Gaming problems with my gf.

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Charm Offensive

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meryatathagres said:
Charm Offensive said:
I'm opposed to oral sex
Wait... What?

Men who don't give oral sex to women, deserve to be married to their lefty. Just saying.
Oh, i'm not aversed to giving, but i'm absolutely against receiving as i feel it degrades the woman.
 

Amondren

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Luckily me good ol GF doesn't do that she accepts I'm a gamer and is interested by some of the games I play. I suggest talking it out if she legitimately is insulting you and your feelings are hurt.
 

meryatathagres

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Charm Offensive said:
meryatathagres said:
Charm Offensive said:
I'm opposed to oral sex
Wait... What?

Men who don't give oral sex to women, deserve to be married to their lefty. Just saying.
Oh, i'm not aversed to giving, but i'm absolutely against receiving as i feel it degrades the woman.
I see. Well it doesn't. That is if she wants to do it. Oh and dont grab her head. :p That doesnt feel nice and it can launch a puke reflex even. :p
 

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Charm Offensive said:
Well, i only play team headqaurters and i think the difference between "camping" and "strategic waiting" is this.

A camper will park himself somewhere hidden or hard to reach soleley with a view of racking up kills while not dying to unlock a killstreak reward. Giving absolutely no thought to how his actions affect the team's ability to secure a HQ.

A strategic waiter like myself will choose his location very carefully. Normally a tactical position where i can provide overwatch for the guys on the ground that are attacking the HQ itself, or of the major routes from the spawns to the HQ.

I mean, yeah, i avoid the thickest of the action so i can unlock the attack dogs killstreak, but i do it for purely selfless reasons.
I'm sorry, but that's camping. You are not playing the objective, and instead are trying rack up kills. You can try and say that you're helping the team, but you're still camping.
 

mikev7.0

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"...Strategic waiting?"

Sorry, mate. As many others have said, your girlfriend's right. And (promise I'm not saying this because of female solidarity, but...) she sounds like she knows what she's doing. As you've said you're "pretty sure she'll beat you one on one," have you ever thought that she's just giving you tips? I give tips to my gamer friends all the time when we're playing. (a la: "No, when I do that move you want to block and counter, not try to attack me after I've started winding up for it" in a fighting game.) You can fight about it if you so desire, but to me, it seems like she's in the right.

Worst comes to worst, and you need to duke it out in a non-fight situation: pick a game you're both equally good at and decide who's right in a 1v1 match (or best 2 out of 3, or whatever you can agree on). Winner of the match is right. Though, really, talking it out with a simple "I'd appreciate it if you don't backseat game while I'm playing" would be simplest.
Okay you had me at "No, when I do that move you want to block and counter, not try to attack me after I've started winding up for it." In what game did you give this advice? I ask because one of the true masters of martial arts, Bruce Lee, teaches in the Tao of Jeet Kune Do that the BEST time to strike your opponent is as they are preparing to strike you. I use this in fighting games all the time and if you DIDN'T combo into that Super or Ultra get ready to be comboed. An alert opponent can (and usually will) easily interrupt a non combo move with a wind-up. Priority counts. I was just really curious, there could be a fighting game that I haven't played where that's not true, that's kinda' why I wanted to know.

OT: You aren't going to like hearing this but it's not your girlfriend's advice that is bugging you. I mean, you have a girlfriend that's not only willing to play with you but is actually interested in the game herself, for one that's a pretty neat problem to have. Two, what's really pissing you off is that you don't like campers yourself and yet as your girlfriend (and several escapists) rightly pointed out, you are one. That's what's really bugging you. What is happening with your girlfriend is just transference to the origin of a truth that you really don't like and aren't ready to accept. The only thing that will really get rid of that feeling of discontent is to change so you are no longer guilty of a behavior that you really don't respect, or change your perspective of how you see "camper" so that being one no longer causes you any undue angst. I'm sure you'll both be fine just try to remember that no game is worth resentment being built up with anyone that you value. In short? People and their feelings are much more important than games or hobbies.

Also, I would avoid setting up any form of "contest" with someone you love as it sets a precedent that you actually believe it's possible to prove something other than who spends the most time with it by winning a video game. Anyone who gets owned by their partner at a game they are enthusiastic about themselves usually doesn't have to think that hard about it when they wonder what's more important to their partner, them or gaming?
 

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I'm quite a big gamer and have been spending a fair amount of my free time playing Black Ops on my xbox recently. I'm not neglecting Natasha or anything, in fact she's kind of a gamer too. The following picture is kind of true of our relationship.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmchytXP3d1qjbc5uo1_500.jpg

Pictures don't post here, so it says "a real girlfriend does not complain when her boyfriend is playing his xbox. She sits there and yells... KILL HIM"

The graphic makes it seem like a nice thing, but, it's kind of annoying when proceeded by "why are you using the ACOG attachment on such a small map" or "didn't you just call that other guy a tosser for camping in that exact same spot that you have been prone on for the last 90 seconds".

