealed. Buy a new copy from gamestop that has been gutted then go to amazon and sell that "new" copy. Except if you try and sell it as new you would get complaints because new is classified as factor sealed copy. You would have to sell it as "like new" which does devalue the game because it is not factory sealed. But I never put it in a console so clearly its "new" right? Nope

So yes opened products are not new, despite what gamestop wants you to believe to suit their agendas.

You're talking about resale, not retail. They're different animals when it comes to valuing items.

Nope they are the exact same beast everywhere but gamestop. If I buy an ipad at best buy and never open it I can sell it as new. If I buy any "new" game from gamestop I cannot sell them as new. You can make all the weak excuses you want but this is the truth.

 

[ResonanceSD]

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None of this is applicable unless you buy games just to have some mint condition jewel cases on a shelf somewhere.

Or you just like to nitpick at everything.

 

[Slayer_2]

Bought my bro Dead Island for Christmas, the serial key had been used and the box opened. Clearly someone had played it. After contacting Steam support, we got it back, they were very professional and helpful, but still, not a very great present.

 

[ResonanceSD]

Bought my bro Dead Island for Christmas, the serial key had been used and the box opened. Clearly someone had played it. After contacting Steam support, we got it back, they were very professional and helpful, but still, not a very great present.

And herein lies the point.


If you go to gamestop, buy something that's new that has been devalued for an actual reason rather than your insane paranoia, GET IT REPLACED.

 

[GAunderrated]

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None of this is applicable unless you buy games just to have some mint condition jewel cases on a shelf somewhere.

Or you just like to nitpick at everything.

Thank you, that pathetic excuse for a counter-argument confirms to me that you know its right but just want to troll. It's time to go to sleep now but its nice to know you at least admitted before I went to bed. Night

 

[Slayer_2]

Bought my bro Dead Island for Christmas, the serial key had been used and the box opened. Clearly someone had played it. After contacting Steam support, we got it back, they were very professional and helpful, but still, not a very great present.

And herein lies the point.


If you go to gamestop, buy something that's new that has been devalued for an actual reason rather than your insane paranoia, GET IT REPLACED.

Would work, except no returns/exchanges for PC gaming peasants. Without Steam being so kind, we would have been, forgive my French, fucked.

 

[ResonanceSD]

Bought my bro Dead Island for Christmas, the serial key had been used and the box opened. Clearly someone had played it. After contacting Steam support, we got it back, they were very professional and helpful, but still, not a very great present.

And herein lies the point.


If you go to gamestop, buy something that's new that has been devalued for an actual reason rather than your insane paranoia, GET IT REPLACED.

Would work, except no returns/exchanges for PC gaming peasants. Without Steam being so kind, we would have been, forgive my French, fucked.

Your post sounds like you had a problem with gamestop rather than steam

 

[Slayer_2]

Bought my bro Dead Island for Christmas, the serial key had been used and the box opened. Clearly someone had played it. After contacting Steam support, we got it back, they were very professional and helpful, but still, not a very great present.

And herein lies the point.


If you go to gamestop, buy something that's new that has been devalued for an actual reason rather than your insane paranoia, GET IT REPLACED.

Would work, except no returns/exchanges for PC gaming peasants. Without Steam being so kind, we would have been, forgive my French, fucked.

Your post sounds like you had a problem with gamestop rather than steam

I did. Still turned out that Steam had to step up and fix EB Games letting their damn employees play one-use games.

 

[ResonanceSD]

Bought my bro Dead Island for Christmas, the serial key had been used and the box opened. Clearly someone had played it. After contacting Steam support, we got it back, they were very professional and helpful, but still, not a very great present.

And herein lies the point.


If you go to gamestop, buy something that's new that has been devalued for an actual reason rather than your insane paranoia, GET IT REPLACED.

Would work, except no returns/exchanges for PC gaming peasants. Without Steam being so kind, we would have been, forgive my French, fucked.

Your post sounds like you had a problem with gamestop rather than steam

I did. Still turned out that Steam had to step up and fix EB Games letting their damn employees play one-use games.

Yeah but my point is that you had a legitimate reason to complain.