Gamer Girls Magazine - Demeaning, sexist and racist!

[Dragonbums]

Forget the photoshop fap fodder babe. The biggest sin in this entire magazine is the fucking font choice.

I mean, seriously? Look at that hyper cursive font on "Girl" and....my fucking god man. They put a BEVEL AND EMBOSS filter on it.

That alone makes this magazine trash.

 

[lunavixen]

Sooo, this is basically the "gamer" edition of FHM? This is sad, and to be honest i'm not sure what's sadder, that the publishers genuinely think that this is what gamers want, are trying way too hard, or that people would actually buy this shit. If you wanted these guys mags, i'm sure there are ones that do this sort of thing better (and without the fetishisation of female gamers).



Captcha: Can you see... Yeah, but I really didn't need to.

 

[lylemcd]

I thought it was a mag FOR girl gamers too

this however is just strange. I like nuts and zoo (usually when im waiting for an MOT at a garage) as much as the next person however ive never understood why they put half naked girls in unrelated magazine. Magazines such as fast bike and max power do this and ive never understood why. This magazine has taken it to the next level though

I feel for bad that people will actually buy this shit

Because most men feel that anything can be improved by boobs/hot girls.

Sports are better with boobs/hot girls.
Cars are better with boobs/hot girls.
Games are better with boobs/hot girls.
Food is better with boobs/hot girls.

Because men like those things and they also like boobs/hot girls.

It's biologically programmed and no amount of teeth-gnashing or ranting or bitching and moaning is going to change that.

Lyle

 

[McMarbles]

Urrggh.

And to add insult to injury, it's not even a very good cover. It even fails as pornography.

 

[Therumancer]

I don't see what the huge fuss is about really. To me it seems more like an excuse for people to try and seem sagely and mature by posting disapproval of pictures of hot girls posing. I checked out both the links and to be honest I couldn't read what the mag actually says, and really the comments about the guy "Rod 360" who put this together seem to largely be speculation, other than commenting on his other "periodicals".

Ubisoft has had a long-standing "Frag Dolls" promotion (which I believe is still alive and well) where the whole idea is similar, they found a bunch of hot girls who play games, grouped them up as a "team" and use them as promotional eye candy for their products and gaming in general. Likewise there have been quite a few hot girls over the years in pawn and modeling who have made a thing out of their gaming habits, including Asia Carerra who was hosting her own Counterstrike (I think that was the game, it's been a while) server for a while. A few female pro-gamer teams have likewise done some fairly racy videos for fun, and then of course we have "Team Unicorn".

The bottom line is that this is another thing using hot girls and gaming to move a product, for promotional purposes, or as the product itself. It's like in "Battlestar Galactica" "As it has happened before, it will happen again". I don't see this as being especially noteworthy.

The biggest question here of course comes down to whether those are actually hot girls who game, or hot girls paid to pose and let him write stuff about how they like to game. That is always the deal with these kinds of things, and how a lot of the "fake geek girl" stuff takes on a life of it's own. Personally, I'll be interested in seeing if any of those ladies show up later in anything gaming or geek culture related where they obviously aren't being paid for it. It is possible, and if that happens this periodical might do more good than harm by helping dispel a lot of the paranoia involved whenever a hot girl says she likes games or comics or whatever.

For those more interested in periodicals aimed at girls that game, while they are PnP oriented I believe I saw some with titles like "D20 girls" and stuff on Drivethru RPG before, a few of them were free if I recall, and the blurbs seemed to imply that is what they were for. I have yet to run into a periodical aimed at girls who video game specifically though.... that said if there was one, going by other ladies magazines you might find a lot of similarities to this, at least in the overall modeling, sex appeal, etc... as ladies mags in part sell glamour and the implication that "you can be like this".

Also, I'll say the cover for "Gamer Girls" was a decent job, see it's designed to be an eyecatch, and it succeeded in that. Like a lot of covers it doesn't hold up to close scrutiny, but it's certainly attention grabbing. Love it or hate it, the guy doing this has some talent with a camera.

 

[Signa]

I refuse to accept this as anything other than satire. As such, I find it hilarious!

 

[Vault101]

It's biologically programmed and no amount of teeth-gnashing or ranting or bitching and moaning is going to change that.

oh shit you guys...looks like feminism is over

oh well...we tried, lets pack it up and go home, can't fight with "science"

in all seriousness this is dumb, and I can't really muster much outrage over it because its just blatant fetish pandering and its certainly not going to go further than that

noooooow if this was the cover of a game that expected you to take it with any hint of seriousness...then that would be bullshit worth getting ones jimmies rustled over...

You mean to say you never loll about in your underwear making pouty faces and balancing a controller on your breasts? Like... never? Not even once?

Well, consider me heartbroken.

Seriously though, I'd guess that the heart of the matter is just the idea of someone, specifically a hot female someone, who shares your interests. Let's face it, gaming has its fair share of dudes who don't have much else in their lives. So the notion of a cute girl who likes the one thing you like is bound to have some traction.

I sometimes game without pants!.....

