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Half-Life. It's not bad, it just doesn't hold my attention.

Oblivion. It's the same 10 x 12 miles copy-pasted over and over. Bland story, shite dialogue, glitches up the ass, horrible combat, etc etc etc.

Fallout. Better than Oblivion, a lot more expansive, but it's just so stale. I can only trudge through the same brown terrains and abandoned buildings, going slow-mo whenever i shoot a cretin's eyes out for so long til I would rather trudge through an equally brown bathroom break.

Borderlands. Most. Boring. Game. Ever. Dull and vague story, annoying characters, unimpressive terrain (not that I care, but the game world was a selling point). Just nothing made me want to play it any further than I forced myself to. Oh yea, the combat was crap too.

Halo. Yep, Halo. Don't get me wrong, Halo can be some of the most fun out there. I love playing it on Xbox Live until map packs come out and I stop (this happens with every release) and the whole series is just a big rehash of itself and it's tedious as hell.

Any Final Fantasy after X. They've just plain sucked.

Dragon Age 2. Boring, poorly thrown together story that does nothing to progress the series. Overly-simplified combat for what's supposed to be an RPG, lazy graphical work, most obvious being the franchised caverns. Just stupid sylistically. Uninteresting characters, insulting lack of expansiveness. And it just lies to you. I can't recall the two sentences often contained in its ad campaign, but it promised you become a bigger-than-life hero to the entire world in a grand and epic adventure. And you just fuck around for 15 hours in a town and a couple outlying pieces of grass
 

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krazykidd said:
Melon Hunter said:
krazykidd said:
Bioshock . I mean really , people talk about story and atmosphere . I just don't see it , i must not be hipster enough ( yeah i went there).

Silent hill 2 . Best silent hill game? I think not !( and i'm not talking about graphics nor controls).

Deus ex : HR. That game was so flawed and boring . I even made a thread seeking people to explain why that game was so great , nobody could . So either Deus Ex : HR was of an inexplicable greatness or it really wasn't as great as everyone said .

Come at me bros.
What have you done?! I freakin' loved Human Revolution; it was my personal GOTY for 2011. And I've spent the last ten minutes pondering why I liked it so much, and I really can't come up with anything concrete. I guess it was the first game I played in which the stealth mechanics really worked; I was actually able to sneak around an small army and leave no trace of my presence, which I loved, as opposed to most games with a 'stealth' mechanic, which doesn't work at all. I'm also a sucker for cyberpunk and transhumanism, and I loved the way the game tackled these social and political issues. But then again, that's a very personal reason, so... yeah. That's the best I can do.

OT: Skyrim. Got it for Christmas, and I can definitely play it and have fun, but when I look at my character, or at the wide world presented to me, I just don't... care. Fallout 3 and New Vegas had me much more involved in the world around me, and I felt genuinely disappointed when I had to shut the system off because there was always one more ruin to explore, one more hill to climb. Skyrim doesn't give me that same kick. Sure, it's pretty, but it
gets rather shallow as time wears on, when each cave becomes the same quest of 'enter, kill minions, kill big bad, grab loot, sod off back to town to sell said loot'. I don't have any motivation to finish it or even pick it back up again.
See , i told you . I asked the question about Deus Ex : HR .and most were as ambiguous as you . Ima edit this post and link my thread when i get home . Keep pondering , if you find a better answer lemme know.

Also 4 quotes already ... Oops?
Very well then:

Although this isn't part of gameplay per se, I believe this theme to be a very important one, that HR tackled in a very well measured way. We are hurtling towards a future where we can improve the human body with implants - but how does this play out against the world already in existence? We've seen that old corporations are already gunning for more and more control over the Internet and associated media; what's stopping them from weighing in on the augmentation business? Add this to the implication that people are encouraged to augment themselves without thinking about the lifelong implications of such a drastic treatment, and you begin to unearth a very disturbing trend.

The way the game portrayed the dependency of Augs on Neuropozyne was a subtle, yet very deep take on the fact that a perceived freedom such as cybernetically augmented limbs can actually lead to yet more control over you. Hugh Darrow's final, desperate plan showed just how easy it could be for augmented humans to be tampered with by malicious groups. The gangs such as the Motor City Bangers and the Harvesters, who augmented themselves for the sake of it, as opposed to any real need was another facet to this problem; exactly how is humanity going to deal with the new class divide of haves and have nots; those who can afford implants, and those who can't. Will the have nots turn to black market trade and organised crime? Could this be stopped if proper regulation was put in place to stop corporations muscling in on the profits and putting money before their customers? You had to read between the lines, but Human Revolution was one of the starkest reviews of transhumanism I've seen in a long time.

