Games you desperately want to like more than you do.
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You mean aside from all the times Mitsuru used Marin Karin/Tentarafoo?The Wykydtron said:
OT: Dragon Quest 8. It did a lot of nice things, but it also asked for a lot of grinding and made the only enemies worth grinding very hard to kill, very rare, and capable of fleeing from battle.
I was like this towards Dead rising 2 at the start, but the game grew on me enough so that I legimatly like it by how it really is and found my own way to fix the annoying/bad stuff it has (such as the insanely slow walking speed, for one). By now I have played 2 twice and off the record 1 as well. It also dosnt hurts that off the record fixed a lot of stuff by itself, such as checkpoints 
I also quite like the soundtrack.
Actual examples... I cant think of one. Maybe Just Cause 2, but I think I will just plain quit playing that one, it seems like I just cant get into it.
I also quite like the soundtrack.Actual examples... I cant think of one. Maybe Just Cause 2, but I think I will just plain quit playing that one, it seems like I just cant get into it.
Mass Effect 3: If the story was better than I would like it more (this extends beyond the ending).
Borderlands: Shooting things with lots of cool guns, but why is it so boring?
Fallout 3: A good environment but it's extremely slow paced.
Borderlands: Shooting things with lots of cool guns, but why is it so boring?
Fallout 3: A good environment but it's extremely slow paced.
Fallout 3.
I wanted to love it, but I hated it. Gameplay, story, setting and not to mention the glitches. It just didn't work for me.
I wanted to love it, but I hated it. Gameplay, story, setting and not to mention the glitches. It just didn't work for me.
The Answer was really stupid and I have no idea why it exists. Really. I'm honestly wondering why they felt the need to do this. It does nothing for the plot, and it's one giant grindfest.The Wykydtron said:
But really, you know that Persona has a reason for totally undeveloped protagonists, right? It's because they're going for the author-insert "The Fool" neutral character. The MC isn't *supposed* to have a personality; everyone else is. That's the point. It's part of the way the game works. You are supposed to determine your character's motivations; that's what the social links are *for.* (And yes, I've seen a number of people determine that he's just a sociopath who tells people what they want to hear because it's the most efficient way to gain power on the other side. This is a very valid thing to put in a game.) They slightly sabotaged the "make your own character" thing by having a very obvious Optimal Strategy, because only making people happy will reward you with better stats, etc., but the idea is still there. Persona 4 has the same problem, unless you were distracted by Dojima and Nanako and didn't notice that they're the sweet frosting slathered thick on the very plain cake that is the MC's situation. He still has no personality and no real direction. I mean, the reason he can fuse so many Personae (the *whole complex mask you show other people*) is because he's a chameleon, and his personality can be *anything.*
Anyway, my pet theory is that the MC is actually not even a real person. He's a creation of fate, kind of like Pharos basically was, and he comes along like a spirit sent to Earth to deal with the Persona problems, and because he's just a construct, he's an empty vessel. He didn't *really* come from a city far away where his parents had to move away for a year so he was sent to his uncle's. He didn't *really* move here and then die for everyone just out of coincidence. He's here the same way any of the other baddies are here: because humanity's subconscious knows about and needs a Hero Figure, someone to Fix The Situation, someone who can Do Anything When Necessary. And that's the MC. There's a reason that he dies or moves away at the end of the games...
Unfounded, but I like it.
The party AI was pretty good for me, though. Not sure why you're having so many problems with healing.
As for games I really should like more than I do -- wait, wasn't there a thread about this like two weeks ago? Oh well -- I'd have to say Skyrim.
I wanted to like Skyrim. I did. I tried super hard. I even made an adorable Khajiit kitty character that shoots fire. Fire and cats, right? And shouting like dragons? So why did I spend maybe 10 hours on that game, then switch to Kingdoms of Amalur and spend 40 hours in a game with less awesome graphics and an arguably less awesome world?
I would also say Mayonaka Arena, but I know why I haven't been playing it: because *no one likes fighting games anymore.* At least, no one I know in real life and can actually play with, because playing multiplayer fighting games online is lame. I want a bunch of people on a couch playing together.
Mass Effect 3, easily.
Before I played it I'd have readily called myself the biggest ME fanboy in existence, honestly. I played through the first two something like six times each.
But throughout ME3 I had all these nagging moments of things that I didn't like, from dialogue sections that were poorly written, decisions made earlier that had no point, the lack of choices in so many areas, my Shepard saying things that completely contradict the character as I imagined them.
I don't know, something just felt "off" with the last one. The atmosphere felt different somehow. I think they just didn't have a coherent idea of where they wanted to go with it in the end.
At first I couldn't get into Skyrim at all. I tried liking it and just felt kind of bored. I then left it for a couple of months and managed to get into it properly.