 

[Autumnflame]

It is abysmal that who ever created that magazine thinks this is what both male and female and other gender identities want in a magazine.

as a straight male gamer i find this magazine offensive to other gamers, women and the dignity of male gamers that the publishers trying to exploit

 

[ForumSafari]

Gamer Girls Magazine - Demeaning, sexist and racist!

Eh, I just can't get worked up about it. It's really not that bad. Speaking as a man who reads anything that he finds lying around it's not nearly as sexist and demeaning as any of the female-targeted mags I've read, whether that be Cosmo towards men or Hello and its' ilk towards women.

I see this no different than a calendar with sexy "firemen" or naked girls laying on cars or riding motorcycles.

Exactly, both sexes do this all the bloody time. This isn't particularly unusual.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

I refuse to accept this as anything other than satire. As such, I find it hilarious!

It's a porn magazine.
All these people acting shocked and aghast at a freaking porn magazine.

It is abysmal that who ever created that magazine thinks this is what both male and female and other gender identities want in a magazine.

as a straight male gamer i find this magazine offensive to other gamers, women and the dignity of male gamers that the publishers trying to exploit

It's a porn magazineeeeeeeee. Nobody's trying to pass it for real. OP made the mistake of thinking otherwise.

 

[elvor0]

I refuse to accept this as anything other than satire. As such, I find it hilarious!

It's a porn magazine.
All these people acting shocked and aghast at a freaking porn magazine.

It is abysmal that who ever created that magazine thinks this is what both male and female and other gender identities want in a magazine.

as a straight male gamer i find this magazine offensive to other gamers, women and the dignity of male gamers that the publishers trying to exploit

It's a porn magazineeeeeeeee. Nobody's trying to pass it for real. OP made the mistake of thinking otherwise.

Well I'd say they're at least /attempting/ to pass it up as real, clearly noone would be stupid enough to fall for it, but judging by the quality, I think they genuinely think this is what was being clamoured for. It just has this sense of some out of touch publisher engineering it on 80s Geek stereotypes. It even fails at being a Porn mag; I can see raunchier pics in any C-grade English newspaper. Or Google the subject matter.

This is more of a case of being "My god look at how crappy this thing is, point and laugh". Of course I don't think it's going to change peoples views or rock landscape. I Just think it's got freak show appeal...in a train wreck sort of way.

 

[Colour Scientist]

I sometimes game without pants!.....

It really is the best way to play.


*obligatory statement on the terrible magazine being terrible*

 

[Joey Banana]

Don't get the problem. It's just silly, immature PG-13 pornography. Nobody is getting hurt by this except the models' careers.

 

[Autumnflame]

I refuse to accept this as anything other than satire. As such, I find it hilarious!

It's a porn magazine.
All these people acting shocked and aghast at a freaking porn magazine.

It is abysmal that who ever created that magazine thinks this is what both male and female and other gender identities want in a magazine.

as a straight male gamer i find this magazine offensive to other gamers, women and the dignity of male gamers that the publishers trying to exploit

It's a porn magazineeeeeeeee. Nobody's trying to pass it for real. OP made the mistake of thinking otherwise.

Well I'd say they're at least /attempting/ to pass it up as real, clearly noone would be stupid enough to fall for it, but judging by the quality, I think they genuinely think this is what was being clamoured for. It just has this sense of some out of touch publisher engineering it on 80s Geek stereotypes. It even fails at being a Porn mag; I can see raunchier pics in any C-grade English newspaper. Or Google the subject matter.

This is more of a case of being "My god look at how crappy this thing is, point and laugh". Of course I don't think it's going to change peoples views or rock landscape. I Just think it's got freak show appeal...in a train wreck sort of way.

even if it is a porn mag. still not acurate portrayal of gamer porn

 

[Madner Kami]

Well there's nothing immoral about it. You're the one who bought up "moral policing" in the first place. Presumably you saw something that could be construed as immoral or you wouldn't have said it, I just bought it up as a "point and laugh" thing. And you can't do journalism without sensationalist headlines! Yeah I'm not gonna even try and argue that I wasn't being sensationalist.

That's bullshit argumentation. I didn't bring moral policing in, because I saw something immoral. I saw you (and by consequence a lot of other people in this thread) moral policing the magazine. Your very thread titel already displays plenty of moral statements and you clearly even realize that. Your flimsy attempt to hide behind "journalism needs sensationalism" is obvious and this statement is stupid in itself. Journalism needs fact delivery, not sensationalism. The later may sell better, but it doesn't make good journalism. Quite the contrary in fact.

I'm a gamer/geek/nerd whatever you want to call it, given the outdated, hackneyed content, I'm pretty sure I'm the target audience. Even if you only shrink that to the truely stereotypical ones, a big part of the stereotype these days is that they spend all their time AT THE COMPUTER. Why should they go to the shop to buy a magazine when they have all the high speed pornography in the world at their finger tips. It's like me trying to market Hugh Hefner this scaggy whore I found in an alley over his army of playboy bunnies.

