Gamers Against Bigotry
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I'll just stick to responding to bigots with bigotry. After all, I can be far more inventive than most of them on the occasions I can actually be bothered to plug in my microphone (not often).
Aside from that, surely the best response is silence, concentration and killing them over and over again while they rage. Far more satisfying.
Aside from that, surely the best response is silence, concentration and killing them over and over again while they rage. Far more satisfying.
I don't see the point in this pledge. I'm obviously against bigotry, but how is signing it going to combat anything? Nobody is going to look at it and go "I won't be bigoted anymore", they likely know it's unpopular opinion but do it anyway.
Biggest problem I can see with this is that the only people who would take part are people who aren't into bigotry in the first place. It's not going to change anybodies mind on whether or not it's acceptable.
...or preference in games. ¬__¬chrason said:
Anyway, this sounds like a cause I could get behind.
Actually you've stumbled on the age old tactic of being bloody ridiculous in order to throw off your enemy long enough for you to win. Call them a f*** head and they'll just get pissed, call them a fish and chips without the malt vinegar and they're spending 2 minutes trying to figure out what the hell you just said instead of dodging air born death metal.chrason said:
I like this idea...
As hilarious as that sounds, I'm going to go no. There are times I wish the bar of intellectualism would be raised a little higher in online games, but really there is another option. Grow a thicker skin and remember to always imply that your opponents mother is waiting in your bedroom. Naked.
But do it so well worded that they barely even realize that's what you're saying.
Gamers will always eventually stoop to the lowest common denominator because there is no way to argue with it except to stoop to that level or not respond at all. You wait, they will wear a wise wo/man down.
If you stick to your own little group and stay strong it might work but... yeah.
Eventually I'd break.
I am weak.
But do it so well worded that they barely even realize that's what you're saying.
Gamers will always eventually stoop to the lowest common denominator because there is no way to argue with it except to stoop to that level or not respond at all. You wait, they will wear a wise wo/man down.
If you stick to your own little group and stay strong it might work but... yeah.
Eventually I'd break.
I am weak.
It sounds like a nice idea, but crucially, one that will only work if everybody agrees to play ball. By politicising and trying to regulate how people choose to curse, you're in fact lending more weight to the coarse language of idiotic 13-year old boys (and with the best will in the world, no amount of brow-beating is going to stop them being 13-year old boys, or idiots, because the two terms may as well be interchangable).chrason said:
Instead of setting up this lofty goal of inspiring a wholesale shift in the way we think about communication, why not just go through the usual channels of dick-avoidance? Play with trusted gamers on your friends lists. Use online communities to find like-minded people to game with. If somebody is a douche in-game, block them or send bad feedback. And if you think that some screaming adolescent might get a rise out of your gender or race... well, perhaps consider not telling them. Sometimes the mountain comes to Mohammed, other times Mohammed must walk to the mountain, or whatever the phrase is.
I agree. This sounds like it's just imposing restrictions by means of peer pressure, rather than actually educating ignorant people who have become bigots.Ryotknife said:
All the people saying "Why do we need this, this is dishonest and it won't do anything and anyone offended by these words should just grow a thicker skin" need to tell me- what would be so horrible about people NOT using racial slurs in the course of videogame chat?
What would we lose? What specifically would signing up to this little pledge forbid you from doing that is so very important? You can still insult people. You can call them fuckfaces, assholes, human waste product, shitstains on the heel of society, you can imply that you're having sex with their mother right now, or that you did the night before, or possibly are going to in the future. You can ask spawn campers what they learned in the 3rd grade today. (Well, it's summer, but you get the idea.)
The range of personal insults is so vast that not using race, gender, sexuality, or disability doesn't even cut out 1% of what you can potentially say.
And if you're not using those words already, you lose even less. You lose nothing. Nobody's freedom of speech is being threatened, there's no great art being endangered by this.
Why do you panic so?
What would we lose? What specifically would signing up to this little pledge forbid you from doing that is so very important? You can still insult people. You can call them fuckfaces, assholes, human waste product, shitstains on the heel of society, you can imply that you're having sex with their mother right now, or that you did the night before, or possibly are going to in the future. You can ask spawn campers what they learned in the 3rd grade today. (Well, it's summer, but you get the idea.)
The range of personal insults is so vast that not using race, gender, sexuality, or disability doesn't even cut out 1% of what you can potentially say.
And if you're not using those words already, you lose even less. You lose nothing. Nobody's freedom of speech is being threatened, there's no great art being endangered by this.
Why do you panic so?
well let me ask you this:Hazy992 said:
what do you do once you have the cheese?
mount the cheese.