Or my personal favourite "oh give me the controller and i'll do it". She knows the difference in stopping power between an Ithaca and a HS-10 and thinks it makes her a bloody, i don't know, cold war era Joan of Ark or something.

But she doesn't even know the difference between "camping" and "strategic waiting". Which. Is. What. I. Do.

I really don't want our first major fight to be over Call of Duty. I just really needed to rant about this, but does anyone have any advice on how i can mitigate my burning desire to scream whenever she offers me advice on the game?
Sounds like she know's what she's doing. My advice: Ask her to take you under her wing. Also, play some matches co-op split screen style. Might be fun! You can always learn :)
 

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mikev7.0 said:
LiberalSquirrel said:
"...Strategic waiting?"

Sorry, mate. As many others have said, your girlfriend's right. And (promise I'm not saying this because of female solidarity, but...) she sounds like she knows what she's doing. As you've said you're "pretty sure she'll beat you one on one," have you ever thought that she's just giving you tips? I give tips to my gamer friends all the time when we're playing. (a la: "No, when I do that move you want to block and counter, not try to attack me after I've started winding up for it" in a fighting game.) You can fight about it if you so desire, but to me, it seems like she's in the right.

Worst comes to worst, and you need to duke it out in a non-fight situation: pick a game you're both equally good at and decide who's right in a 1v1 match (or best 2 out of 3, or whatever you can agree on). Winner of the match is right. Though, really, talking it out with a simple "I'd appreciate it if you don't backseat game while I'm playing" would be simplest.
Okay you had me at "No, when I do that move you want to block and counter, not try to attack me after I've started winding up for it." In what game did you give this advice? I ask because one of the true masters of martial arts, Bruce Lee, teaches in the Tao of Jeet Kune Do that the BEST time to strike your opponent is as they are preparing to strike you. I use this in fighting games all the time and if you DIDN'T combo into that Super or Ultra get ready to be comboed. An alert opponent can (and usually will) easily interupt a non combo move with a wind-up. Priority counts. I was just really curious, there could be a fighting game that I haven't played where that's not true, that's kinda' why I wanted to know.
Soul Calibur (IV). I was playing Amy (rather fast rapier-wielding girl), my friend was Siegfried (slow, greatsword-weilding guy). I kept hitting him in the middle of him trying to attack me before I attacked him. In that, it works better for him to block as I attack him, because there's a counter move that'll leave me wide open for him to attack, and not allow me to attack before him. Make sense?

I know why that may have confused you- perhaps not the best example to pick, but I was posting while studying for a final exam, and that little tidbit was the first thing that came to mind.
 

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Sounds like you're threatened, which is pretty embarrassing. Don't take a long range attachment on short maps unless you have some kind of wacky niche strategy you insist on using. Don't camp. There's no such thing as strategic waiting- even the name sounds like some cheeser's mewling excuse; it's BS and she obviously knows it.

Finally, either get better so that you can argue on equal footing-- you're only actually mad enough to post here because she's often right where you're wrong, as demonstrated by the point-of-contention examples you've provided. Or, explain that you're not a great gamer, but you're playing for fun and would prefer to go on without the 'hardcore' attitude giving input.

There. Simple.
 

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Neo10101 said:
If you are prone for 90 seconds and not the sniper you are camping, sorry man but point to your gf.
I agree.

Just tell her you don't like getting advice. Not that hard. If you have a good relationship, she should understand.

EDIT: Be sure to do this in a non-confrontational manner.
 

mikev7.0

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LiberalSquirrel said:
mikev7.0 said:
LiberalSquirrel said:
"...Strategic waiting?"

Sorry, mate. As many others have said, your girlfriend's right. And (promise I'm not saying this because of female solidarity, but...) she sounds like she knows what she's doing. As you've said you're "pretty sure she'll beat you one on one," have you ever thought that she's just giving you tips? I give tips to my gamer friends all the time when we're playing. (a la: "No, when I do that move you want to block and counter, not try to attack me after I've started winding up for it" in a fighting game.) You can fight about it if you so desire, but to me, it seems like she's in the right.

