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MercurySteam

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Danceofmasks said:
MercurySteam said:
She simply won't.

The specs for Dragon Age 2, which comes out March next year show the Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS 512MB as the minimum requirement. I doubt that even buy the end of 2011 that games will require at least 1GB of GDDR.
Psst .. I sorta know what I'm talking about ...
*looks over at the wall shelf containing over 1500 games*
I'm just reinforcing your point. Trust me I KNOW computer hardware.

*thinks about all the hours spent on researching computer builds and individual components*
 

KaosuHamoni

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Danceofmasks said:
Pirate Kitty said:
Danceofmasks said:
Recommended specs talk about system RAM, not video RAM.
>$500 video cards won't come with more than 1.5GB.
Please don't butt into conversations you don't understand.

GPU is always mentioned in system specs.

Example: [Minimum specs for Crysis]
"OS - Windows XP or Windows Vista
Processor - 2.8 GHz or faster (XP) or 3.2 GHz or faster* (Vista)
Memory - 1.0 GB RAM (XP) or 1.5 GB RAM (Vista)
Video Card -256 MB**
Hard Drive - 12GB
Sound Card - DirectX 9.0c compatibler"
Show me a spec that says 2GB video, then.

JUST ONE
The Radeon HD 6970, and the Radeon HD 6950.

http://www.amd.com/uk/products/desktop/graphics/amd-radeon-hd-6000/hd-6970/Pages/amd-radeon-hd-6970-overview.aspx#2
http://www.amd.com/UK/PRODUCTS/DESKTOP/GRAPHICS/AMD-RADEON-HD-6000/HD-6950/Pages/amd-radeon-hd-6950-overview.aspx#2

MercurySteam said:
Danceofmasks said:
MercurySteam said:
She simply won't.

The specs for Dragon Age 2, which comes out March next year show the Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS 512MB as the minimum requirement. I doubt that even buy the end of 2011 that games will require at least 1GB of GDDR.
Psst .. I sorta know what I'm talking about ...
*looks over at the wall shelf containing over 1500 games*
I'm just reinforcing your point. Trust me I KNOW computer hardware.

*thinks about all the hours spent on researching computer builds and individual components*
So do I. Mainly because I've done exactly the same. These cards do have 2GB vRam, but its not like he's going to need it.
 

DTWolfwood

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Get a 320GB or larger Solid State HDD if you're serious about gaming. and replace that Vid Card, ATI drivers are complete garbage now that you don't have a decent third party driver support.

with 900W to play with consider getting Dual SLI cards. Hope you have all the proper cooling tho.
 

Danceofmasks

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KaosuHamoni said:
Danceofmasks said:
Pirate Kitty said:
Danceofmasks said:
Recommended specs talk about system RAM, not video RAM.
>$500 video cards won't come with more than 1.5GB.
Please don't butt into conversations you don't understand.

GPU is always mentioned in system specs.

Example: [Minimum specs for Crysis]
"OS - Windows XP or Windows Vista
Processor - 2.8 GHz or faster (XP) or 3.2 GHz or faster* (Vista)
Memory - 1.0 GB RAM (XP) or 1.5 GB RAM (Vista)
Video Card -256 MB**
Hard Drive - 12GB
Sound Card - DirectX 9.0c compatibler"
Show me a spec that says 2GB video, then.

JUST ONE
The Radeon HD 6970, and the Radeon HD 6950.

http://www.amd.com/uk/products/desktop/graphics/amd-radeon-hd-6000/hd-6970/Pages/amd-radeon-hd-6970-overview.aspx#2
http://www.amd.com/UK/PRODUCTS/DESKTOP/GRAPHICS/AMD-RADEON-HD-6000/HD-6950/Pages/amd-radeon-hd-6950-overview.aspx#2

MercurySteam said:
Danceofmasks said:
MercurySteam said:
She simply won't.

The specs for Dragon Age 2, which comes out March next year show the Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS 512MB as the minimum requirement. I doubt that even buy the end of 2011 that games will require at least 1GB of GDDR.
Psst .. I sorta know what I'm talking about ...
*looks over at the wall shelf containing over 1500 games*
I'm just reinforcing your point. Trust me I KNOW computer hardware.

*thinks about all the hours spent on researching computer builds and individual components*
So do I. Mainly because I've done exactly the same. These cards do have 2GB vRam, but its not like he's going to need it.
I was asking for "recommended specs" on a video game that says 2GB ...
 

MercurySteam

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number2301 said:
People in glass houses and all that. Where are these games which specify a GPU with more than 2Gb RAM? Where are these GPUs with more than 2Gb RAM?
The Radeon HD6950 and HD6970 are the only ones on the market. They start at $330 and go up to $500. Nvidia only goes up to 1.5GB GDDR5 and they cost around $450-$900.

