Games that make you ask yourself "Why can't i get better?"

[Puddleknock]

My initial thought was to say fighting games, but actually that's not true. I do get slightly better at them over time. I've never been good at them but I do generally get a little better as a play.

It is racing games where no matter how much I play I don't get any better. I got the wipeout game for free after the PSN ordeal last year. To this date I can't get past the first few races. This is not just on wipeout, I've played some of the F1 games where it shows you the racing line and pretty much tells you what to do....still finish outside the top 10 in a McLaren, sigh.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Certain fighting games I just can't seem to improve at like for example SF games. I for the life of me cannot use charge characters properly. Yes I do understand how to use them and how they and I can finish at least the normal training combos but I can't use them in fights. Others I am better with. I also can't get the hang of the counter attacks in DoA 4 but that might be because the AI is bullshit sauce for the final enemy.

Don't get me started on racing games. Well I do have fun on ones like Mario Kart where you can attack other drivers.

 

[StriderShinryu]

For those looking to get better at fighting games, and there seems to be a lot of them in this thread, I would recommend watching some UltraChenTV. They have a Youtube channel with their previous videos and do live stream shows on Monday and Tuesday evenings on twitch.tv Great stuff and they tend to cover a lot of what makes you a better (or worse) FG player without just telling you to spend more time training or practicing combos.

I don't know that I've personally ran into any specific walls lately. Way back in the old days there were games like the Ninja Gaiden series on the NES that I just could not beat no matter how hard I tried but now I find things more an issue of time/interest. I find that while my skill doesn't seem to hit a wall in improvement I do find myself just losing interest when faced with the time it would take to get better. The last fighting game I really put my heart into was CvS2 and I was routinely able to at least compete with the top dogs online in that game (though location kept me from doing much offline) but nothing had got those same hooks into me since.

 

[yunabomb]

SSF4. I can't do links... at all. I don't understand why I have such a problem with them.

 

[Angelblaze]

Every. Touhou. Game. Ever.

But hey, with escape zones the size of (As Yahtzee put it) A leprecon's testicle I think I do pretty darn good taking only 20 magic blasts to the face.

Also the survival mode on Recetter.

 

[Grygor]

Fighting games. I do much much better when I just spastically hit random buttons then when I try to execute actual techniques. If you're just a casual fan of fighting games, you better not be too competitive. People get way too good way too fast in them. I remember buying Marvel vs Capcom 3 last year just about a week after it came out. I played through the story/arcade/whatever they call it mode with three or four characters before trying some online matches. And I got destroyed. I started off with an online win-loss record of like 0 and 30. People would do some crazy shit, and then I'd later flip through the manual or try the tutorial mode. People were doing moves that weren't even in the manual. A week after the game came out.

Also, Bayonetta. I'm pretty awful at it. I didn't get over a Stone Trophy once...

Oh man i know how that feels . It took me 800 online matches to hit a win/lose ratio of 1 ( 50% matches won). Right now i'm at about 4000 matches and 63% of games won . I guess i put myself at a disadvantage by not wanting to use overused characters .

Also that bayonetta man .Speaking of witch ( see what i did there?) is 't bayonetta a capcom character? Why isn't she in umvc3?

*grabs the Bayonetta box*

Nope, Published by SEGA and developed by Platinum Games. Who i've never heard of before Bayonetta. She would be so awesome in a Capcom fighting game nonetheless...

She'd push the rating to like a 15/16 all on her own though XD

Platinum Games is the studio also responsible for Vanquish, MadWorld and the upcoming Metal gear Rising. It was founded by former employees of Capcom's Clover Studio (Viewtiful Joe, Okami, God Hand) after Capcom decided to close Clover down.

 

[Final First]

Warcraft 3 and every FPS I've ever played besides Red Orchestra: Ostfront '41 - '45 and Halo: Combat Evolved. I've never played the other Halo games so I can't say if I'd be decent at them as well or not.

 

[Plucky]

World of Warcraft, mostly inactive, but any attempt at progression usually entails me going into Dungeon Finder Groups for loot, right?

Wrong!

Im a mage, all i could do is fling some Arcane spells at stuff and hope things goes for the best, keep bumping into int/stamina gear but that's druid stuff, but i really can't rock the boat orelse id get kicked out, and replaced by some guy's friend.

Plus all my class allows me to do is DPS, so i couldn't really go the high road and be a healer and practically get kick immunity (due to rareness of finding one), had i have the foresignt to pick a class that could be all 3 roles like 3 or whatever years ago, probably would be marginally better.

