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I think that we can all aggree on this forum that videogames are great. They're a fun hobby to have and enjoyable to play. But I think we all have one game or another, that we love, that can be a bit cringe-worthy sometimes. This generally doesn't mean that the game is bad by any stretch of the imagination, but it can lead to some rolled-eyes.
This can happen for a variety of reasons. It can be a storyline that's obnoxiously preachy about about certain aspects, an issue of rather blatant fanservice or just a particular level or game mechanic, whose sole purpose is to artificially stretch the gametime. Really anything that has made you cringe or roll your eyes about a game that you generally really like.
My personal example will be Risen 3. I loved the Gothic games, I loved the first Risen and I loved the third Risen game. No other game has managed to do exploration and discovery quite as fun as these games. Coupled with a good sense of humor here and there and you get a fantastic experience.
The second Risen game however was quite poor in a lot of cases, with a much more linear scope than previous games, a larger focuss on a pretty poor story and pretty big balance issues (The moment you get a rifle, the game might as well give you the win right there because nothing will be able to defeat you at that point).
But theres one thing that the game did rather well, or rather one person that it did rather well and that is Patty. Patty is pretty badass pirate and a fighting companion of yours for a large part of the game. She's also a bit of a love interest but the game interestingly never lets you actually hook up with her. Which makes sense because in the context of the game she just has better things to do. She also looks very fitting for her part.
Now the same character appears in Risen 3. Though this time she looks like this.
Which at that point just seems like obvious pandering since she looked very different in the previous game. She looked sort-of similar to this in Risen 1 (At least in the chest area), so it might be that the developers wanted to get back to this since Risen 2 wasn't too well received, but the reason she looked that way in Risen 1 was that all women looked that way in Risen 1. They only had 1 female model in that game.
It would make sense if they wanted to set her up for a real romance option in the third game and wanted to make her sexier for that purpose. But that's not even the case. In fact your playing a different hero in Risen 3. A hero who's the brother of Patty. Yes, the character in Risen 3 with her massive breasts hanging out is your sister.
Great, just great.
I think that we can all aggree on this forum that videogames are great. They're a fun hobby to have and enjoyable to play. But I think we all have one game or another, that we love, that can be a bit cringe-worthy sometimes. This generally doesn't mean that the game is bad by any stretch of the imagination, but it can lead to some rolled-eyes.
This can happen for a variety of reasons. It can be a storyline that's obnoxiously preachy about about certain aspects, an issue of rather blatant fanservice or just a particular level or game mechanic, whose sole purpose is to artificially stretch the gametime. Really anything that has made you cringe or roll your eyes about a game that you generally really like.
So sexism in videogames has been a pretty big talking point in recent years. And while I personally think that the majourity of outrage-cases against sexism have been exagerated and are pretty silly, I do admit that there are some cases were there are some problematic elements in the games we play and love.
So what I would like to know from you guys. Are there any games that you personally like or love, were you can freely admit that they are kind of problematic in some form or another.
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To clarify what I mean in this case: I am not talking about any major offences here, like Ride to Hell Retribution or anything. It doesn't have to be anything really offensive, just maybe something that's overly pandering or something similar. To give a well-known example would be the Miranda Ass-shots in Mass Effect 2. It's not something that "RUINS THE GAME!", it doesn't make the game bad. But it's something that's a bit cheap and maybe makes you roll your eyes when you look at it. It still doesn't mean that it or the game are absolutly bad and should be removed. Just something that's cheesy or pandering that you noticed.
Wow, it's really hard to explain this precisely when English isn't your first language.
So what I would like to know from you guys. Are there any games that you personally like or love, were you can freely admit that they are kind of problematic in some form or another.
EDIT:
To clarify what I mean in this case: I am not talking about any major offences here, like Ride to Hell Retribution or anything. It doesn't have to be anything really offensive, just maybe something that's overly pandering or something similar. To give a well-known example would be the Miranda Ass-shots in Mass Effect 2. It's not something that "RUINS THE GAME!", it doesn't make the game bad. But it's something that's a bit cheap and maybe makes you roll your eyes when you look at it. It still doesn't mean that it or the game are absolutly bad and should be removed. Just something that's cheesy or pandering that you noticed.
Wow, it's really hard to explain this precisely when English isn't your first language.
My personal example will be Risen 3. I loved the Gothic games, I loved the first Risen and I loved the third Risen game. No other game has managed to do exploration and discovery quite as fun as these games. Coupled with a good sense of humor here and there and you get a fantastic experience.
The second Risen game however was quite poor in a lot of cases, with a much more linear scope than previous games, a larger focuss on a pretty poor story and pretty big balance issues (The moment you get a rifle, the game might as well give you the win right there because nothing will be able to defeat you at that point).
But theres one thing that the game did rather well, or rather one person that it did rather well and that is Patty. Patty is pretty badass pirate and a fighting companion of yours for a large part of the game. She's also a bit of a love interest but the game interestingly never lets you actually hook up with her. Which makes sense because in the context of the game she just has better things to do. She also looks very fitting for her part.
Now the same character appears in Risen 3. Though this time she looks like this.
Which at that point just seems like obvious pandering since she looked very different in the previous game. She looked sort-of similar to this in Risen 1 (At least in the chest area), so it might be that the developers wanted to get back to this since Risen 2 wasn't too well received, but the reason she looked that way in Risen 1 was that all women looked that way in Risen 1. They only had 1 female model in that game.
It would make sense if they wanted to set her up for a real romance option in the third game and wanted to make her sexier for that purpose. But that's not even the case. In fact your playing a different hero in Risen 3. A hero who's the brother of Patty. Yes, the character in Risen 3 with her massive breasts hanging out is your sister.
Great, just great.
