Gearbox CEO Randy Pitchford accused of taking $12 Million and possessing Child Porn

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BabyfartsMcgeezaks said:
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I think it's unfair that the internet mob already decided he's guilty, there's no real proof yet.
The internet mob also decided he is already not guilty.


The internet mob is far too diverse and divisive to lump together as one group.
He should be seen as not guilty until proven otherwise, though.

All we have to go on are allegations and no real evidence.
In theory, I one hundred percent agree with you. That is the legal system we were raised with. And I still believe it.

However, in practice? That's been dead for years.

We're taught that we're supposed to believe the Government above all else, the police above our fellow citizens, and the like. Have you ever read comments on unarmed police shootings against our citizens? "We don't see what happened before, maybe they were justified".

What about the comments on constant harassment of our citizens by police? "He must have done something wrong, the police don't harass for no reason".

You fight for it. And I'm with that. We should keep it alive. But no one really seems to do it any more.
 

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When someone who is already a proven scumbag is said to have done something scummy it's a lot easier to believe that he probably did it.
 

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I can't see anything coming of this. Much as I dislike the man, I will be shocked if either the accusations of embezzlement or child porn hold any water at all.
 

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From what I read, the guy admitted he had barely legal camgirl footage in his thumb drive. It's kinda iffy to put that in the same place you house all your super secret work stuff but I don't think you can call it illegal lol.


As for "the quartering" stuff, from I what I remember that guy actually revealed a lot of magic the gathering judges were pedophiles (some convicted) so wizards banned him with a flimsy excuse about him trolling some cosplayer girl or something along those lines, so it makes sense that he'd pounce on this story too cause it's also potentially about pedos which sounds like is his wheelhouse.
 

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DarthCoercis said:
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Why? Why would you link The Quartering?! Now I clicked it and YouTube is gonna think I want more of this asshole. Thanks.
Whats so bad about the quartering?
He's part of the whiney 'an "SJW" sneezed; let's make a video about it' brigade.
Isn't he the dude who got banned from all WotC events and games for harassing one of their contractors?
He said some unkind things about a cosplayer. Who was a woman, so speaking ill of her is punishable. Later he pointed out that WOTC had some judges that were pedos, and got shut down temporarily over that one.

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He should be seen as someone accused of something serious. WE DO NOT KNOW IF HE IS GUILTY OR INNOCENT.
I thought you were miss "if someone's accused we should treat them as guilty until they are absolutely formally proven innocent"?
 

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Schadrach said:
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He should be seen as someone accused of something serious. WE DO NOT KNOW IF HE IS GUILTY OR INNOCENT.
I thought you were miss "if someone's accused we should treat them as guilty until they are absolutely formally proven innocent"?
I am not. That is just what people who disagree with me try to spin me as in an effort to discredit me. If you actually take a moment to read and consider the things I say, you will find I am not the monster some people try to make me out to be. Almost as if they are just full of shit.
 

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Schadrach said:
DarthCoercis said:
Casual Shinji said:
Samos205 said:
Casual Shinji said:
Why? Why would you link The Quartering?! Now I clicked it and YouTube is gonna think I want more of this asshole. Thanks.
Whats so bad about the quartering?
He's part of the whiney 'an "SJW" sneezed; let's make a video about it' brigade.
Isn't he the dude who got banned from all WotC events and games for harassing one of their contractors?
He said some unkind things about a cosplayer. Who was a woman, so speaking ill of her is punishable. Later he pointed out that WOTC had some judges that were pedos, and got shut down temporarily over that one.

Saelune said:
He should be seen as someone accused of something serious. WE DO NOT KNOW IF HE IS GUILTY OR INNOCENT.
I thought you were miss "if someone's accused we should treat them as guilty until they are absolutely formally proven innocent"?
Saelune usually talks about not dismissing a claim just because the accused said they're innocent and don't call people liars without any evidence.

