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Misterian

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Okay, you have games you like and you have games you hate.

But what about games that sit in the middle of that scale?

For me, it would Dragon Age: Origins.

My mixed thoughts on it were mostly gameplay-wise, the combat, while I don't think it's the worst combat system put to a game, I did find it rather clucky, at least when I'm not playing as a Mage.

When I go as the more melee-based warrior or rogue, while it's nothing too frustrating, but my character sometimes as difficulty stay on one foe, I just press the A button once, and chances are my Human Noble Warrior Warden might move away from the enemy even when said bad guy isn't dead yet and is the only one left alive, I keep having to press A repeatingly to keep my Warden on one target. And do I have to tell you how tired it can get to hear the human Warden repeating say "It Shall Be Done" or "It Has Begun" over and over again?

I later went as a Dwarven Noble who specializes on Archery, but that was even worst. Much of the time my Dwarf wouldn't even hit the target when it's charging right at him with nothing in his way, he'd just run around like an idiot most of the time no matter how many times I press the A button, so I gave up on that playthrough.

It was when I played as an Elf Circle Mage when combat became not only frustration-free, but actually alot of fun, I could just bombard clusters of Darkspawn with my magic while my companions help deliver the finishing blow, plus, fighting the ArchDemon was suddenly alot easier since I don't need to reach for a far-away balista where my companions for some reason don't want to follow me toward, as I can simply use the Inferno Spell to roast that big bad dragon and fend off the Darkspawn backing him up while I wait.

Story wise is also a mixed baggage, but to a different degree. I like the characters, especially the companions, as most of them have interesting dialogue and have quite few things about them that stick out.

On the other hand, there are still few of them that I found thoroughly unlikeable, but mainly because they come across as straight-up jerks that do jerkish things with 'reasons' (that you could argue were mere excuses) that didn't even make sense to me.

though to be fair, I suspect much of that was intentional coming from Bioware, especially since they're trying to go the for the 'Dark Fantasy' approach. And while it does mix the realistic elements of Medieval Times (which also, to be fair, wasn't all sunshine and bunnies) mixed with the Tolkien-esique fantasy setting. And while I do have problems with that, It's clear I must mainly like it if the fact I'm on my third playthrough is any indication.
 

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Dishonored.

The gameplay is awesome and the powers and upgrades are a lot of fun, but the game is just too short and the story and the majority of the characters are very bland and uninteresting. I don't regret playing it, but I do regret paying 60 euros for the game.

I recommend the game only if it came down to budget price ... and they threw in another better game ...... and some cake ......... and Belgium! *

[*Sorry Yahtzee]
 

aguspal

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Minecraft.



Now, I know about games that were good or mediocre or whatever but had potential to be something more.

Minecraft is the DEFINITION of this. So much wasted potential... It could have been an adventure game with maybe some rpg elements and loot thorow in... but NO. What does the game wants me to do? Build pixel per pixel a house made with blocks that I could have done in one of those desing programns anyway with no grind at all!!! LOL I honestly dont know how Minecraft got all its reputation... It should have been one of the greatest games so far, but instead its just the mediocre thing that we have now = FAIL.


To be fair thougt, theres not much of an improvement with how it is now. Maybe a Minecraft 2 (That is never going to happen of course) would of fix all of this, but theres no way that could happen... never ever.
 

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aguspal said:
Minecraft is the DEFINITION of this. So much wasted potential... It could have been an adventure game with maybe some rpg elements and loot thrown in... but NO. What does the game wants me to do? Build pixel per pixel a house made with blocks that I could have done in one of those designing programs anyway with no grind at all!!! LOL I honestly dont know how Minecraft got all its reputation... It should have been one of the greatest games so far, but instead its just the mediocre thing that we have now = FAIL.
Alright, so I don't say this often nor do I ever say it unqualified. But if you went into Minecraft expecting a true "game", you are pretty much doing it wrong. The whole idea behind Minecraft is that it is organic gameplay at it's most concentrated. There are no rules or guidelines beyond the basic parameters and mechanics and there no objectives besides the ones you set yourself. At the same time, it /does/ feel more like a creativity toy with monsters and swords thrown in. But at its heart, Minecraft is what you make of it.

Alright, for me, I'd say post-MW Call of Duty. I loved the original Modern Warfare. It remains one of the most subversive war shooters out there. At the sane time, the rest of the MW series and Treyarch's titles also have the same tight gameplay controls that make the games fun to play and, while somewhat ludicrous and damning CoD4 by association, the stories can be enjoyable in a B-movie or MST kind of way. So they're enjoyable, but the fact remains that I'd never pay for one because of Activison's shit that they love to pull. To this date, I've either borrowed or was gifted every single post-MW CoD. So I guess in the end they still get money for the crap they pull, but at least it isn't mine.
 

