Deadpewl said:
Kurt Horsting said:
Daystar Clarion said:
A Street Fighter game without the broken as hell Shoto characters.
Shotos broken? You my friend, are a scrub. l2p. (hint, BAIT Shoryuken, and get free damage) and l2 footsie.
But in seriousness having a Guilty Gear or BlazeBlue game without a definitive bottom tier would be awesome. Basically Accent core if Bridget Johnny and Anji were mid teir as well. Aor What Continuum Shift is if Rachel and Noel where better. There obviously would be a top and bottom, but it should be hard to tell who belongs there. And I would much rather prefer to have a game full of broken overpowered characters (AC Testament,#r Eddie, CT Nu and Rachel) then empty slot, pointless to play characters (AC Bridget, CT Tager, CS Rachel).
Also, R.I.P. Rachel. We will miss you in CS.
To be fair Ive seen people absolutely rape with Tager.
4 characters are considered practically impossible match-ups, the rest are 6/4 against him, and he only has 2 even fights (himself and hakumen). He is considered by far to be the worst character in the game. Not completely useless, but your not going to see him win tourneys (not in japan at least).
He has 2 major problems They are he can't deal with people jumping in on him, and a huge exploitable hitbox. Just jump on his head and mash buttons, and learn to ib his slow as shit chains and you win for free. Ya, he can do 6k+ combos, but just play safe, lock him down and he can't fight back. And for the other point, you can do crazy long combos that dont work on anyone else (6k+ damage bnbs with Noel, weird pressure loops from Carl exploiting his standing hitbox, rejump loops with Rachel that hit for 5k+ that go into oki pressure. etc...)
Yes, he can rape. I have seen (and have preformed) 100% resets of doom. And B Tager buster and 720 do Crazy damage. But he isn't competitive. If he doesn't get momentum and keep it for the rest match, he will lose. He just can deal with pressure in a reasonable way. And his bad fights are REALLY BAD fights. Not, "if I try hard enough I can still win" kind of bad fights. I mean "you get hit once, you lose" kind of bad fights. Get hit with random D vs Ara, your dead. Vs. Carl, anything that he can 3c to IAD alle~can to Summon to Clap loop, and your dead (Almost everything he can hit Tager with can go into that). Get in the corner vs Rachel, and your dead. Fight a Nu with that knows how to bait and punish sledge and your dead. And for his non-impossible match ups, you can just jump on his head and get huge combos without him being able to fight back.
When it comes to character rankings, it is based on match-up vs the entire cast. In Tager's case, he has a -15 vs a cast of 11 excluding him. Basiclly the entire cast has a 6-4 against tager at least (except hakumen).It doesn't mean he can't win. Its just that he has a lot going against him.
What they did in CS is gave him head invulnerability on 2c (which is a lot faster, bigger hit box, and has fatal counter hit properties added to it) and atomic collider, so he has reasonable anti airs now. Also, his moves are faster, his hitbox is smaller and Gadget finger and 4d are fucking amazing moves. He still has his old problems, but its less stupid by a lot.