And people shouldn't get a job while an accusation hasn't been resolved. Which is where I'd point out someone like Kavanuagh gets away with rape becuase its too late. Ie it has been resolved
 

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BabyfartsMcgeezaks said:
Saelune said:
BabyfartsMcgeezaks said:
Saelune said:
BabyfartsMcgeezaks said:
I think it's unfair that the internet mob already decided he's guilty, there's no real proof yet.
The internet mob also decided he is already not guilty.


The internet mob is far too diverse and divisive to lump together as one group.
He should be seen as not guilty until proven otherwise, though.

All we have to go on are allegations and no real evidence.
He should be seen as someone accused of something serious. WE DO NOT KNOW IF HE IS GUILTY OR INNOCENT.
Until he is proven guilty or we're provided with actual evidence, he's not guilty and shouldn't be treated like he is in any way.
There's a fine line between "He hasn't been proven guilty yet" (Which is fair) and "he hasn't been proven guilty yet and actually thinking that the evidence and/or accusations look convincing is a slanderous attack on his character." (Which isn't) I agree he hasn't been proven guilty yet. I also think that this isn't out of character for him and I have a funny feeling the charges have weight to them.
 

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trunkage said:
Saelune usually talks about not dismissing a claim just because the accused said they're innocent and don't call people liars without any evidence.
Just call people rapists if there exists an accusation, even if it's one that lacks any useful detail, for which no physical evidence is going to exist, and in which everyone named as a potential witness has put out a statement that they don't recall the party it allegedly occurred at.

I think my problem is that you shouldn't call people liars without a mountain of evidence, but it's apparently OK to call them rapists with practically none.

trunkage said:
And people shouldn't get a job while an accusation hasn't been resolved. Which is where I'd point out someone like Kavanuagh gets away with rape becuase its too late. Ie it has been resolved
Has it? It's not under police investigation because she never put forward a criminal complaint (though there's basically nothing in her story to use as a starting point, as she's seemingly forgotten every concrete detail except for who did it and who else was allegedly at the party). That latter part is contradicted by those people issuing statements that they don't recall said party at all.

SCOTUS justices are not immune to the law, so he could in theory still be investigated, tried and convicted were there any evidence.

There's just no will to do it because it was a political maneuver whose whole point was to prevent or delay any SCOTUS appointment until after Gamble v US, out of worry that the "wrong" decision there might eliminate any leverage against people being investigated related to Trump by allowing him to pardon state crimes if a federal charge regarding the same conduct can be made (a possible outcome of overturning "separate sovereigns" which is being challenged in Gamble v US).

In other words, it technically hasn't been resolved, but no one involved actually *wants* to resolve it because there's no political value in doing so, and that was the whole reason it was brought up in the first place.
 

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erttheking said:
There's a fine line between "He hasn't been proven guilty yet" (Which is fair) and "he hasn't been proven guilty yet and actually thinking that the evidence and/or accusations look convincing is a slanderous attack on his character." (Which isn't) I agree he hasn't been proven guilty yet. I also think that this isn't out of character for him and I have a funny feeling the charges have weight to them.
You think leaving a collection of underage pornography at Medieval Times isn't out of character for him? I'm...concerned what sort of character you think he might be.
 
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There's a fine line between "He hasn't been proven guilty yet" (Which is fair) and "he hasn't been proven guilty yet and actually thinking that the evidence and/or accusations look convincing is a slanderous attack on his character." (Which isn't) I agree he hasn't been proven guilty yet. I also think that this isn't out of character for him and I have a funny feeling the charges have weight to them.
You think leaving a collection of underage pornography at Medieval Times isn't out of character for him? I'm...concerned what sort of character you think he might be.
He openly admitted having that material on a recent podcast! With a baffling justification. Are you seriously going to dismiss his own recorded words to keep this pretense up?

"I realized, this is not a sex worker," Pitchford said on the show. "This is a fucking magician." Pitchford, for those unaware, has a vested interest in the field of magicians and owns the magic-focused Genii Magazine.

