Gaming Laptop, Suggestions?
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LOLOLOLOL. Stop giving people bad advice. It'll be like 2 years at least before anything that a real gaming laptop would struggle to play, that is unless both consoles use strange processor architecture making porting nearly impossible. The Xbox 720 and the PS 4 aren't even on the horizon yet so I think that buying and laptop now would be fine.Metalhandkerchief said:
and i dont care about consoles i wont even buy a ps4 or 720 for years because 1) usualy 90% of the games in the first year or 2 are crap and 2) theres no bloody games for them at launch also even laptops are far more powerfull then even post gen consoles, consoles are weak simple as their designed to make money and be cheap to build while doing enough otherwise theyd all have gtx 690's and i7's in themMetalhandkerchief said:
basicly what im saying is i need a gaming laptop that has a great gpu i dont know how anything below the 680m performs so i dont know how to compare and im hesitant for nvidia because i had the older 8000 series which sucked and i have had 2 ati gpu's since and they own so i dont know whether to go ati or nvidia and which card also any site which sells laptop gpu's would be good and other components because i can upgrade the parts easily i know how to
You should, for any and all gaming computers, heat is the enemy. All laptops known to man have major issues with heat dispersal (some are worse than others), it is for this reason that there are no good gaming laptops, there are some halfway decent gaming laptops that will cost you a small fortune, but even those are... unlikely to last the 5+ years you are asking for.SnowBurst said:
I assume you need a laptop for schoolwork or something similar? If so, have you looked into buying both? 200-250 pounds can purchase a basic but reliable work laptop (note: it will not be sufficient for graphic design if that is a requirement), with the remaining 750-800 pounds being more than enough for a good gaming desktop that should last quite well, particularly if you shop smart.
Alienware's laptops tend to be above average, though their desktops are a waste of time.Nouw said:Just invest in a new laptop that has a high price and you should be sweet. The laptop I'm using right now is great for gaming and it wasn't built for it, didn't cost much either.The priceVault101 said:. I believe Alienwares are over-priced but someone with actual technical knowledge can correct me here.
That MSI one is quite good looking, that looks like your best option. Not sure you'll be playing "new releases" on ultra, but you'll be doing okay for a laptop in general.SnowBurst said:
im too old to be in school lol finished tht like 2 years ago (college) so i use the laptop for gaming wherever i am which is 90% of the time next to a plug socket but use it for research etc. heat can be combated with other methods so it isnt a problem just dont play a game all day everyday and discharge the battery every now n then and keep the airways dust free and itll be fineHeronblade said:
alienware arnt that good ull pay 1k for a i5 and gtx5 series but what i mean is, that msi i dont know if it sells in the uk and i dont know for what price with the 680m and i7 (im more concerned with the gpu then cpu)Griffolion said:Alienware's laptops tend to be above average, though their desktops are a waste of time.Nouw said:Just invest in a new laptop that has a high price and you should be sweet. The laptop I'm using right now is great for gaming and it wasn't built for it, didn't cost much either.The priceVault101 said:
That MSI one is quite good looking, that looks like your best option. Not sure you'll be playing "new releases" on ultra, but you'll be doing okay for a laptop in general.SnowBurst said:
Well do some research on MSI's website for the laptop that fits best into your requirements, and then search that model number on Amazon etc. I'm going to be honest, if you're after a 680M model, you're going to be going above £1K very very easily.SnowBurst said:
Plus, Alienware's laptops are known best for their build quality and reliability. Unlike their desktops.
Having had 2 gaming laptops in a row, both of which I was really happy with, and never bid me any problems (except when my first one fell on the floor and cracked the screen, I can say a couple thing.
Dell makes a killer gaming laptop if you're willing to invest a bit of money, and their customer service, in my experience, is top notch. That's where I got both of mine, the first an Inspiron something with the best insides they offered at the time, the second an XPS something which I only recently changed for a desktop, and still use from time to time(it can still run stuff like BF3 comfortably on low, despite being a couple years old).
The second; make DAMN sure you don't buy it too small, it needs to be a certain size to have room for sufficient cooling. My Inspiron was a 17" and had several air intake fans. My XPS was a 15" with only 1, and I can tell you it gets extremely hot when gaming, going beyond the point of discomfort and reaching temperatures high enough to give actual burns, which my hand can attest to after trying to touch the underside of it to lift it after playing BF3 for about an hour (and I use a fairly decent cooling pad too).
Dell makes a killer gaming laptop if you're willing to invest a bit of money, and their customer service, in my experience, is top notch. That's where I got both of mine, the first an Inspiron something with the best insides they offered at the time, the second an XPS something which I only recently changed for a desktop, and still use from time to time(it can still run stuff like BF3 comfortably on low, despite being a couple years old).
The second; make DAMN sure you don't buy it too small, it needs to be a certain size to have room for sufficient cooling. My Inspiron was a 17" and had several air intake fans. My XPS was a 15" with only 1, and I can tell you it gets extremely hot when gaming, going beyond the point of discomfort and reaching temperatures high enough to give actual burns, which my hand can attest to after trying to touch the underside of it to lift it after playing BF3 for about an hour (and I use a fairly decent cooling pad too).
When it comes to hardware lifespan, heat cycles are murder. Meaning going from cold to hot and from hot to cold. Booting up a computer and going into a game, then shutting the computer down completely, is among the most punishing things you can do to your computer. It will literally bend your hardware out of shape, slowly breaking it. Laptops growing hotter than normal computers only makes it worse, on top of the fact that you generally boot up and shut down laptops much more often due to their mobile nature. That's in addition to overheating issues, which breaks your shit even faster. Laptops will always have a much shorter average lifespan.
For a gaming computer, don't use a laptop. The value for your money is just much lower than a normal stationary computer, unless you have money to spare. Which, judging by the fact that you have a budget, you don't.
Incidentally, that's why computers you never/rarely shut down have a longer lifespan than computers you shut down every day.
For a gaming computer, don't use a laptop. The value for your money is just much lower than a normal stationary computer, unless you have money to spare. Which, judging by the fact that you have a budget, you don't.
Incidentally, that's why computers you never/rarely shut down have a longer lifespan than computers you shut down every day.
It appears you can get a sager NP9170 with 8gb ram, a 750gb hard drive, 128gb ssd, 2.3ghz i7, and 670m gpu for $1600 (<£1000). I've had good experiences with sager in the past; their machines are power houses, easy to clean, and have generous customer support. However, I'm unsure what their availability in the UK is and you can't mind your rig looking like it's from 1999.
Whatever you end up buying I recommend two things:
-Get a SSD, preferably in conjunction with a hard drive. On any gaming laptop a conventional hard drive will frequently be your bottleneck by a wide margin.
-Remove the battery while it's plugged in, this will dramatically increase its lifespan so when you actually need to run it without an outlet you can do so for longer than 30 minutes.
Whatever you end up buying I recommend two things:
-Get a SSD, preferably in conjunction with a hard drive. On any gaming laptop a conventional hard drive will frequently be your bottleneck by a wide margin.
-Remove the battery while it's plugged in, this will dramatically increase its lifespan so when you actually need to run it without an outlet you can do so for longer than 30 minutes.