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Dark Prophet

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So as the title says. I started to wonder about that because I have several games that I played through and I can see how they were good and in some cases excellent games but I just don't want to play them again despite the fact that I want to, if it makes any sense.

Today I finally picked up one of those. Deus Ex:Human Revolution
Other two that I really want to like but for some reason just can't are
Batman AA and Supreme Commander.
 

The Wykydtron

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Mass Effect 3. No question. Yeah it's a super awesome game with loads of cool moments but... I dunno, I suppose the space magic at the end still makes me depressed enough to not want to pick it up again.

Also Persona 3 FES, specifically The Answer. Lord knows what they were thinking when they designed that expansion...

"Ok, so the difficulty will be stuck on Hard, we'll disable the awesome anti-grinding system, put bullshit uninteresting bosses everywhere and the party AI is still passive-aggressively trying to kill you! Brilliant!"

I want to get all that story stuff in there but to be perfectly honest. No. Just no. Aigis can sit in that time trap thing forever as far as i'm concerned.

And the main body of Persona 3 was marred for me by the MC being an absolute unlikeable jerkface in a friendship based game and the aforemented party AI. It's because all the other characters are all balanced and awesome (<3 Aigis) that the complete lack of character development for the MC is ever the more apparent.

I don't even know my own character's motivations throughout the entire 50/60 hour game. I'm fairly sure he's a selfish bastard who is only in this "friendship" business for the max rank Personae. I have no evidence that he even likes his so called friends. I was looking for it believe me.

Yes, i'll get round to playing P3P eventually. Apparently it fixes all my complaints.
 

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The best game that I can't play, Fallout: New Vegas. So well-designed and written that I can't help but call it one of my all-time favourite games, but so technically broken that trying to actually play it causes me unbelievable amounts of stress. I can't even play Fallout 3 to fill the void, because Fallout 3 isn't as good and playing it just makes me even more depressed.
 

krazykidd

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The Wykydtron said:
Mass Effect 3. No question. Yeah it's a super awesome game with loads of cool moments but... I dunno, I suppose the space magic at the end still makes me depressed enough to not want to pick it up again.

Also Persona 3 FES, specifically The Answer. Lord knows what they were thinking when they designed that expansion...

"Ok, so the difficulty will be stuck on Hard, we'll disable the awesome anti-grinding system, put bullshit uninteresting bosses everywhere and the party AI is still passive-aggressively trying to kill you! Brilliant!"

I want to get all that story stuff in there but to be perfectly honest. No. Just no. Aigis can sit in that time trap thing forever as far as i'm concerned.

And the main body of Persona 3 was marred for me by the MC being an absolute unlikeable jerkface in a friendship based game and the aforemented party AI. It's because all the other characters are all balanced and awesome (<3 Aigis) that the complete lack of character development for the MC is ever the more apparent.

I don't even know my own character's motivations throughout the entire 50/60 hour game. I'm fairly sure he's a selfish bastard who is only in this "friendship" business for the max rank Personae. I have no evidence that he even likes his so called friends. I was looking for it believe me.

Yes, i'll get round to playing P3P eventually. Apparently it fixes all my complaints.
Isn't the japanese normal mode , the english versions hard mode? That might be the reason the answer has only one difficulty , hard ( which would be normal in japan ).

OT: Wild arms . The original . I really like 2-5 . But wild arms 1 is just so damn boring . I just couldn't bring myself to finish it . And i have finished my share of boring games. How did thos game even get a sequel ? Don't get me wrong , i rank the other 5 games amoung my personal favorites , and i'm glad the first game got sequels , i just don't understand HOW they did it?

And yet Legend of Dragoon failed to get a sequel , where is the logic?
 

Jfswift

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Oblivion. Even now I still feel it has beautiful graphics and a very indepth character building system and a decent story with lots to offer on the side as well. Despite all that.. I just can't get into it. I think my biggest issues are the insane enemy level scaling and how if create a bad build you're kind of screwed after a few levels and also how slow the leveling system is. It kind of reminds me of using the 'human' class in Final Fantasy Legend 2 on Gameboy (obscure reference I know) where it took nearly forever to level up attributes or skill based items (like martial arts). I hate that style of gameplay with a passion.

Also the Oblivion gates, although neat were all kind of repetitive. I cleared out four and they all looked the same.
 

The Wykydtron

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krazykidd said:
The Wykydtron said:
Mass Effect 3. No question. Yeah it's a super awesome game with loads of cool moments but... I dunno, I suppose the space magic at the end still makes me depressed enough to not want to pick it up again.

Also Persona 3 FES, specifically The Answer. Lord knows what they were thinking when they designed that expansion...

