Gene Simmons Declares War on Anonymous
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^ this.tzimize said:While I can understand your feelings it is also immensely entertaining and interesting to be able to observe a world (the Internet) that does not play by the regular rules. And in some cases, a world that still rebels. I for one hail anonymous, not because they are cyber-terrorists, or hackers, internet black-knights or whatever they might want to call themselves, but because they are the unknown face of a generation of youngsters, protesting in the way they know how.Legion said:
I wonder in time, if anonymous will be compared to say the hippie movement. Now dont jump at my throat, protesting war and murder is not exactly immediately comparable to the war on pirates...but there is a lot more stuff going on in this slice of the world than one should think. And I am glad that we are not without the anons
Judging by the results of anon's past exploits, I am excited for what will happen when Gene Simmons swings his 'all-powerful fist' into a hostile cloud of nothingness. He might not get it back.
I kinda envisioned a helium fuelled squeaky Napoleon in that sentence. I just find each groups "assaults" a bit of a joke really; it's just going back to our natural animal instinct of clubbing someone over the head because he's "not one of us" and while I'm sure it'll always be more complex than that, to what extent does it lead to? That's something I'm not sure a lot of people can answer, myself included.EHKOS said:
Good for Gene though. Internet hackers like this as a whole need to be grabbed out of their parents basements and be given a good spanking by reality and the law. He's well within his rights to bring down justice on these childish pricks for cyber crime as they have a hollow defiance that stinks of fear; hoping to inspire a level of terror and submittal in people can only last so long as there'll be others willing to say to them "Grow up and pay the price for breaking the law would you kindly?"
on one hand: the music industry is bloated. there is no reason a song should be $1.29 its a rip off. the cost of production is ridiculously low and the results are over priced. if gene simmons got his way a bunch of good people (and some bad people) would be out on the street. however, gene really cant do anything except throw his money at lawyers. he isnt smart enough to counter attack.
on the other hand: /b/ is full of perverts and internet terrorists. it is the sewer pipe of the internet. i think they should be taken down.
but: in the intrest of most people i really hope /b/ wins this. they are dangerous to corperations and people who make comments like that, but they arent going to make anyone homeless. they are the lesser of two evils.
edit: also, as a note, i used to pirate music. not anymore. i got a job at a music store and i get a ridiculous discount on everything.
on the other hand: /b/ is full of perverts and internet terrorists. it is the sewer pipe of the internet. i think they should be taken down.
but: in the intrest of most people i really hope /b/ wins this. they are dangerous to corperations and people who make comments like that, but they arent going to make anyone homeless. they are the lesser of two evils.
edit: also, as a note, i used to pirate music. not anymore. i got a job at a music store and i get a ridiculous discount on everything.
In all honesty I wasn't really a big fan of KISS and anyone who thinks they should be able to use their fame to be a loud-mouth rather than speak diplomatically almost seems as if they're hoping for someone to step on their toes. Not that I don't agree that downloading music illegally is bad and that artists should be paid for their work but endorsing making people homeless is a tad extreme but then again from what I've been told thats all he and his band has really known.
On the other hand Anon. has done some good for society but on the other end of the spectrum they've done some uncool stuff too. A celebrity's legal firm versus about of people with unknown amounts of resources and potential... Should be interesting to see how this goes down. Especially since a republican party website if I remember correctly waved the white flag to Anon. earlier this year.
On the other hand Anon. has done some good for society but on the other end of the spectrum they've done some uncool stuff too. A celebrity's legal firm versus about of people with unknown amounts of resources and potential... Should be interesting to see how this goes down. Especially since a republican party website if I remember correctly waved the white flag to Anon. earlier this year.
This is what I was thinking. Anonymous are a bunch of Internet terrorists I'd enjoy seeing torn apart, and Gene Simmons is taking things WAY too far with the anti-piracy.lacktheknack said:
I'd like some mutually assured destruction on this, but it probably won't happen...
im all for downloading music (who here has the cash to buy EVERY SINGLE SONG that they like? as for me, i dont have more than 3000 dollars on hand at all times)King Toasty said:
im against people abusing their power, whether it be copyright lawyers trying to sue 8 year olds or internet trolls trying to take down people's sites and mess up real-world polls so they can spell out names of people who really don't matter but are important on "teh internetz"
Do you mean Bleach or is this more plagiarism I haven't heard of? Because I remember seeing the side-by-sides of his art [http://community.livejournal.com/bleachness/446299.html] and Tite Kubo's and there's characters that are basically redrawn/retraced panels of Kenpachi and Orihime with... er... bleached hair. (And a bunch of other dubious stuff.)Mordwyl said:
But piracy hurts his bank balance and rape is something that happens to other people. So it's OK.Danzaivar said:
As am I. While I respect Anonymous's noble attempts, such as "Cheer Up Keanu" day, for the most part Anonymous is a terrible, terrible thing. I hope Mr. Simmons succeeds.Legion said:
Well, this should be interesting. While I believe Mister Simmons will manage to track down and sue a few of anonymous, there is no way he can find the entire horde before they wear down his patience for the little feud. As long as the supply of willing participants in this daring little foray remain as bottomless as they've ever been, anon will prevail.