PvP just sucks, rogues stun, turn invisible doesn't work since they damage with the dagger knife thing. generally id be dead in 2 or so hits.


So again for the 2nd time in a row, an expansion comes out even before i scratched the surface of the mid-end game, and an entire expansion's contents being considered as dead, but i guess the upside is that i can finally solo those PvE group quests with starter greens!

 

[Hazy992]

SSF4. I can't do links... at all. I don't understand why I have such a problem with them.

I'm in the same boat. I'm fine with cancels, but links? Nope.

 

[unstabLized]

Crossfire. Im usually a pretty good FPS player, but that F2P FPS game made my blood boil. -_- No matter what i tried or what i did, i would always somehow get killed by some guy with 200+ ping. I just quit after a while.

 

[Varanfan9]

Dawn of War Dark Crusade in online. I just don't know how people magically assemble their armies that fast. I'm ok if I'm on a team.

 

[jjjonesy27]

Counter-Strike Source and Team Fortress 2.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Pretty much every fighting game I've ever played.

 

[FrozenSkye]

Let's see, SC2, just based on the fact that I always seem to have resources just sitting around not being used. I'll end a match with lots of gas and crystals just sitting there banked. I prefer the old Age of Empires where you had to build up an economy while balancing tech and your army, and did way better than I'll ever do at SC2.

I wish I was a little better at League of Legends, I don't hit brackets or anything, but I can hold my own against most other players and that's good enough for me.

Final Fantasy games. And this one really bothers me, because I love FF games, and rpg's in general. I'll always start off really strong, make it halfway through the game and then hit this impossible wall, that even if I go back and grind the shit out of my party, still can't seem to win the fight without barely losing it every other turn. It's pretty embarrassing.

 

[The Wykydtron]

Fighting games. I do much much better when I just spastically hit random buttons then when I try to execute actual techniques. If you're just a casual fan of fighting games, you better not be too competitive. People get way too good way too fast in them. I remember buying Marvel vs Capcom 3 last year just about a week after it came out. I played through the story/arcade/whatever they call it mode with three or four characters before trying some online matches. And I got destroyed. I started off with an online win-loss record of like 0 and 30. People would do some crazy shit, and then I'd later flip through the manual or try the tutorial mode. People were doing moves that weren't even in the manual. A week after the game came out.

Also, Bayonetta. I'm pretty awful at it. I didn't get over a Stone Trophy once...

Oh man i know how that feels . It took me 800 online matches to hit a win/lose ratio of 1 ( 50% matches won). Right now i'm at about 4000 matches and 63% of games won . I guess i put myself at a disadvantage by not wanting to use overused characters .

Also that bayonetta man .Speaking of witch ( see what i did there?) is 't bayonetta a capcom character? Why isn't she in umvc3?

*grabs the Bayonetta box*

Nope, Published by SEGA and developed by Platinum Games. Who i've never heard of before Bayonetta. She would be so awesome in a Capcom fighting game nonetheless...

She'd push the rating to like a 15/16 all on her own though XD

Platinum Games is the studio also responsible for Vanquish, MadWorld and the upcoming Metal gear Rising. It was founded by former employees of Capcom's Clover Studio (Viewtiful Joe, Okami, God Hand) after Capcom decided to close Clover down.

Ohhhh so that's what happened to Clover. Thank you good sir!

I wondered what happened to them, good to know they're still in business. Okami was awesome, even though I doubt i'm halfway through it yet DX. I need access to a PS2 again stat.

I would have loved Vanquish if the demo didn't give me a proper migrane after 2 minutes. It's the only game ever that's managed to flair up my motion sickness... Bloody typical. A game about Rocket Shoes comes out and I can't play it. XD

 

[mooncalf]

DoTA style games do my head in, I played HoN for ages trying to get good at it but I'd always get ganked and yelled at by teammates.

 

[Sandjube]

Mount and Blade I guess.

On a related note, playing Fire and Sword and then switching to Warband is incredibly hard to get used to. The BEST person I saw at F&S is like your below average Warband player. Because all the F&S people never practice melee just sit on walls with rifles.

 

[Freechoice]

StarCraft 2. I'm stuck in Bronze, and no amount of Day9 can fix me. My APM is just never good enough.

Also a little on TF2. I really like the game, and occasionally floor everyone, but I never really stuck to one specific class... so I'm really average with all of them.

A chair and a probe.

That's all you need.