Yeah it's made for whoever buys it, but who would that be exactly? Like I've said, the internet exists. You can literally type in "gamer girl porn" right now, it's free, and actually of much better quality photography wise and doesn't have that cringe inducing writing. You'd have to have absoloutely zero shame to buy something like this in the shop these days. I'm pretty sure I'd difficulty containing myself if someone bought it to the cash register.

You are a gamer, not the gamer. And whether that magazine is successful or not, is not your business but the magazine's. If it finds a target audience, then fine. If not, it's fine as well. Has nothing to do with you or what is displayed there and what other people's fetishes are or are not.

Lastly, I wasn't actually saying it was demeaning to the women in it. They're paid to do it, just as I don't find proper pornography to be demeaning either (given decent working conditions etc). No no, it's demeaning to the whole sub-culture of geeks and gamers. In that they think we're dumb enough or desperate enough to buy into this "magazine". Even the people that are desperate enough for this, doubtless have access to a computer and at least some form of internet. There's a difference between porn and this. Porn at least isn't saying it's real. This is just cringeworthy, I mean they could at least /try/ to create the illusion that these women haven't been handed a script written by a 13 year old.

Obviously this isn't going to colour anyones opinion on the sub culture, most peoples minds are made up, and the only people who'll actually connect this with the culture are people who hate it already. Well unless it flys off the shelves in droves, in which case I don't want to live on this planet anymore. Have some quality control for your pornography!

"Proper" pornography? Is there any sort of "improper" pornography? Look, you're morally judging and policing again and what quality? I'm certain there are people whose boats get afloat by the stuff portrayed in there and they have a right to get their fetish-fuel however and wherever they want, as long as nobody gets hurt in the process. If they want it from that magazine or not, is the magazine's problem. Not mine. Not yours. Not anyones's here.

I still maintain that calling the Asian woman exotic is an attitude that belongs in the 50s though, it's the 21st century, Asian people ain't exotic, there's quite a lot of them where I live of all shapes sizes and colours.

See, I got exactly 12 asian people in my vicinity. 7 of them are of vietnamese origin, the rest of chinese. I also got exactly 4 black people in my vicinity. 2 are adopted children, two came here as guest-workers somewhen in the 70s and stayed. Both blacks and asians are pretty exotic to me and they may be to quite a number of different people, too. Calling someone "exotic" is not an offense.

even if it is a porn mag. still not acurate portrayal of gamer porn

And who made you the prototype of every single gamer in the world?

 

[carnex]

It's an erotic magazine with a specific twist that happens to be something this forum is interesting. Whoop-te-do. Lets make it into something horrible.

Seriously, it's another erotic magazine. Nothing more, nothing less. Will it sell? Doubt it will reach significant sales after first issue. Next topic please, and please make it relevant.

 

[Flutterguy]

The term 'gamer girl' is used almost exclusively as a means of exploiting dumb male gamers to either profit or feel wanted. Is fairly successful and extremely easy to pull off.

Not surprised in the least of the magazines quality.

 

[Schadrach]

Dumb thing is dumb.

Really I don't see how there's any more mileage than that.

It's like a train wreck -- horrible but you just can't look away...

Perhaps at some day we'll reach the stage where the areola is fine, but the nipple itself is still out of bounds.

I'm picturing a kind of two-thimbles-and-some-cotton arrangement.

A female relative of mine (at the time a teenager) once read the indecent exposure laws in our area and suggested she might just decide to go out wearing Band-Aids or stickers covering exactly the area that must be covered and nothing more one day just to see who might complain.

 

[Schadrach]

I still maintain that calling the Asian woman exotic is an attitude that belongs in the 50s though, it's the 21st century, Asian people ain't exotic, there's quite a lot of them where I live of all shapes sizes and colours.

See, I got exactly 12 asian people in my vicinity. 7 of them are of vietnamese origin, the rest of chinese. I also got exactly 4 black people in my vicinity. 2 are adopted children, two came here as guest-workers somewhen in the 70s and stayed. Both blacks and asians are pretty exotic to me and they may be to quite a number of different people, too. Calling someone "exotic" is not an offense.

I suspect it's an urban vs rural thing.

For example, I live in a small town in WV. To grasp how low the population density is we have 1.8M in the entire state across 24,230 sq mi while NYC has 8.4M people in 468.9 sq mi, more than 4 times the number of people in less than 2% of the space. The town I'm from is ~1/2 square mile and has under 1000 people. 98.1% White, 0.7% African American, 0.4% Native American, 0.1% Asian, and 0.6% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 0.3% of the population.

The nearest city (or what passes for one here) to me would be the state capital of Charleston (largest city in the state with around 50000 people). From wikipedia: As of the census[2] of 2010, there were 51,400 people... The racial makeup of the city was 78.4% White, 15.5% African American, 0.2% Native American, 2.3% Asian, 0.3% from other races, and 3.2% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 1.4% of the population.

Compare to a large, urban city, say New York again: The city's population in 2010 was 44% white (33.3% non-Hispanic white), 25.5% black (23% non-Hispanic black), 0.7% Native American and 12.7% Asian.[4] Hispanics of any race represented 28.6% of the population.

As you get less rural in America, the population gets less white as a rule. Dramatically so.