Now, I have to say that your criticism of the game is really rather ambiguous as well, so I'm not sure how much I can address your issues here. However - what I loved about Human Revolution was that it required thinking. Going in guns blazing was very likely to get you killed. Sure, you could take a lethal route, or you could sneak past everyone and never be seen. However, to do this, you needed to analyse the situation at hand. What weapons to use? What cover to use? Where do enemies patrol, and how will they approach me if I'm seen? Is there an alternative path with less resistance I could find? How can I use my augmentations to my advantage? This is what I loved. I dunno about you, but I found it really quite thrilling to get across a room without being seen, just by watching how the hostiles patrolled, and using cover in a smart way. There were always multiple ways to approach an objective, and none were objectively wrong; you just had to know how to manipulate the situation to your advantage. This is wildly at odds with most action RPGs and FPSs I've come across, which usually give you a bare minimum of choices, if any, to complete an objective. You might have a couple of different skill checks in New Vegas, or perhaps a conversation option instead of combat in Mass Effect, but these don't really compare to the genuine multi-path solutions offered by Human Revolution.

The augmentation system was handled well, although a little too generous with the Praxis points in my opinion. By the end of the game, yes, you could feasibly have most, if not all, of the useful augs unlocked, but in the run-up to this, the game gave you many set-ups for you to get through the various missions. You could beef up your dermal armour and recoil suppression for a combat-heavy Jensen, or perhaps put points into hacking, and invisibility for sneaking through the routes less traveled. There was plenty of choice, and most augmentations offered a genuinely useful boost for tackling a situation; some unlocked paths that would otherwise have been impassable. This also boosted the replay value; on my second playthrough, I picked a very different set of augs as I went through the game, and got a very different experience out of it.

Is that a bit more comprehensive?
 

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krazykidd said:
Bioshock . I mean really , people talk about story and atmosphere . I just don't see it , i must not be hipster enough ( yeah i went there).

Silent hill 2 . Best silent hill game? I think not !( and i'm not talking about graphics nor controls).

Deus ex : HR. That game was so flawed and boring . I even made a thread seeking people to explain why that game was so great , nobody could . So either Deus Ex : HR was of an inexplicable greatness or it really wasn't as great as everyone said .

Come at me bros.
Well, that's just your opinion. You're entitled to it and as such, I applaud you for having the guts to post such a comment like "Come at me, bro."

Good show, sir.

OT: Pong.
God damn, is that crap. No story, no characters, basic as fuck gameplay, the graphics look like a toddler vomited on it...it's just shit.

Oh, and you know what else sucks?
QWOP.
 

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Zydrate said:
Don't see why. It's like everything else.

Want perfect multiplayer? Go play Starcraft.
RTS =/= first person shooter. Not comparable :p
Unless that RTS is Dungeon Keeper who also mixes FPS by possessing your units to do even more evil fun stuff. However, thanks that NOBODY remembers this game i may never know if it is the best example ever and if not at least what could be done to improve it
 

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I was pretty underwhelmed by Bioshock. I didn't think it was a bad game, or anything like that... it just didn't live up to the hype and expectations I had for it as a long-time System Shock fan.snip
Indeed. Although I do differ from you on one point, I do think it is quite a poor shooter. I think the gameplay is better in many, many, other games.
 

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Unless that RTS is Dungeon Keeper who also mixes FPS by possessing your units to do even more evil fun stuff. However, thanks that NOBODY remembers this game i may never know if it is the best example ever and if not at least what could be done to improve it
Aww, now im depressed that such an awesome idea for a game does not exist :(
Think of the tactics and variety that could be created by having the "shift" ability in an RTS.

Although simply having a "commander" player lording it over his army of "players" online would also be awesome. Then again, when the players or leader turned out to be retarded, it would not be so fun :/
 

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For me it's final fantasy 7. Very likely due to the fact I attempted to play it 9 years after release.
Nah, I played it a month after release, and I don't see it either.

My list would probably be massive, considering the shift in gaming away from my tastes. A couple already hit: Bioshock, DXHR, Skyrim, for many of the same reasons.

Mass Effect and Fallout 3/NV. They were passable, but the amount of pure fap they STILL get is mind-boggling.

Arkham Asylum: Not bad, but not great. Got 99% in 12 hours without a guide (that last 1% was that one OMGFU trophy. You know which one I mean). Rental, maybe.
 