Before I played it I'd have readily called myself the biggest ME fanboy in existence, honestly. I played through the first two something like six times each.
But throughout ME3 I had all these nagging moments of things that I didn't like, from dialogue sections that were poorly written, decisions made earlier that had no point, the lack of choices in so many areas, my Shepard saying things that completely contradict the character as I imagined them.
I don't know, something just felt "off" with the last one. The atmosphere felt different somehow. I think they just didn't have a coherent idea of where they wanted to go with it in the end.
At first I couldn't get into Skyrim at all. I tried liking it and just felt kind of bored. I then left it for a couple of months and managed to get into it properly.
Not desperately. But I still can't believe anyone liked DA:O. What a tedious, ugly, unfunny letdown. But people like all sorts of things. Like MMOS. And anything else that isn't one of those two or three worthwile games in a couple of years. I guess I don't like games. Because they're not good.
Persona 4. I enjoyed it just fine up until Yukiko's Castle. I hated the (apparently) randomly generated dungeon, I felt the battle system was uninspired and dull, and then this one monster pops out of nowhere to pretty much one shot me. I didn't play further than that.
Yeah, gameplay killed Persona 4 for me.
Yeah, gameplay killed Persona 4 for me.
I can't say Persona 4 has the same problem simply because through the dialogue options do change in personality throughout the game. I can safely say that one of the biggest reasons why the P3 MC comes across as a complete bellend is because the option to say "I don't care" comes up an ungodly amount of times.Aurora Firestorm said:
There's something different with the P4 MC, it all comes down to how they both feel different. Yes they both dick about in other people's business to max out S. Links but it always felt like the P4 MC was doing it because he genuinely wanted to help and the powerups were secondary.
The P3 MC always has an air of apathy about him. It feels like he'd much rather be doing something else instead of wasting time on this Social Link bullshit.
As for giving them their own motivations I honestly couldn't even think of one sole reason why the P3 MC isn't halfway across the world not giving a fuck. He has zero motivation to be there at all. I can't even think one up even after all those Social Links. That's how much of a complete sociopath he comes across as.
I can't even say that he wants to win to save himself from Nyx because the "destroy the entire world" bit only comes in about three quarters of the way through the game.
To sum things up:
I care about these characters but my player character couldn't give two fucks so it creates this horrible split between us where i'm loathing my own character for being such a dick. While all the characters can't seem to grasp the fact that my character secretly hates them.
So all the "good job man, you're such a bro" comments from the rest of the cast only further enrage me over my characters lies of friendship
You know why I cried at the ending? Not because the MC died, I really never cared about that. But because he was leaving poor old Aigis alone when she fucking needed him.
What a bastard
What a bastard
Fallout 3
I love, FO: New Vegas, I have over 20 character, have explored every inch of the Mojave, sided with everyone and myself, hunted down rare weapons and spent three hours searching for the right hat to fix my favourite heat gear.
I've started Fallout 3 six or seven times now, and lose interest as soon as I get to Megaton
I love, FO: New Vegas, I have over 20 character, have explored every inch of the Mojave, sided with everyone and myself, hunted down rare weapons and spent three hours searching for the right hat to fix my favourite heat gear.
I've started Fallout 3 six or seven times now, and lose interest as soon as I get to Megaton
Borderlands
Everyone goes on about how great it is, but all of the drab scenery/music make me so bored! What a waste of $30...
Everyone goes on about how great it is, but all of the drab scenery/music make me so bored! What a waste of $30...
Keep at it, I got hung up somewhere in Mexico too. Just try to power through it, it get's better again in Blackwater.MBurdock said:
Mass Effect the First. I just can't get into the plot because nothing much seems to happen for the first six hours or so of what I understand to be an amazingly long game. The dialogue isn't as groundbreaking or memorable as I've heard it is, and the less said about the game's combat the better...but this also means I can't show my face around any English-speaking gaming boards because all of them hate JRPGs, which I happen to prefer.
You may not believe this, but I would love to read that. Seriously and honestly.Mikeyfell said:
The game I pick is Shadow of the Colossus. I mentioned this in another thread, but I actually feel guilty when I play it and don't feel like I'm having fun or exhilaration or any of those immersion and joy kinda feelings. I feel like I can predict the whole game, that it just goes in a loop with the minor variance being how the next colossus is killed, and that the controls are kinda wonky and Wander never really does what I'm directly telling him to do with the controller. Also, I've shot all kinds of lizards and never got an upgrade to my health/stamina.
I pleaded this in an another thread, but I would LOVE for someone to tell me what I'm not getting or how I should be approaching it, because everyone and their dog is in love with it and it's the first reflexive response to the "are games art?" question.
Mikeyfell said:
I want to read that too
for me it would be the total war series I own three of them and everything tells me I should love it heck the idea of the game excites me but when i go to play it I get bored and barley make an hour per setting
