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that just makes it sounds like he broke his back trying to use a sex harness.DoctorFrankenStein said:
OT: the ability to outargue me over trivial issues. my argumentative skills are one reason im learning law. another is money. the third is power.
Obviously they won and it's theirs. I was only saying that out of jest and bitterness. Detroit was a better team overall and were the favorites, it's like when Patriots fan's talk about 2007, Minnesota Vikings fan's during 2009, Ohio State fans about the Title Game for '06, or Michigan hockey during the 1997 and 2008 seasons/North Dakota this past year, or when Boston fan's talk about the "Too Many Men on the Ice Game" or Vancouver fans this year, or the Bartman Incident with Cub's fan's, or the 1986 World Series for Red Sox fans, or 2007 for the Cavaliers, and 2005 for the Pistons. It's always known as "That One Game" for the respective sports fan's and 2009 is Detroit's. Obviously I know Pittsburgh won itemeraldrafael said:
I was just using that a offhanded number, the fact that for most people (and apparently the Hart Memorial Trophy too) that more goals=better player, and that a lot of people are using that as the benchmark for "Great Players"
I never said anything about Gretzky being selfish, you're jumping to conclusions....
If that's how you want to talk about the Penguins team after Crosby, Malkin, and Fleury then go right ahead[footnote]except you forgot "Dirty" when talking about Cooke[/footnote].....anyway though
You missed my point entirely. Because the Red Wings have more talent on their team the points are all spread out more than focusing on 1-2 players. Jumping to you're next point...
You're right, it isn't Sid's fault that's he's (like you just pointed out above) virtually the only player on the Ice for the Pens. But because the Red Wings have more quality players[footnote]which is an Organizational Thing, not much the skaters can do about that[/footnote] it reduces the strain/need on all of the players to put up 100-point seasons in order to stay relevant for the playoff hunt.
Here's some stats too, like you I threw out injury seasons choosing only to count seasons where both players played at least 70 games. That leaves us with 2005-2006, 2006-2007, 2008-2009, and 2009-2010.
Here's the breakdown for their stats:
'05/06
Crosby:
GP: 82
G: 39
A: 63
P: 102
Datsyuk:
GP: 75
G: 28
A: 59
P: 87
Pretty impressive, Crosby's rookie season was a really historic one. At first glance he appears to have the edge here; when you average it out gamewise Crosby scores 35.67 goals, has 56.62 assists, and has a grand total of 93.29 points, or reverse it's 30.61 goals, has 64.50 assists, and 95.12 points for Datsyuk.
However when you factor in everyone else on the team a different story comes to light. In '05/06 the next 14 points leaders for the Pens were 58, 51, 44, 42, 40, 38, 32, 27, 25, 22, 16, 15, 13, and 10. That's quite a drop-off from first to second though. For the Red Wings it goes: 85, 81, 80, 62, 59, 59, 58, 45, 34, 32, 19, 16, 15, and 15. So when we look at this we see that the Red Wings scoring is pretty evened out, the drop-off from first to second is only 2 compared to the 44 point difference the Penguins experienced. In fact only 5 other teams experienced a drop-off like that (more than 20 points): Carolina at 24 points, San Jose at 32, Florida at 33, New York Rangers at 44 tying the Pens, and Washington at 49. All were teams that were[footnote]and in some cases still are[sub][sub]Washington....[/sub][/sub][/footnote] known for only having 1 good player on their team
In fact when you look at the rest of the years[footnote]'06/07
Pens- 120, 85, 68, 67, 59, 48, 42, 42, 34, 33, 31, 24, 24, 16, 15
Wings- 87, 68, 62, 52, 52, 52, 40, 35, 34, 30, 29, 25, 22, 18, 17
'08/09
Pens- 113, 103, 53, 49, 48, 46, 39, 36, 35, 33, 31, 28, 22, 20, 19
Wings- 97, 073, 71, 59, 59, 59, 57, 51, 40, 40, 40, 37, 19, 17, 16
'09/10
Pens- 109, 77, 50, 50, 49, 45, 38, 37, 32, 30, 30, 27, 26, 25, 25
Wings- 70, 70, 49, 45, 44, 42, 35, 34, 24, 22, 22, 22, 21, 20, 19[/footnote] the same story happens, Crosby is 1 or 2, just like Datsyuk. But the rest of the team has such a drop-off from the top point scorer's as compared to the Wings. So either Crosby is a puck-hog, which isn't likely; or (and far more likely) he's being forced to cover up for his team's deficiencies. Just because a player has better stats doesn't mean he's automatically a lock, by that logic then Timmy Chang is the best QB is NCAA history because he has the most passing yards with 17,072. Or in 2003 BJ Symons was the best QB because he threw for the most yards. Stat's aren't always the end all be all. The +/- rating comes to mind for Hockey, as well as totals wins for a pitcher in Baseball. I mean King Felix had 13 wins and 12 losses in 2010 while other lesser pitchers had near 20 with fewer than 10 losses, or were more than 1 game over 500, but Felix was hands down the best pitcher in Major League Baseball last year.
You're right, Crosby probably will end up with more points than Datsyuk. But, 1: you can't forget about the lockout that Crosby was able to avoid. Using average's over his career that put's Datsyuk's regular season total at:
Games: 736
Goals: 246
Assists: 480
Points: 723
and his playoff total's at:
Games: 134
Goals: 36
Assists: 66
Points: 101
Now obviously those aren't exact, or accurate at all. For all we know in 2004-2005 he could have had a 60/100 season, or he could have had 5/20, so I'm just using average's to account for the lost season.
And 2: You're right, it isn't Sid's fault that he is the Franchise Player, and as you said he's virtually the only player on some nights. If the Red Wings only had Datsyuk as their star then you bet he would be putting up points and goals like no other, but [footnote]For better or for worse for Datsyuk himself[/footnote] Datsyuk has played on some extremely talented teams, the 2002 team for instance had 10 future HoF on it, won the President's Trophy, as well as having Scotty Bowman as Head Coach (talk about a tough year to break in as a Rookie), so Pavel has never been forced to cover up for his Team Lack of Quality Players, and when he has had to due to Injury and whatnot[footnote]the playoff series against Phoenix comes to mind when Z was out[/footnote] he's more than made up for it.
If it was Evanna Lynch (actress who played Luna Lovegood in the Harry Potter series)
And she asked weirdly in role.
Pow.
Done deal.
And she asked weirdly in role.
Pow.
Done deal.
If she was open minded about casual gender specific clothing, roles and fancies wearing clothing that wouldn't normally come up in a casual situation...woman in a Waistcoat, shirt and trousers, do want! (or even a Qipao!!)
Lets just say her roles are dominant and open.... :O
Lets just say her roles are dominant and open.... :O