As they have before and will again.
All I see here is a misunderstanding for anonymous, as it is meant to be a cross-section of society on the internet. Of course those stereotypes you speak of exist in anonymous but so does the businessman, the artist, the lawyer.
M00t, I'd imagine, is quite safe from this proposed mass litigation, as he's not an idiot. Of course, even were he to be brought in, it would only serve to further motivate the 4chan branch of anonymous. Needless to say, I'm going to enjoy how this plays out.
/popcorn
As they have before and will again.
All I see here is a misunderstanding for anonymous, as it is meant to be a cross-section of society on the internet. Of course those stereotypes you speak of exist in anonymous but so does the businessman, the artist, the lawyer.
M00t, I'd imagine, is quite safe from this proposed mass litigation, as he's not an idiot. Of course, even were he to be brought in, it would only serve to further motivate the 4chan branch of anonymous. Needless to say, I'm going to enjoy how this plays out.
/popcorn
this is basically what "i" was trying to say before people assumed i was a fox news junkie who got a hard-on whenever someone says "Obama is a socialist"The Austin said:
this is why internet trolls should really suffer... it's not that i want to see piracy be taken away (i rather like not having to make life decisions when i want to listen to the latest Megadeth album) i want them to stop abusing their power and taking down anyone who slightly angers them... because that makes them dangerous in more ways than one
Okay, so Gene wants to sue house and home over a $1.29 song, that's warranting a judicial review since that goes well beyond the allowed amount granted by the court (there is a limit to how much one can sue for over what would equate to a misdemeanor.) Now the people who download thousands of full CDs, movies, and other digital mediums should be held accountable but less than an album of music does not a major felony make.
As for his war against anon, supposedly getting a few hackers (or internet terrorists) is more than most but he has to find the big ones with the FBI's help, they're the only people anon will probably not try to mess with. If anon tries the FBI they'll find out what a multi-million dollar a year cyber defense and crime lab can do, which boils down to bending anon over with a cactus. Should he not get the help of a major cyber organization he will fail miserably though I do like his promise to publicly reveal the identity of caught anon members, certain poetry to that.
Either case I'll enjoy the show
As for his war against anon, supposedly getting a few hackers (or internet terrorists) is more than most but he has to find the big ones with the FBI's help, they're the only people anon will probably not try to mess with. If anon tries the FBI they'll find out what a multi-million dollar a year cyber defense and crime lab can do, which boils down to bending anon over with a cactus. Should he not get the help of a major cyber organization he will fail miserably though I do like his promise to publicly reveal the identity of caught anon members, certain poetry to that.
Either case I'll enjoy the show
I really have no sympathy for Simmons, and I really don't want to back him. Why does he back those outrageous penalties and fines for downloading a song that costs less than a dollar?
"Take their hones, their cars, don't let anybody cross that line."
Really? Take their fucking homes? Is that the kind of justice he wants?
"Take their hones, their cars, don't let anybody cross that line."
Really? Take their fucking homes? Is that the kind of justice he wants?
Agreed. Anon has hacked peoples' bank accounts because they think it's funny.Azaraxzealot said:
Anon must die.
He's after Lars Ulrich's crown and King Prick. Seriously, you did perfectly fine before with music piracy, where people taped songs off the radio and copied albums for their friends, you'll be fine now. All bands know it's live shows that get the money in.Worgen said:
Heh, there is irony in putting a face to anon members, but I'd say they stop being a part of anonymous when they are no longer anonymous.BabySinclair said:
Like taking a cup of water from a river. As soon as it is out of the river, it is not a part of it.
As for what the FBI can do, I don't think they can do shit all.
Their efforts in the past certainly haven't done much.
I do love how people are shoving this to extremes. Everyone says he's going to go after people who download one or two songs. MAYBE that is the case, but don't you think he'll go after distributors, MASS pirates, and the other people doing this on a mass scale before he goes after people that pirate one or two songs?Torrasque said:
Well, Gene's got one hell of a fight ahead of him. People have tried to combat Anonymous, and it's simply too big and... random... to be fought using orthodox methods.