I dont care about graphics but i was just stating that the graphics have aged horribly. Which is entirely OT. you want more? so have the controls and the Ai. On the playstaion 2 version anyway.iBagel said:
Games That Aged Horribly
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Sometimes it's not enough. What can i say... See for yourself - there are plenty of screenshots all over the 'Net. Alternatively - i encourage You to try and play that game. :]legendp said:
Jove said:
Blasphemy! burn the heretic!
what older games lack in standardized controls and visuals they often more than make up for with immersion. This is Something sorely lacking in many modern games which now over rely on visuals, fully spoken dialogue and other limiting modern standards.
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1.i wouldn't say mount and blade has aged badly,per se, its just surpassed in every conceivable way by war-band, and thus obsolete.
2.Dark forces, Jedi Knight 1... oh dear... The extensive use of accurate licensing in star wars games has rendered these two titles really, really awful. in jedi knight 1 your fathers house on dantooine is attacked by tusken raiders wielding bowcasters.... so wrong.. nerd spasm.
3. Die by the sword.. brilliant concept.... with no controls! whatsoever! just mash the numpad and pray!
I still love MoM too D:Akalabeth said:
I haven't been able to seriously play any of the Ultima series aside from 7. I hate 6's interface with a burning passion and everyone knows about 8 and 9
Any of the ones before 6 just feels like a chore now
Edit: I'd even go so far as so say MoM and MOO1 are my favorite DOS games...until I remember X-COM exists
Yeah, I am the total opposite. I still think Doom is the greatest shooter ever made and I can play it today and have a blast, especially with the massive community of fan made wads out there.MammothBlade said:
It was also the first game I ever played on PC back when it came out, so that probably colors my perspective.
OT: I find that almost all games that utilize 2D sprites age very well, whereas early 3D games do not.
I remapped my Doom controls to WASD, Space and the arrow keys to look around. Seems kind of clunky, but it controls more like a modern shooter with mouselook and lets you circlestrafe with ease. As for the graphics and gameplay? Didn't age one bit, still look great. And I didn't even play it when I was younger.MammothBlade said:
As for Deus Ex, the voice acting, terrible 3D graphics and stupidly low weapon accuracy turned me off fast. The choices and freedom are cool, but I only beat one level before getting sick of how flat out terrible it looked and sounded.
X-COM: UFO Defence is kind of in a class of it's own here, the gameplay hasn't dated and I can tolerate the graphics, but the UI is clunky as two printers having sex with a dump truck. Still fun though.
Diablo 2.
I know I'm going to get allllllllll kinds of hate for that, but it's true. I tried playing with some friends who promised it would be the best thing in the world... After playing for a couple hours I realized it was exactly like every other grindy RPG ever made.
It was like Borderlands but without the guns.
It was like WoW but without the people.
It was like War in the North but... Well it was exactly like War in the North except War in the North had Lord of the Rings to keep me entertained.
Seriously don't understand the love. It HAS to be full of nostalgia despite what the fans insist.
I know I'm going to get allllllllll kinds of hate for that, but it's true. I tried playing with some friends who promised it would be the best thing in the world... After playing for a couple hours I realized it was exactly like every other grindy RPG ever made.
It was like Borderlands but without the guns.
It was like WoW but without the people.
It was like War in the North but... Well it was exactly like War in the North except War in the North had Lord of the Rings to keep me entertained.
Seriously don't understand the love. It HAS to be full of nostalgia despite what the fans insist.
I also mapped the controls to WASD.Ninjat_126 said:
DOOM is just not interesting to me. The atmosphere, even the gameplay premise is totally unexciting. Shoot blocky demons on awful linear maps to find some stupid key so you can shoot more demons on more linear maps to find another key, ad infinitum.
Whereas in Deus Ex, you can interact with many objects and NPCs in the ingame world. It's not just about the graphics. If you have a little imagination and gameplay depth, something to work on, bad graphics don't matter that much. I can suspend my disbelief quite a bit. Though I agree that the weapon accuracy was at times awful, especially with the assault rifle. Of course, it depends on personal taste.
I find it really interesting how Deus Ex can be cited as both an example of a game aging well and badly. For me, when I first picked it up it was already seriously old (this was maybe two years ago). But I don't care. The graphics are functional enough, I can tell what object models are supposed to be and what characters are supposed to look like. I play with graphics mods now, but even then the changes are pretty minor. It's the open-ended approach to gameplay and the terrific story which continues to captivate me.MammothBlade said:
Nostalgia, definitely, but there are two other things:ilovemyLunchbox said:
1. Atmosphere. The game has an amazing soundtrack [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGTUz4OnzdM] and some great voice acting to go with its dark, gothic take on Middle Eastern oases and tropical paradises.
2. Loot. This isn't really a good thing - for the game, it is - but D2 has one of the rawest player-reward systems available in any game. Once you get comfortable within the game (luckily for you this proved tougher for someone entering the game so many years later) the process of finding better and better loot is insanely rewarding in how simple and refined it is. Get good gear. Find Magic Find to allow you to get better gear. Get better gear. Increase your Magic Find to find good gear even faster. Rinse, repeat, potentially into infinity. WoW dilutes this experience by providing diversions, ie. exploration, mini-game type quests, being social. In D2, it's at its purest and most dangerous form. There is nothing between you and better gear than better gear (higher MF).
I can understand those two things (especially the first, though that definitely doesn't make the game, but my problem with it in the modern day is that I've already done all of those things in your second point. I can definitely see the influence. Borderlands is basically Diablo with guns. I get it. Borderlands is fun. What isn't fun is if you take the guns away and age everything by a decade or so. Diablo 2 was probably loads of fun back in the day, but now, it's sort of pointless. I'm sure a lot of modern-day RPGs wouldn't be what they are without its influence, but that doesn't mean it's fun to play itself.pure.Wasted said:
Seriously though, have you tried playing Baldur's Gate? Fuck a game that lets you spec to be good with small or large weapons and then doesn't tell you what weapons qualify as such. I'm glad Diablo was around to influence mainstream RPGs.