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So, everyone just forgot about GTA IV? Every reviewer that's not yahtzee gave it a 10 out of 10 for perfection. What do I get at the end? 2 shitty apartments and a small penthouse. They took out planes, parachutes, and most of the fun weapons. Not to mention they made the rocket launcher shoot a rocket that spins around and misses it's target 90% of the time. The stadium races and gambling are gone too. You can play pool, go bowling, play darts, go to a strip club, or go to a comedy or cabaret club that start repeating their acts after the 5th time you visit. Those are all nice, but where's the crazy shit? Well, it's in 20 dollar DLC. But of course. There's no tank to rampage in anymore, the closest you can get is a fire truck. Not to mention the game constantly feels like it wants you to slit your wrists, and I constantly fly out of the windshield in crashes.

They improved the graphics and physics and put in multiplayer, so I'll give them that. And the side activities are ok, but there's nothing really crazy besides random rampages that you can do when the story is finished. It's a solid game, but it's not perfect by a long shot, and the fact that the reviewers all inflated their scores to perfect disgusts me. It's dishonest. GTA IV is not perfect by any definition. It's just good. Just average. And were it under any other name it would have been reviewed as such.
 

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The Modern Warfare titles (not Call of Duty as a whole, as it hasn't been hyped enough to reach that threshold for me). Yeah, they've got a campaign story that seems to be the genetic superchild of every action movie, ever. Sure, the gameplay seems to be perfectly functional. Okay, the staggering online statistics for MW2 matches played should, in theory, construct a monument to its greatness.

But I just don't get it. It seems too bland and dreary to be that magnitude of appealing. I'm not asking for an explanation of any kind, as it doesn't seem like something that requires one. You shoot dudes using all the top of the line "realistic" gear our world powers can provide. But scratch the shiny polish off of the premise, and there's little more than an impersonal metal frame holding the thing up.
...I'm just going to stick with Halo, thanks. At least it's got a compelling EU and some glow-y sci-fi bits to go along with it.
 

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Definitely Dragon Age, I couldn't enjoy that game at all.

Also the Battlefield series, don't get me wrong I'm not saying these games are in any way bad, in fact I recognize them as great games, at least in the multiplayer aspect. However, I find it impossible to enjoy the Battlefield games, to me they feel devoid of any fun. Just my personal opinion, I don't believe they are as good as people claim them to be.
 

3 legged goat

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Mass Effect to me is super boring. Everyone seems to think that it is some sort of game made by God though. I just don't see it.
 

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GTAIV: OMG it was like some GTA game with Sims in a boring way. Loved GTAIII and San Andreas, but this was really bad for me.
Bioshock: It's good, actually there are some pretty good moments, I just wasn't that mind blowned.
Gears of war: The game might be good, but not awesome.
 

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Melon Hunter said:
krazykidd said:
Bioshock . I mean really , people talk about story and atmosphere . I just don't see it , i must not be hipster enough ( yeah i went there).

Silent hill 2 . Best silent hill game? I think not !( and i'm not talking about graphics nor controls).

Deus ex : HR. That game was so flawed and boring . I even made a thread seeking people to explain why that game was so great , nobody could . So either Deus Ex : HR was of an inexplicable greatness or it really wasn't as great as everyone said .

Come at me bros.
What have you done?! I freakin' loved Human Revolution; it was my personal GOTY for 2011. And I've spent the last ten minutes pondering why I liked it so much, and I really can't come up with anything concrete.
I liked it because it let me waste all my ammo tranquilizing homeless people and not get punished in the missions for not having any ammo.
 

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Gears of War (First one was good, others that followed just got more boring. 3rd game was so predictable I swore I was a psychic)

Halo (Most of the series, except the first since that was genuinely original for the time.)

Bioshock (Rather play System shock, that way I'd have a challenge.)

Everything Call of Duty ('MURICA! FUCK YEAH!)
 

Dangit2019

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Battlefield 3.

People act like the multiplayer is constantly amazing and interesting, but when I play it, things go pretty much like this.

1.Spawn at side of map farthest from objective.
2.Walk for about 5 minutes to the objective.
3.Get killed as soon as you walk in the vicinity of objective.
4.Repeat.

But I guess it's the "true gamer's" choice, so everybody has to like it or else.
 

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Skyrim.

It feels like Oblivion with a few rough edges smoothed out, a shitty(er) UI and new content. I'm having fun playing it but the praise this game got was way too high for what the game actually is.

Hell, no game would be deserving of that much praise.

At it's worst it was

OP: "Topic in no way to do with skyrim"
Some people "hurr durr arrow to the knee, isn't skyrim great?"

Commence circle jerking.

Maybe that's a bit hyperbolic... Anyway I'm glad the mods are fixing my gripes with it anyway, it is a good, fun game overall.
Thank goodness I didn't have to say this. Skyrim is the same 12X12 miles of J.R. Tolkiens backyard copy pasted AGAIN except for now there is snow.