"Ok, so the difficulty will be stuck on Hard, we'll disable the awesome anti-grinding system, put bullshit uninteresting bosses everywhere and the party AI is still passive-aggressively trying to kill you! Brilliant!"

I want to get all that story stuff in there but to be perfectly honest. No. Just no. Aigis can sit in that time trap thing forever as far as i'm concerned.

And the main body of Persona 3 was marred for me by the MC being an absolute unlikeable jerkface in a friendship based game and the aforemented party AI. It's because all the other characters are all balanced and awesome (<3 Aigis) that the complete lack of character development for the MC is ever the more apparent.

I don't even know my own character's motivations throughout the entire 50/60 hour game. I'm fairly sure he's a selfish bastard who is only in this "friendship" business for the max rank Personae. I have no evidence that he even likes his so called friends. I was looking for it believe me.

Yes, i'll get round to playing P3P eventually. Apparently it fixes all my complaints.
Isn't the japanese normal mode , the english versions hard mode? That might be the reason the answer has only one difficulty , hard ( which would be normal in japan ).
Honestly I have no idea. There's only one difficulty in that expansion and that's Screwed Mode. However if there is some sort of extra hard mode out there in Japan I feel so sorry for them...

Anyway I think with The Answer they assumed that anyone who beat Persona 3 liked the combat and let's face it SMT games are renowned for their difficulty so sticking it on Hard for the expansion is probably fair game.

Well, it would have been fine if they'd have kept the S Link system... Or even contrive up some other anti-grind system if they can't fit actual S Links into the game storywise.

Persona 4 (also 3, for the most part) was never a grindfest unless you explictly decided you wanted a few extra levels for the lols, you can beat the game pretty damn underleveled if you learn the bosses well enough and dick around in the limo for 30 minutes trying new Persona combos.

The entire playstyle flies in the face of the rest of Persona 3.

Plus the failtastic party AI is always slamming my head off a desk every two turns because fucking Metris decides to Garu the wrong person or Yukari heals the wrong person... Again.

Those failed turns will fuck you over multiple times on the higher difficulties...

Actually forget the grind excuse, if I could assume direct control over my party i'm sure I would beat it with minimal grind regardless of difficulty. Alas Yukari is destined to heal everyone but me, Metris is destined to be the most unreliable person in the history of anything and Akihiko is... Well, Akihiko. Useless as always

I don't think I actually got to the point where Mitsuru joined. Y'know the only person in the game who never did the complete wrong move? Shame. She was pretty awesome. What with her never fail Mind Charge + Bufudyne combo Xinfinity
 

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The Mass Effect games, the first being the only one I tried. I loved Dragon Age, and when I played the first Mass Effect game it did feel similar in a few of aspects (like the character development and conversation mechanics). The seem like well developed games, and I'd heard so many people saying how good they are and worth a play through at least once.

But while I gave it an honest try, I just wasn't into it. There seemed like there were a lot of things I would enjoy as well, was so disappointed in my attention span.
 
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I would like to like Battlefeild 3 much more than I do. I bought it a few months ago with one of the dlcs for $60 total, and I dont even think Ive gotten 10 hours in. I mostly bought it because Bad company 2 was the best time I ever had in a game, but Battlefield 3 just isnt fun for me at all, wether I win or lose.
 

Palademon

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Persona 3, because of mild repetition, instant kill enemies, ages between plot, and the lingering fear that I'll irrepairably screw up time management on my file and have to start all the way back at the beginning.
 

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Ico. I've played it a fair bit with the hd collection but I'm far from completing it. It's just too frustrating getting knocked over for 10 seconds at a time while Yorda's being carried off and I can't move the camera to look around.

Batman Arkham City. The gameplay is solid but I think the open world nature is a detriment to the game. Gliding around isn't very fun, and I manage to get lost every time I play it. Also every time I play it I've forgotten what gadgets I have and what they do, so simple puzzles and things become very hard.

Ninja Gaiden 2. I like it but I made the mistake of taking a break and the late game difficulty makes it hard to get back into.
 

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The Wykydtron said:
And the main body of Persona 3 was marred for me by the MC being an absolute unlikeable jerkface in a friendship based game and the aforemented party AI. It's because all the other characters are all balanced and awesome (<3 Aigis) that the complete lack of character development for the MC is ever the more apparent.

I don't even know my own character's motivations throughout the entire 50/60 hour game. I'm fairly sure he's a selfish bastard who is only in this "friendship" business for the max rank Personae. I have no evidence that he even likes his so called friends. I was looking for it believe me.

Yes, i'll get round to playing P3P eventually. Apparently it fixes all my complaints.
I genuinely think it's amazing how the male MC comes across as such an arse whereas the female MC in Portable manages to come across so differently. I think it's just because even though she says nothing, she still exudes this bubbly, happy persona. It gives the ending far more emotional weight, I feel.

