If they're really concerned with how crude it is, it's pretty obvious that Gearbox is on the right track with the humor. And I wouldn't want it any other way...
Gearbox Worried Duke Nukem Too Crude For ESRB
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If they decide to tone it down now that I've heard that, I'm not going to be buying it (and Duke Nukem is one of the shooters this gamer who normally doesn't play shooters has played and enjoyed).
Simply put, an "M" rated game should be "Mature" and nothing described there is any worse than an "R" rated movie. Gearbox needs to stick to it's guns and push for why these things should be allowed (and arguably are allowed) rather than cow-towing to the ESRB on it's own terms.
Either that or release it as AO, or "Unrated" though neither should be nessicary.
I find it ridiculous that as time goes on game content is actually backpedaling despite claims of trying to avoid censors. It hurts gamers. The problem of course being that there is more money in going with groups like the ESRB and/or censors than fighting them, if they can rely on gamers to buy the product anyway. If we support companies that back down, we encourage further censorship. All our bellyaching amounts to nothing if we don't wind up sending a clear message with our money.
I kind of look at situations like how in Fallout 1 and 2 you could kill kids. However nowadays you can't do so at all. In a game like "Fable 2" you can marry and murder as many people as you want, but when it comes to harming a child it can't be done, even if your supposed to be the most evil thing to ever exist.
Don't get me wrong, I have no great fasination with child slaughtering or anything, I typically play the good guy (despite what you might think from reading this), I simply don't like the idea of someone saying that this is Taboo, especially when the possibility already existed in other games.
I have similar thoughts when it comes to "Duke Nukem".
Simply put, an "M" rated game should be "Mature" and nothing described there is any worse than an "R" rated movie. Gearbox needs to stick to it's guns and push for why these things should be allowed (and arguably are allowed) rather than cow-towing to the ESRB on it's own terms.
Either that or release it as AO, or "Unrated" though neither should be nessicary.
I find it ridiculous that as time goes on game content is actually backpedaling despite claims of trying to avoid censors. It hurts gamers. The problem of course being that there is more money in going with groups like the ESRB and/or censors than fighting them, if they can rely on gamers to buy the product anyway. If we support companies that back down, we encourage further censorship. All our bellyaching amounts to nothing if we don't wind up sending a clear message with our money.
I kind of look at situations like how in Fallout 1 and 2 you could kill kids. However nowadays you can't do so at all. In a game like "Fable 2" you can marry and murder as many people as you want, but when it comes to harming a child it can't be done, even if your supposed to be the most evil thing to ever exist.
Don't get me wrong, I have no great fasination with child slaughtering or anything, I typically play the good guy (despite what you might think from reading this), I simply don't like the idea of someone saying that this is Taboo, especially when the possibility already existed in other games.
I have similar thoughts when it comes to "Duke Nukem".
Screw that, give me the AO rating on this game. If they don't pull their punches and it comes out AO, I will make this a day one release just because they had the balls to give the ESRB the finger. LITERALLY.
Is it just me, or does hearing about this game make you feel like you're dreaming? I won't lie, didn't know about Duke Nukem before Yahtzee's review, but from everything I'm hearing about this game, it feels like it's based off Yahtzee's review...and I have this feeling that it's not really coming out and one of the biggest pratical jokes ever...
Am I alone in this? Lol...because if this game IS as it sounds, then it's going to be the most loved game for sometime (and of course used as the poster child to both the "games are art" and "games cause violence in our kids" campaigns, it's insane antics both a positive and negitive impact on gaming)
All I know is that I probably will rent, if not buy, this game...hopefully they don't make drastic cuts and can grapple a M rating over a possible AO
Am I alone in this? Lol...because if this game IS as it sounds, then it's going to be the most loved game for sometime (and of course used as the poster child to both the "games are art" and "games cause violence in our kids" campaigns, it's insane antics both a positive and negitive impact on gaming)
All I know is that I probably will rent, if not buy, this game...hopefully they don't make drastic cuts and can grapple a M rating over a possible AO
I would LOVE to see this game come out as it is. I mean for cryin' out loud, IT'S DUKE NUKEM!!! You cannot have a game in this series without the crudeness, the strippers and all the over-masculine machoness. It wouldn't be the same without it. Sure it may seem outta touch for the type of scene the games industry has created now but I think we need this kind of thing to happen. The industry needs some shaking up and to be reminded that they don't always need to keep copying everyone else, go with what you think is right and deal with it as it comes.