Worst comes to worst, and you need to duke it out in a non-fight situation: pick a game you're both equally good at and decide who's right in a 1v1 match (or best 2 out of 3, or whatever you can agree on). Winner of the match is right. Though, really, talking it out with a simple "I'd appreciate it if you don't backseat game while I'm playing" would be simplest.
Okay you had me at "No, when I do that move you want to block and counter, not try to attack me after I've started winding up for it." In what game did you give this advice? I ask because one of the true masters of martial arts, Bruce Lee, teaches in the Tao of Jeet Kune Do that the BEST time to strike your opponent is as they are preparing to strike you. I use this in fighting games all the time and if you DIDN'T combo into that Super or Ultra get ready to be comboed. An alert opponent can (and usually will) easily interupt a non combo move with a wind-up. Priority counts. I was just really curious, there could be a fighting game that I haven't played where that's not true, that's kinda' why I wanted to know.
Soul Calibur (IV). I was playing Amy (rather fast rapier-wielding girl), my friend was Siegfried (slow, greatsword-weilding guy). I kept hitting him in the middle of him trying to attack me before I attacked him. In that, it works better for him to block as I attack him, because there's a counter move that'll leave me wide open for him to attack, and not allow me to attack before him. Make sense?

I know why that may have confused you- perhaps not the best example to pick, but I was posting while studying for a final exam, and that little tidbit was the first thing that came to mind.
Ah. I don't remember Amy but then I had Soul Calibur only for a little while and then traded it in (thanks to the advice of a couple of Escapists) on BlazBlue and never looked back. I am familiar with Seigfreid though and yes, now your explanation makes a lot more sense, I just usually play characters more like amy (Sakura in SSFIV) for their ability to interrupt the Seigfreids and Zangiefs of the world (well that and because only about 10/100 gamers even know that the Sakura Otoshi exists and 2 out of that number know that it auto targets as an EX move), so yes now that makes sense.

Also I meant no offense when I suggested that a contest was a bad idea, it's just taught that competitions (even ones that seem or should be fun) can often end in resentment if they began that way and the whole reason the OP made this thread is resentment about his girlfriends suggestions in regard to his play style.
 

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mikev7.0 said:
LiberalSquirrel said:
mikev7.0 said:
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Ah. I don't remember Amy but then I had Soul Calibur only for a little while and then traded it in (thanks to the advice of a couple of Escapists) on BlazBlue and never looked back. I am familiar with Seigfreid though and yes, now your explanation makes a lot more sense, I just usually play characters more like amy (Sakura in SSFIV) for their ability to interrupt the Seigfreids and Zangiefs of the world (well that and because only about 10/100 gamers even know that the Sakura Otoshi exists and 2 out of that number know that it auto targets as an EX move), so yes now that makes sense.

Also I meant no offense when I suggested that a contest was a bad idea, it's just taught that competitions (even ones that seem or should be fun) can often end in resentment if they began that way and the whole reason the OP made this thread is resentment about his girlfriends suggestions in regard to his play style.
Heh. Nothin' wrong with trading Soul Calibur in for Blazblue. I own a ton of fighting games, but Blazblue's probably my favorite.

And no offense taken. I can recommend contests because that's how I solved problems with my roommate my entire sophomore year of college (Super Smash Bros, stock battle, no items, Sector Z- winner of the fight is the winner of the argument), but it's certainly not an option for everyone. Personally, I find talking it out to be the best way to go, but with video games, sometimes a game is the best way to solve a gaming dispute. -shrug- Really, to each his or her own.
 

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Sentox6 said:
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Also, no offense, but..You sound threatened by the fact that she knows games as well or better than you do. You'd probably be better off with a non-gamer.
This.

Also, "strategic waiting" = lol. At least try to call it something legitimate like "map control".
Hee hee "Map control." I love that. Kinda' like saying "No....no.....Turtling?....No...Nope...not at all...ZONING...That's what I'm doing...just getting a good zone going on over here.....*throwncomboedkoed*

Camping or Strategic Wait(sorry can't say it with a straight face) or "Map control" are all tactics that are a lot like turtling. At the more experienced levels of play they really aren't effective.
 

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So...your girlfriend called you a camper. And you called it "strategic waiting" with complete sincerity.

Points to your girlfriend. Quit hiding and play the damn game the way it was meant to be played.
 

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mikev7.0 said:
Hee hee "Map control." I love that. Kinda' like saying "No....no.....Turtling?....No...Nope...not at all...ZONING...That's what I'm doing...just getting a good zone going on over here.....*throwncomboedkoed*

Camping or Strategic Wait(sorry can't say it with a straight face) or "Map control" are all tactics that are a lot like turtling. At the more experienced levels of play they really aren't effective.
At the highest levels of play in games like Halo and Quake, map control is vital. It's not waiting in a corner for someone to run by (which I suspect is closer to what the OP is doing), but defending key areas that give you a strategic advantage, monopolising weapon spawns, etc.

Turtling in fighter games is something else again, and a completely legitimate playstyle.
 

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Charm Offensive said:
Yay! All's well that ends well... And assuming you're not joking about that Mad Moxxi thing, you are one lucky mofo.

Just out of curiosity, was there some condition for if (when) you lose?
Yes, i need to dress up like Frank Woods from Black Ops. I wont go into further detail.