"This was before I learned I should probably have password-protected memory sticks," Pitchford says, before admitting that he had indeed left a USB flash drive at a Medieval Times Dinner and Tournament restaurant. "Some kid, an employee of Medieval Times, discovered this memory stick, took it home... and discovered secrets of my company and future games in development, and also discovered the pornography. It was 'barely legal' porn. This girl's handle was 'Only 18.'" The USB flash drive was returned to Gearbox, Pitchford says, in exchange for "swag" and video games.

Pitchford claimed that the flash drive arrived at the studio while Pitchford was on vacation, so his executive assistant checked its contents. "Before I know it, I think the entire office looked at it. And there was one piece of content on here. And it never occurred to any of them that the reason why there was just that single porno was because of the magic trick, not because of [pause] I don't know whatever the fuck they thought." Later in the podcast, Pitchford suggests putting this "Only 18" performer "on the cover" of a future Genii Magazine issue.
Not out of character, no.
 

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There's a fine line between "He hasn't been proven guilty yet" (Which is fair) and "he hasn't been proven guilty yet and actually thinking that the evidence and/or accusations look convincing is a slanderous attack on his character." (Which isn't) I agree he hasn't been proven guilty yet. I also think that this isn't out of character for him and I have a funny feeling the charges have weight to them.
You think leaving a collection of underage pornography at Medieval Times isn't out of character for him? I'm...concerned what sort of character you think he might be.
He openly admitted having that material on a recent podcast! With a baffling justification. Are you seriously going to dismiss his own recorded words to keep this pretense up?
No, but he also claimed that the pornography in question was 1 video (as opposed to a "collection"), and not underage. The whole "underage" bit is sort of the important bit.
 

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Welp, Jim Sterling, looks like your birthday AND Christmas came early this year, wrapped up together with a huge bow held in place with a large, purple dildo?
 

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DarthCoercis said:
Casual Shinji said:
Samos205 said:
Casual Shinji said:
Why? Why would you link The Quartering?! Now I clicked it and YouTube is gonna think I want more of this asshole. Thanks.
Whats so bad about the quartering?
He's part of the whiney 'an "SJW" sneezed; let's make a video about it' brigade.
Isn't he the dude who got banned from all WotC events and games for harassing one of their contractors?
The exact same one. He loves to slander too, so he is as reliable as a broken clock.
 

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I'm left wondering what kind of idiot puts his porn on the same flash drive as his sensitive company files and then carries it around with him everywhere.
 

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Schadrach said:
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There's a fine line between "He hasn't been proven guilty yet" (Which is fair) and "he hasn't been proven guilty yet and actually thinking that the evidence and/or accusations look convincing is a slanderous attack on his character." (Which isn't) I agree he hasn't been proven guilty yet. I also think that this isn't out of character for him and I have a funny feeling the charges have weight to them.
You think leaving a collection of underage pornography at Medieval Times isn't out of character for him? I'm...concerned what sort of character you think he might be.
Pretty much the character of an abusive asshole.
 

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Canadamus Prime said:
I'm left wondering what kind of idiot puts his porn on the same flash drive as his sensitive company files and then carries it around with him everywhere.
The type of idiot that is too stupid to think he won't get caught.
 

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Canadamus Prime said:
I'm left wondering what kind of idiot puts his porn on the same flash drive as his sensitive company files and then carries it around with him everywhere.
Without even the most rudimentary of encryption to protect the drive.
 

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I'm left wondering what kind of idiot puts his porn on the same flash drive as his sensitive company files and then carries it around with him everywhere.
The type of idiot that is too stupid to think he won't get caught.
Certainly the kind that shouldn't be running a big name company.
Gordon_4 said:
Canadamus Prime said:
I'm left wondering what kind of idiot puts his porn on the same flash drive as his sensitive company files and then carries it around with him everywhere.
Without even the most rudimentary of encryption to protect the drive.
That too.