EDIT: Yes, I just realized you asked for cards with more than 2GB. My mistake.
 

KaosuHamoni

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Danceofmasks said:
KaosuHamoni said:
Danceofmasks said:
Pirate Kitty said:
Danceofmasks said:
Recommended specs talk about system RAM, not video RAM.
>$500 video cards won't come with more than 1.5GB.
Please don't butt into conversations you don't understand.

GPU is always mentioned in system specs.

Example: [Minimum specs for Crysis]
"OS - Windows XP or Windows Vista
Processor - 2.8 GHz or faster (XP) or 3.2 GHz or faster* (Vista)
Memory - 1.0 GB RAM (XP) or 1.5 GB RAM (Vista)
Video Card -256 MB**
Hard Drive - 12GB
Sound Card - DirectX 9.0c compatibler"
Show me a spec that says 2GB video, then.

JUST ONE
The Radeon HD 6970, and the Radeon HD 6950.

http://www.amd.com/uk/products/desktop/graphics/amd-radeon-hd-6000/hd-6970/Pages/amd-radeon-hd-6970-overview.aspx#2
http://www.amd.com/UK/PRODUCTS/DESKTOP/GRAPHICS/AMD-RADEON-HD-6000/HD-6950/Pages/amd-radeon-hd-6950-overview.aspx#2

MercurySteam said:
Danceofmasks said:
MercurySteam said:
She simply won't.

The specs for Dragon Age 2, which comes out March next year show the Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS 512MB as the minimum requirement. I doubt that even buy the end of 2011 that games will require at least 1GB of GDDR.
Psst .. I sorta know what I'm talking about ...
*looks over at the wall shelf containing over 1500 games*
I'm just reinforcing your point. Trust me I KNOW computer hardware.

*thinks about all the hours spent on researching computer builds and individual components*
So do I. Mainly because I've done exactly the same. These cards do have 2GB vRam, but its not like he's going to need it.
I was asking for "recommended specs" on a video game that says 2GB ...
Fair enough. There isn't one.
 

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KaosuHamoni said:
The Radeon HD 6970, and the Radeon HD 6950.

http://www.amd.com/uk/products/desktop/graphics/amd-radeon-hd-6000/hd-6970/Pages/amd-radeon-hd-6970-overview.aspx#2
http://www.amd.com/UK/PRODUCTS/DESKTOP/GRAPHICS/AMD-RADEON-HD-6000/HD-6950/Pages/amd-radeon-hd-6950-overview.aspx#2
I do believe he meant show him a game that requires 2GB VRAM, of which there are none.

EDIT: Ninja'd
 

Sleifer

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I would without a doubt wait a couple of weeks for intel's sandy bridge to come out before I'd even think about building a computer right now.
 

KaosuHamoni

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Skylants said:
KaosuHamoni said:
The Radeon HD 6970, and the Radeon HD 6950.

http://www.amd.com/uk/products/desktop/graphics/amd-radeon-hd-6000/hd-6970/Pages/amd-radeon-hd-6970-overview.aspx#2
http://www.amd.com/UK/PRODUCTS/DESKTOP/GRAPHICS/AMD-RADEON-HD-6000/HD-6950/Pages/amd-radeon-hd-6950-overview.aspx#2
I do believe he meant show him a game that requires 2GB VRAM, of which there are none.

EDIT: Ninja'd
._. Fail.

Well, there isn't one. Yet.
 

koriantor

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My advice has already been mentioned in the thread. Sorry.

Oh, and this whole video card thing... You don't need 2gb of vRAM for your GPU. It will break your wallet if you buy it now, and in say, 2 years, it'll be just as cheap as everything else. You can always upgrade then. Instead of 2gb of RAM I'd reccomend getting a 1gb nvidia card. At the very least, 512 mb (that's what I'm running, however, I plan on upgrading sometime within the next 2 years), but for future expansion, 1gb is probably the best balance between the two.

That'll give you a bit of money in the bank, plus a nice running computer. Remember, you can always upgrade in the future!

About half the people here don't seem to be very economical with their choices in hardware it seems. (I'm looking at you Pirate Kitty)
 

Fooz

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Sleifer said:
I would without a doubt wait a couple of weeks for intel's sandy bridge to come out before I'd even think about building a computer right now.
i just looked up the sandy bridge, yes it is good, but i reckon its going to cost quite a bit(correct me if im wrong), im trying to build an affordable PC and at the moment with the parts i have in mind it is going to be around £800 (including monitor, keyboard and mouse that arent listed), which is in my case affordable
 

MercurySteam

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DTWolfwood said:
Get a 320GB or larger Solid State HDD if you're serious about gaming.
You do realize that 480GB SSD are about $1500? Talk about diminishing returns on the hugest FUCKING scale ever.
 