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lithiumvocals said:
aguspal said:
Minecraft is the DEFINITION of this. So much wasted potential... It could have been an adventure game with maybe some rpg elements and loot thrown in... but NO. What does the game wants me to do? Build pixel per pixel a house made with blocks that I could have done in one of those designing programs anyway with no grind at all!!! LOL I honestly dont know how Minecraft got all its reputation... It should have been one of the greatest games so far, but instead its just the mediocre thing that we have now = FAIL.
Alright, so I don't say this often nor do I ever say it unqualified. But if you went into Minecraft expecting a true "game", you are pretty much doing it wrong. The whole idea behind Minecraft is that it is organic gameplay at it's most concentrated. There are no rules or guidelines beyond the basic parameters and mechanics and there no objectives besides the ones you set yourself. At the same time, it /does/ feel more like a creativity toy with monsters and swords thrown in. But at its heart, Minecraft is what you make of it.

Alright, for me, I'd say post-MW Call of Duty. I loved the original Modern Warfare. It remains one of the most subversive war shooters out there. At the sane time, the rest of the MW series and Treyarch's titles also have the same tight gameplay controls that make the games fun to play and, while somewhat ludicrous and damning CoD4 by association, the stories can be enjoyable in a B-movie or MST kind of way. So they're enjoyable, but the fact remains that I'd never pay for one because of Activison's shit that they love to pull. To this date, I've either borrowed or was gifted every single post-MW CoD. So I guess in the end they still get money for the crap they pull, but at least it isn't mine.
Yes, Minecraft is pretty much a toy you have to work around to get enjoinament of- at least thats how I see it. Why should I WORK to get fun? I thougt games were about fun, not about trying to work in the game itself to find it. Honestly, that sounds like lazy BS. I can underestand the appeal to a CERTAIN extent, but its still amazing how Minecraft is such an acclaimed game. Honestly I feel it gets a lot of undeserved credit, but opinions and all of that stuff.



Like my opinion that the best COD is MW2. Ha. I bet no one here agrees with that, but opinons.
 

lithiumvocals

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aguspal said:
Yes, Minecraft is pretty much a toy you have to work around to get enjoinament of- at least thats how I see it. Why should I WORK to get fun? I thougt games were about fun, not about trying to work in the game itself to find it. Honestly, that sounds like lazy BS. I can underestand the appeal to a CERTAIN extent, but its still amazing how Minecraft is such an acclaimed game. Honestly I feel it gets a lot of undeserved credit, but opinions and all of that stuff.
Do you ever remember playing make believe with your friends? Running around, pretending you're about to slay a dragon or do battle with filthy pirates? You had to make your fun and think up ways to make it exciting. And it feels all the more rewarding because you're doing it all by yourself. That's what Minecraft is going for, if that makes any sense.
 

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lithiumvocals said:
aguspal said:
Yes, Minecraft is pretty much a toy you have to work around to get enjoinament of- at least thats how I see it. Why should I WORK to get fun? I thougt games were about fun, not about trying to work in the game itself to find it. Honestly, that sounds like lazy BS. I can underestand the appeal to a CERTAIN extent, but its still amazing how Minecraft is such an acclaimed game. Honestly I feel it gets a lot of undeserved credit, but opinions and all of that stuff.
Do you ever remember playing make believe with your friends? Running around, pretending you're about to slay a dragon or do battle with filthy pirates? You had to make your fun and think up ways to make it exciting. And it feels all the more rewarding because you're doing it all by yourself. That's what Minecraft is going for, if that makes any sense.
Yeah I understand what you are saying...
But what I mean is that -IMO- its lazy than the game expects you to get the fun yourself. It solely relies on that without helping you by, say, adding random quests, something to do, ANYTHING other than just mindlessly placing blocks in random directions.


The whole nether thing and whatever its a start, but it just kind of stopped there...Maybe you are right and Minecraft should stay like it is now. I would just love a game thats like Minecraft but less... oriented towards creativity and had more substance by itself.

Oh well. At least the first few hours in the game- Trying to figure out how to build my shelter, getting to explore the caves and getting the diamonds and all- were pretty damn fun and interesting. Shame thats all the game got for me, it kind of stopped dead there.
 

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aguspal said:
Minecraft is the DEFINITION of this. So much wasted potential... It could have been an adventure game with maybe some rpg elements and loot thorow in... but NO.
I think it's great concept for people who want to construct something inventive in a survivalist setting; unfortunately I don't think I'm creative enough to keep continuously building. With nothing to strive for except bigger architecture it started to feel like everything was for its own sake.
 

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Assassin's Creed

It's a good game, but, after a while, it get's repetitive, and I just get really bored of it, so I leave it alone for a few months, then I come back to it and enjoy it for about a week. Rinse and repeat. It just starts to feel like the same thing over and over. Also, I disliked the whole Desmond thing.
 

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Starcraft 2:
It's a great game. The best RTS I've played so far, most likely. (Tiberian wars was awesome too, but soooo unbalanced) The game is easy to start with, hard to master. And there's always a level of skill in the community that will suit your needs.

Problem is...I don't like it. I don't like the single player campaign, as it feels like I'd get 10x more enjoyment out of it was it a 3rd or 1st person shooter. Furthermore the online community is too competitive for me. I do not enjoy micro-managing and sticking to specific builds having to do things down to the second to be able to win a few games every now and then.