As some have already said, most people here who know of this series are already in their 20's or over so its aimed at our generation! Here's hoping Duke comes back as he deserves to, crude and a bad-ass!
As some have already said, most people here who know of this series are already in their 20's or over so its aimed at our generation! Here's hoping Duke comes back as he deserves to, crude and a bad-ass!
It's supposed to be this way.
And for the trailer, I've seen it, and if ESRB and PEGI thinks it's to much they're a bunch of wusses.
And for the trailer, I've seen it, and if ESRB and PEGI thinks it's to much they're a bunch of wusses.
Oh, good. Now we can get to the fine art of censoring creative media, thus stripping it of its vitality and any discernible message (Or, in this case, specific lack thereof).
This is the kind of censorship I hate the most, the insidious, stealthy kind. Like what they did to Daria; they kept the general tone up, they just removed the occasional line of dialogue COMPLETELY ALTERING THE CHARACTER.
...Guess what I decided to re-watch?
EDIT: Hey, if they just ban it from Australia, does that mean we get to continue making Duke Nukem Forever jokes? I have, like, fifty that I have yet to slip into common conversation. You Americans won't mind, right?
This is the kind of censorship I hate the most, the insidious, stealthy kind. Like what they did to Daria; they kept the general tone up, they just removed the occasional line of dialogue COMPLETELY ALTERING THE CHARACTER.
...Guess what I decided to re-watch?
EDIT: Hey, if they just ban it from Australia, does that mean we get to continue making Duke Nukem Forever jokes? I have, like, fifty that I have yet to slip into common conversation. You Americans won't mind, right?
I can't read a sentence like this now and NOT hear Bang Shishigami.Logan Westbrook said:
That said, a pretty amusing article. Nice find really, loved the understatement.
I'd at least like to see an AO PC version! Looks like this will be worth the wait if the content isn't cut.
It'll be released because it's finally in the hands of a developer (Gearbox) that's actually CAPABLE of releasing a game.CheckD3 said:
But it's SUPPOSED to be that way. I forsee that there will be ridiculous amounts of controversy from Feminists, the Baptist Church, Non gamers, Your Mom, Other game companies, James Cameron, the Intergalactic space monsters league, Fanboys, Cthulhu, the Mafia, the Triad, Satan, zombies, Scientology, That "I have no lower jaw" guy from amnesia (except he can't voice his oppinion), The glue company, Skelleton Jelly ("DukeNukem Jelly. I'm DukeNukem jelly? No! I'm Skelleton Jelly!"), The CIA, terrorists, pirates, scissors, hippies, vegetarians, nukes, The media, tape, frankenstein's monster, Death, Mulder from the X files, Darth Vader, the Blue Meanie, Neo, Stan Lee, Al Gore, The Power Rangers, Captain Planet, lightbulbs, Vegeta, and apple trees.
But it's because they don't have...
BALLS OF STEEL.
(Except for Cthulhu, Death, and Skeleton Jelly)
I won't buy it first day it comes out, but maybe if it's cheap and gets good reviews.
But it's because they don't have...
BALLS OF STEEL.
(Except for Cthulhu, Death, and Skeleton Jelly)
I won't buy it first day it comes out, but maybe if it's cheap and gets good reviews.
And so the development hell begines once again.
I wouldn't put it past some executive to force a low ball on the rating so they can get more sales.
Goodbye blatant swearing and schoolgirls going down on Duke's kneecaps. Hello another delay.
Not that I even care. I never played any of the other games, and see the series thus far as a big joke anyway.
I wouldn't put it past some executive to force a low ball on the rating so they can get more sales.
Goodbye blatant swearing and schoolgirls going down on Duke's kneecaps. Hello another delay.
Not that I even care. I never played any of the other games, and see the series thus far as a big joke anyway.
DO NOT TONE IT DOWN. NO. BAD GEARBOX.
Tell the ESRB and PEGI to go to hell. If something like the SAW movies is allowed to just get an "R" rating, then the Duke shouldn't get more than an "M", even at his worst.
Tell the ESRB and PEGI to go to hell. If something like the SAW movies is allowed to just get an "R" rating, then the Duke shouldn't get more than an "M", even at his worst.