OT: God Hand. I desperately tried to enjoy this, but it just wasn't to be. The boring and terribly cobbled together arenas hurt my eyes and the combat just felt stale and dull. There's some wonderful mechanics behind it, and I do wish it had gotten some more love from the development team but I couldn't enjoy it in the slightest.
 

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There's no game I desperately want to like more, but smalltime Japanese strategy RPG developer Sting caught my interest with Atlus USA-published Riviera: The Promised Land and Yggdra Union: We'll Never Fight Alone - a time when Sting really liked subtitles, apparently.

Both games are more annoying than they need to be and absolutely, one-hundred percent require guides for a player interested in finding everything the games have to offer, which is bullshit for games that are exclusively portable, meant to be played away from where you easily access such things, but they were both interesting, unique, and more importantly, playable enough that the stupid auteur nonsense wasn't a huge detriment. Both bring something interesting and unique to the genre that's for their own good; Riviera is disguised as a standard Japanese RPG, but the combat is more strategic and entertaining than expected, and Yggdra Union is almost a hybrid between turn-based strategy, where movement is planned, and real-time strategy, where the actual battles take place.

Sting's latest two offerings, Knights in the Nightmare and Gungnir, are a different story, however. Both are so obnoxiously annoying and restrictive to play for the most part, blatantly flipping off the most basic of conveniences and good sense in game design, that they're hampered by their own pretentiousness rather than enhanced by it at all. I want to like them both a lot more than I do - they're both ambitious, well-presented, and have great soundtracks - but they do so many things wrong that a developer that's been around for a decade has no business doing, that I can't bring myself to appreciate them as much as I want to; bad game design is bad game design. And even while Gungnir is more playable and not as irritating as Knights, it's barely half-finished, with a bafflingly-short length despite having tons of reused maps, sprites, and tracks.

I was willing to consider Knights a case of tripping over one's own shoelaces, and every good developer is allowed a miscue, but Gungnir was one of the very few games I've bought without doing any research whatsoever ever on it. I was that willing to love it. But now it seems like Riviera and Yggdra Union were accidents, not the groundwork of a future great developer, making the only thing consistently enjoyable about them their soundtracks. They've been around long enough to know better at this point.
 

Angelblaze

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Microvolts, its a shooter mmo with cartoony graphics, but I just couldn't get into it.

Which is funny because I have to rip myself away from Halo and got pissed when my computer couldn't play Tribes: Acsend.
 

Crispee

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Mass Effect, Deus Ex: Human Revolution and Assassin's Creed.

In Mass Effect, I think the third person shooter gameplay is actually pretty crappy compared to say, Resident Evil 4. I rarely used things like the Biotic powers because they took too long to use and the tank sections are just irritating. I only carry on because I kind of care about all of the characters and story and the decision making bits. I'd much prefer Mass Effect if it was a book.

In Deux Ex: HR, again, I wasn't too big a fan of the first person shooter gameplay because most first person games give me headaches, the stealth aspects I used were kind of fun, just incredibly difficult to use exclusively because I was being nonlethal. And again only the story sucks me in, because it is a very interesting story, and I like the decision making parts, but again the gameplay parts don't interest me so it might as well be non interactive to me.

Assassin's Creed was like the first Xbox game I got when I got one last christmas, and I ended up not really playing it because as a noob to Xbox controllers, I couldn't get Altair to behave how I wanted him to. I ended up not progressing too far because I wasn't following the story all that much and wasn't certain how to kill people. I only go back occasionally because it's one of the big games that people are always telling me I'd like.

Most of the reasons I don't like them are my incompetence with the genres or controls really, but I still have some kind of reason for liking them, if only weak reasons. :p
 

Wayneguard

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Bioshock. I think I see what the fuss was about but it's just not entirely my thing. I will deem it "pretty good".
 

Mirroga

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I tried Fallout 3. I loved it. I love that kind of gameplay even though I tend to become easily broken with the right perks, strats, and weaponry. But cmon, the bugs and glitches are just ruining my immersion as well as my love for the game. It's now the very reason I tend to not play any more Bethesda games.

AKA I love it but please make the game have no bugs and glitches. I know it's possible.
 

Myndnix

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Minecraft. I can easily see that it's a very well-designed and creative game...but it's just not my cup of tea. No matter how much I try to get into it.
 

Necron_warrior

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Pokemon

I...I really want to get into it. I really do. But the thing is my friend has an action replay to skip all the trademark grinding of pokemon games and catch event-only pokemon. The fact that I feel ...ugh at the fact that she cheats and will still have more pokemon and enjoyment out of it just makes me not want to play :p