George Lucas Says Greedo Always Shot First

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

Predictably long thread is predictably long.

But yeah, hanging around Luke made Han less of a mercenary and more of a hero. He shot first. Too bad Lucas, the fandom's canon is the real canon in the eyes of the fandom. Just like how the prequels never happened.

 

[Jezzy54]

How the hell is it cold-blooded to shoot someone who comes up to you with a gun and talks about killing you?

 

[SnakeoilSage]

It's like he's just trying to provoke us now. lol

 

[TheRealCJ]

Here's an idea Georgie. Want to prove us completely wrong? Stop all the speculation? The Answer is simple!

RELEASE THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY, UNDOCTORED AND UNMOLESTED, ON DVD/BLU-RAY.

 

[Blind0bserver]

What are you talking about? Greedo always shot first. Han acted purely in self-defense. We have always been at war with Europa. Move along, citizen.

 

[FoolKiller]

It's funny, I have the novelization of the movies. In that scene, no camera angles or special effects to worry about, somehow Greedo's shot was completely missed by the words, while the Cantina had a good laugh at the idiot that let his mark get his hands under the table.

Oh yes, the works of other authors holds no weight with Lucas, but I think even he would have to make an exception here. He wrote that book himself. So either he had a ghost writer (presumably fired before...um...well before I was born I guess) or he has some kind of long term memory issues.

Quite possibly both.

I'd bet on both.

Shhhh.... don't tell him that. He'll go and edit the books too!

 

[Promethax]

Well, it looks like old George is barely grasping the frayed ends of sanity now...

 

[an874]

I think Doug Walker said it best in this clip from his Batman and Robin review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSUiE6YGxLM

 

[kotorfan04]

I feel like at some point in the 90s Lucas had a vision that he would be killed by a Star Wars fanboy and so he set to work just ruining the series by making the new trilogy and more importantly, trying to retroactively ruin the classic series. Either that or he suffers from a compulsion that never lets him think anything is good enough and he constantly needs to work on it.

And I know it has been said before, but it does bear repeating: We are at war with Eastasia, we have always been at war with Eastasia.

 

[Lionsfan]

We all know that Han only shot first because Greedo was gonna do it anyway. That's what a guy from a Western (like every character Clint Eastwood ever played) does. It's a bit cold, but ya can't blame the guy for wanting to stay alive. Lucas, continuing to plug his finger in his ears and go "lalalalalalalala!"

Exactly, it's a do or die scene. If Greedo shot first Han would be dead.

It's similar to this scene, and I'd almost bet Lucas got inspired by it or another movie with a similar setup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUslGSoEH8I

That wouldn't be surprising, considering all of the different stuff in Star Wars that it pays homage to, it wouldn't be surprising if ole Jorge or someone on the team thought it would be cool to show Han as a badass in a relatively simple way

 

[Reincarnatedwolfgod]

out of cursorily i looked the original and edited versions on youtube
so either
sitution 1: han shot first
sitution 2: greedo missed at point blank range from across a table; then han shoots.

either way han does not die and the story goes on so who the hell cares about the small details

if the second is true then greedo must be the worst bounty hunter in star wars and died due his own incompetence

it is George Lucas's creation so if he says greedo(aka the worst bounty hunter in star wars) missed a point blank range shot from across a table; well i am perfectly fine with that

 

[Yureina]

I'm starting to think that George Lucas says stuff like this just to be a troll. It wouldn't surprise me.

 

[BloodRed Pixel]

Goerge Lucas, you are an idiot!

 

[dobahci]

When you get to the point where your fans know the franchise better than the original writer of it, that's a sign that he should probably stop fucking with it.

The whole reason why Han Solo shooting first was important to his character is because he was supposed to be the character with street smarts, the one who has survived up to this point by knowing how to wiggle and talk his way out of tough situations, and shoot first when that isn't possible. If you make it that Greedo shot first, Han just becomes some random pilot who happened to survive by pure luck.

You take the entire aspect that defines his character (cleverness and survival instinct) and throw it to pure chance. This is not good writing. I feel like someone should explain this to George. Or rather, that he should already understand it, given his USC film school education and all the years he's spent making movies.

 

[Hosker]

Word of God, I'm afraid. If George says it is so, it is so.

 

[Nigh Invulnerable]

My only thought besides "Move on, people!" is that if Greedo did indeed shoot first, he's the worst bounty hunter/mob lackey ever.

 

[CrazyGirl17]

Uh-huh, sure George, whatever you say... though I'm not a proponent of the "Han shot first", deal, I could really care less. I'm suprised people take it so seriously... but then again, this is Star Wars we're talking about here...

 

[taciturnCandid]

Maybe its possible that Lucas was referring to some rule 34 fanfic. Where Greedo "shoots first".


Or maybe he is just a really bad liar