Games where you are the bad guy (but don't know it)
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Prototype is the only one that springs to mind for me, and perhaps Call of Duty: Black Ops although I vaguely remember that game.
But Prototype's Alex Mercer walked the fine line between Anti-Hero and Villian in a way I enjoyed.
But Prototype's Alex Mercer walked the fine line between Anti-Hero and Villian in a way I enjoyed.
Yeah, pretty much. But a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush. I'm grateful for the contributions I get.-Drifter- said:
I like the Mirror's Edge one, it's perfect, it so consistently sympathises with Faith and the Runners but really the game itself calls them out on exaggeration and NEVER says what is in the packages. And really, what do these "evil" police forces do? This authority seems to have made a really nice city, no sign of civil rights abuses nor anything untoward. It looks like a great place to live.
Well you play an "assassin" those aren't supposed to be "good" people.freaper said:
The thing is games that totally cast the protagonist as a sympathetic White Knight... but if you think about it they are the worst possible people in the world!
Leon Kennedy is supposed to be a white-knighting secret agent to save the President' Daughter from zombie cultist... OR he is an insane man with a gun going on a shooting spree in a sleepy rural village with delusions of grandeur.
Notice that Resident Evil 4 begins he is in the back of a police car! Is he being driven by the police on his mission or has he been ARRESTED and is deluding himself on the meaning of the conversation. It never shows a Scene of Leon being given orders by the President... just Leon reminiscing in Monologue that that is his mission... IT'S ALL HIS INSANE IMAGINATION! Remember, he was just a rural police officer, why would he be given such a mission?
It could be he grabs a gun off one of the cops and heads into the nearest village where his delusions take hold, imagining everyone is a zombie infected with parasites that control their minds!
You have to admit Resident Evil 4 is an insane situation, either Leon Kennedy is insane or EVERYONE around him is!
Especially the teleporting wizard in purple cloak that sells guns, you can't even describe that situation without sounding crazy.
I was gonna but you beat me to it.DaHero said:
"Were here to protect you from The Zone, not The Zone from you." I'm all for mining The Zone for its scientific value, but leave it to the professionals STALKERS. The Zone is not a toy. Especially when they kill each other over it.
Well, it seems not many people are too keen to read anything passed the title. Because if they were, they'd realize they weren't supposed to name ANY game where you are the villain. Just the ones that are presented as good, and in hindsight are HORRIBLE people.
I'd have to say Heather Mason from Silent Hill 3. Even after the possibility that the monsters you've been killing are actually just random people she's murdering, does that stop her? No.
I'd have to say Heather Mason from Silent Hill 3. Even after the possibility that the monsters you've been killing are actually just random people she's murdering, does that stop her? No.
The Pikmin series.
In the first game you're upsetting the Earth's eco-system in order to escape the planet, in the second you're wrecking everything for profit! To top it off, there's something sinister about the Pikmin. I mean, their bonding with Olimar, someone with the tactical mind to direct them, allows them to crush most other species! Not to mention the onion bulbs produce more Pikmin when you feed them the dead bodies of your foes!
In the first game you're upsetting the Earth's eco-system in order to escape the planet, in the second you're wrecking everything for profit! To top it off, there's something sinister about the Pikmin. I mean, their bonding with Olimar, someone with the tactical mind to direct them, allows them to crush most other species! Not to mention the onion bulbs produce more Pikmin when you feed them the dead bodies of your foes!
Yeah, it's all in the title. I may change the title but I can't think of a better way to phrase it in such a short way that still grabs people's attention. Can you think of one?waj9876 said:
Another game that springs to mind is Metal Gear Solid 4. Now I have played through the game three times now and it's still not entirely clear what is going on but it seems to be that Ocelot is trying to destroy The Patriots.
The Patriots are apparently an all powerful secret society that has usurped democracy and force the world into a constant state of war... and Snake is for some reason trying to stop Ocelot rather than help him. Then the final act a deus-ex-machina virus does the exact same thing but somehow better.
After MGS3 created so much sympathy for Ocelot, I don't get why Snake can't just join Ocelot and say "yeah, those Patriots are assholes, let's stop them... whoever they are"
But more disturbing that than is the ending. It shows snake with a gun in his mouth, it fades to black and you hear a gunshot. Then suddenly in the next scene Big Boss is there and tells him everything is great and all his problems are solved, answering every question... or does he. What if Old Snake ACTUALLY pulled the trigger and the entire rest of the epilogue is just a fantasy concocted by his brain that has just been shattered by a bullet. It certainly makes more sense than the actual explanation.
this, cause i see no other way to see it, that whole game was just one evil git VS a lot of evil gitsDoPo said:
I fail to see how big boss is the bad guy in 3 as he's sent in to destroy metal gear (a nuclear device that evil people are going to use to terrorize the world)daveman247 said:Wait what? Unless you mean the coop then fair enoughArtorius said:
Well in metal gear solid 3 and peace walker you play as big boss. So, yeah.
EDIT: Oh and pretty much any RPG in which the "hero" lets himself into a strangers house, interrorgates them for a bit and then proceeds to rob them blind "for the greater good of saving the land".
Ummm i can't specifically think of any that haven't been mentioned already!
Superman 64. In the greatest twist of all, you, the player, are the villain, because you chose to play the game (and possibly even purchase it), thus helping justify the greatest evil the video game industry has ever released unto the world.
...Really guys? Really? Not a single mention of NieR? Which is probably the embodiment of the idea of playing the unsuspecting villain.
You go around killing the Shades, who are the local mindless villains. Of course, near the end, you find out the Shades are the remnants of humanity and you are a malfunctioned body that was meant to host the Shades, but somehow developed sentience. As you beat the final boss, you cause the absolute end of the world, ensuring humanity to a slow and unfortunate demise.
Dark Souls would be an interesting one to discuss, especially considering that the nature of the story leaves so much open to player interpretation. From what I gather:
The fires effectively mean that nothing can die. The hollows you fight are driven mad by this. Centuries, maybe millennia of life, in a dead and broken body, unable to pass on peacefully. When you think of it, it must be hell. No wonder they hate those who look alive, those who have purpose.
When you reach the end of the game, you are given a choice. Do you rekindle the fading bonfires, or extinguish them forever? On the surface this is a choice between life and death, but really the choice is not so simple: do you continue the cycle, or plunge the world into darkness and allow the poor souls rest?
When you reach the end of the game, you are given a choice. Do you rekindle the fading bonfires, or extinguish them forever? On the surface this is a choice between life and death, but really the choice is not so simple: do you continue the cycle, or plunge the world into darkness and allow the poor souls rest?
The original Golden Sun... if you look at it in a reeeally obscure way. Your party tries throughout the whole game to stop the Elemental Lighthouses from being lit. Then you find out in the second game that they have to be lit otherwise the world will die an inevitable death. So in the second game the other party goes around lighting them all and it all ends fairly well, after you almost kill the world by STOPPING this from happening in the first game. Apart from the power-hungry dude gaining the power of Alchemy at the end and all, but ehh, you can't have everything.
