I always wondered where the 'non manly' stereotype came from.
They're so manly, they've given up women.
They're so manly, they've given up women.
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In experience from my exs? It's cuz I punchedem in the nuts for being too damn flamboyant.Daystar Clarion said:
Ok, a bit of a hypocritical statement there. I should say that I'm a gay dude before I continue with this post.
My voice is pretty average, a bit higher than most, though.
I'm flamboyant in kind of a B-movie over acting manor and less a bright colors stereotype way.
My last couple exes fit the stereotype and I personally can't stand it. Those guys exist, and they annoy me to a certain extent.
I think the line is "Cliche's are cliches because they're true." Stereotypes all come from SOMEWHERE. The fact that those are the only things portrayed in pop culture for the most part pisses me off more.
Pretty much this. Of course, from the gay people that I know, it may just be like 1/20 of all gay men or something, but there definitely is a divergence from the norm, and there are plenty of straight men who are just as feminine/fruity.Heart said:
I think this is just a stereotype, I know a few gay guys and only one acts feminine and not really that much, I think the stereotype is in movies because it is hard to tell in real life when someone is gay, without having them directly say it, so gay characters are given traits that are stereotipically associated with gay people so they can be distinguished.
The effeminate sterotype is a refection of the fact that unless a gay man acts in that manner you wouldn't know from a quick glance that they were gay, therefore the camp ones you know to be instantly gay.Merkavar said:
It happen in movies because movies are quite lazy, how many movie can you think of where being of any sexuality really makes any difference.
Stereotypes are a product of our immediate interpretation of the shifts in means in the percieved Gaussian distribution(s) in human behavior.
Yeah TV is always a little slower than society as a whole. I mean the typical TV lesbian goes back to dating men after kissing a woman once. 
It's just a lot easier to write such characters as stereotypes because the majority will quickly be able to identify the character as gay and the gay community will be happy enough there's another gay character on tv.
It's just a lot easier to write such characters as stereotypes because the majority will quickly be able to identify the character as gay and the gay community will be happy enough there's another gay character on tv.
You get effeminate and masculine gay men. I am a masculine gay man. Typically you'll find that effeminate gay men are attracted to masculine gay men and vice versa but it's not a rule.
Spanner in the works... explain effeminate straight men! They exist! I know, I've been rejected by some when I thought they were gay.
Stereotypes, and extreme ones at that, are often more comical than not. It happens to gays, blacks, Indians etc in movies. So... who wants to watch Brokeback Mountain? Fine example of not stereotyping right there, not that they had a choice of course.
Spanner in the works... explain effeminate straight men! They exist! I know, I've been rejected by some when I thought they were gay.
Stereotypes, and extreme ones at that, are often more comical than not. It happens to gays, blacks, Indians etc in movies. So... who wants to watch Brokeback Mountain? Fine example of not stereotyping right there, not that they had a choice of course.
Merkavar said:
You could also say that calling someone who likes plays and theater and stuff like that "girlie" is also a stereotype, but I have a few gay friends and some are like that, but some are just regular dudes you wouldnt even know it. If you are looking for more "manly" gay guys represented you would have a better time in anime. Shows like Gravitation and others show how some men can be "dark" "manly" and all that stuff but be gay.
My mate's gay and Drives a Commodore Ute and likes decent music, he also likes football and is a fireman. He also dresses like a pro, he's possibly the second most stylish man I know. (I think myself to be ever so slightly more fashionable than everyone else, it's probably not an opinion shared by, well, anyone else.)Merkavar said:
Actually, it would be better to say that gay people "were" like this - that is, when homosexuals were shunned from society, many of them banded together and created their own culture. Because theater has long been a refuge for gay men, a love of theater, musicals, and similar is often associated with gay men.Merkavar said:
It's like lesbians liking golf. I don't care for golf, and neither did the lesbians I've dated. Or lesbians being really butch and dressing like men. Some lesbians used to, when gay culture was more oppressed, but that was more of a reaction to the oppression.
As homosexuality becomes more accepted, gay culture fades back into regular culture. I can be a gay girl and like girly things, and I know a gay guy who sits around playing Resident Evil in an old T-shirt for hours on end and hates theater.
i tend to think that it's because the non-flambouyant gays are just like normal people (this isn't trying to be offensive, really...) so no one notices them as being gay, so no one knows they exist...
i used that point on a girl at my work who said "oh please, you couldn't be gay... you don't sound gay..."
i used that point on a girl at my work who said "oh please, you couldn't be gay... you don't sound gay..."
I have three friends who are gay and they really don't show it that often, they're just like everybody else.
Gay folk don't bother me, but I find flamboyant(you know what I'm talking about) people really annoying, gay or straight. Also I recognize gay culture as a way of them banding together against prejudice and for camaraderie(among other things) but I also find it bizarre, they are the only group of people claiming a cultural schism based solely on sexual preference.
Ever see a movie from "gay cinema"? They're usually rated NC-17, I've yet to see anything from that "culture" that didn't involve lotsa sex.
Gay folk don't bother me, but I find flamboyant(you know what I'm talking about) people really annoying, gay or straight. Also I recognize gay culture as a way of them banding together against prejudice and for camaraderie(among other things) but I also find it bizarre, they are the only group of people claiming a cultural schism based solely on sexual preference.
Ever see a movie from "gay cinema"? They're usually rated NC-17, I've yet to see anything from that "culture" that didn't involve lotsa sex.
Everyone is surprised when I say I'm bi. "Stereotypes are always true" is one of the most false statements a person could make. Heck, one of my friends was once called gay as an insult and when he said yeah everybody was stunned.PatSilverFox said:
Not everyone looks/acts the same way.