Zipa

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You should be able to get a good deal on Nvidias 400 series cards, the new 5 series has just relesed so they are most likely going to be selling the 400s off cheaper. And yeah no way do you need a GFX card with 2GB of vRAM, I run a geforce 470 with 1280MB and it handles anything I can throw at it easily.
 

Fooz

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koriantor said:
My advice has already been mentioned in the thread. Sorry.

Oh, and this whole video card thing... You don't need 2gb of vRAM for your GPU. It will break your wallet if you buy it now, and in say, 2 years, it'll be just as cheap as everything else. You can always upgrade then. Instead of 2gb of RAM I'd reccomend getting a 1gb nvidia card. At the very least, 512 mb (that's what I'm running, however, I plan on upgrading sometime within the next 2 years), but for future expansion, 1gb is probably the best balance between the two.

That'll give you a bit of money in the bank, plus a nice running computer. Remember, you can always upgrade in the future!

About half the people here don't seem to be very economical with their choices in hardware it seems. (I'm looking at you Pirate Kitty)

yeah im gunna stick with 1GB for the money reason and like you said i can upgrade in the future
 

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To be honest, unless you will be playing Crysis a lot, I don't think it's worth it to spend more than 150 dollars on a graphics card. I have a Radeon 5770, which cost me 110 dollars, and I have never had FPS problems, and I have a similar CPU to yours.

I could think that a 5870 or one of the newer, equally priced cards will last you a long time, and you could possibly get a motherboard that supports crossfire (two gfx cards) and get one 5770 or one 5870 now and add another later, should the need arise.

Bottom line, a 5450 graphics card WILL give you low fps, and it will be your bottle-neck. The 5770 is a very decent and affordable card that I can recommend, and that will run all current games at max settings, and that scales well if you can get a mobo that supports XF.

Edit: Oh, and I am fairly sure that the AMD cards will give you more bang for your buck, but I'm not completely certain.
 

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Master Steeds said:
hello guys, i know this asking a lot but i was wondering if maybe one of you could help me out here, im just wondering if this PC that im going to get will actually work and perform well.

im kind of new to this so please go easy on me :D

OK so i have built one that i believe should work and has all the parts (im hoping) plCPUease tell me if you notice i am forgeting something or if something will not work.

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 970 Black Edition Quad Core CPU (AM3 Socket)

Motherboard: MSI 870A-G54 Socket Socket AM3 Motherboard

RAM: Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333MHz Non-ECC 240pin DIMM Memory Module

Graphics Card: Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 5450 1GB (not very good apparently)

Hard Drive: 2TB Seagate Barracuda XT SATA3 ( too big apparently)

Case - CCL Advantage Excel Barebone (will this case house this stuff?)

EDIT:

PSU: 900W Evo Labs 80+ ATX Power Supply (is 900W a bit excessive?)

Can you recommend any good Graphics cards and Hard Drives?

also someone mentioned having an external hard drive for backing stuff up, thought i should mention i have one already with 1 TB of space so im set there

also i am english so bear in mind some stuff may not be available here that may be available in the USA
Graphics card is weak for gaming, never trusted seagate, make sure you read the reviews of any hard drive before you buy it, could not find much information on your case, didnt find it in amazon or newegg so i dont trust it, 900W is a bit to much for that graphics card
Look at Western Digital or Samsung for your HDD, they are usually very good
GTX 460 (1G version) is very nice, if thats too powerful iv heard the 5770 isnt too bad, and if you have money to spare, the GTX480 and radeon 5970 are very good
ur proc is fine for video games, but you may want someting more powerful for other processor intensive tasks (intel has better stepping which means they can preform more calculations for the same frequency processor)
For the case, if your looking for a cheap small case, the Azza Helios is very nice with a bunch of fans and looks cool, for a full tower, the Azza solano is also good
if you dont mind paying more, Cooler Master makes good cases, and Lian-Li makes the best cases
Motherboard is one of my personal favorites
Ram should be fine
 

MercurySteam

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Sleifer said:
I would without a doubt wait a couple of weeks for intel's sandy bridge to come out before I'd even think about building a computer right now.
Don't you think that Sandy Bridge is a bit overkill if he's only aiming for AMD's Phenom II X4 processors? And AMD's Bulldozer chips will be something to marvel at.