George Lucas Says Greedo Always Shot First

[Scrimshaw13]

Its an interesting claim to make, as the original is so close in that you wouldn't be able to see a thing. I would have preferred there to be a smoking hole in the wall behind Solo or something that showed that a high velocity burst of energy just flew into it or something, but honestly, I'm tired of this debate. Can't we all just agree to watch the versions we prefer and leave everyone else alone? Buy the originals on their skinny case boxed DVD release, it comes with the messed around with version, and the laser disc. Play both. Or just one, or none. Its that simple.

 

[ScorpSt]

Wow George, at least try to lie better. If you said that it was a production error and they forgot to put in the shot and the sound, I might believe you. I'm not a huge Star Wars fan like others out there, but even I've watched enough Star Wars to know that Han Shot first. Next you're going to tell us that Vader was always screaming no in Return of the Jedi, we just couldn't hear it clearly.

 

[MASTACHIEFPWN]

Why not make Greedo a terrible casual shot, therefore you don't have to add that rediculous neck move animation, make it hit someone on the other side of the planet for shit's sake!

And we all know that Indian Jones shot his death box first.

 

[Sentox6]

Same character, not self defense. The only difference is now Greedo is halfway competent at his job. I like a character with competent villains.

Situation 1: Greedo lets his mark get a hand under the table, and gets shot.

Situation 2: Greedo lets his mark get a hand under the table, then misses him at point blank with a chest-height blaster shot, and gets shot.

Somehow, in your mind, situation 2 makes Greedo look more competent? Ooook.

 

[Mahoshonen]

Word of God, I'm afraid. If George says it is so, it is so.

Oh, really? GOOD!

American works of art belong to the American public; they are part of our cultural history.
People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians, and if the laws of the United States continue to condone this behavior, history will surely classify us as a barbaric society. The preservation of our cultural heritage may not seem to be as politically sensitive an issue as "when life begins" or "when it should be appropriately terminated," but it is important because it goes to the heart of what sets mankind apart. Creative expression is at the core of our humanness. Art is a distinctly human endeavor. We must have respect for it if we are to have any respect for the human race.

He himself said this. Before Congress. Fighting against altering old, classic movies.

Just, you know, thought it was relevant.

This should be quoted at the top of every page. By his own definition, George Lucas is a callous barbarian with no regard for art.

 

[Xpheyel]

Why not make Greedo a terrible casual shot, therefore you don't have to add that rediculous neck move animation, make it hit someone on the other side of the planet for shit's sake!

And we all know that Indian Jones shot his death box first.

I'm sure that we're only a few versions away from Greedo being tragically mentally deficient to the point of holding the gun backwards and shooting himself, over Han Solo's urgent and sincere warnings. ILM will no doubt be happy to animate the tears running down Solo's face as he pleads with Greedo to put the gun down before he hurts himself. For it is revealed in a hitherto unknown scene that Greedo is only so inept due to consuming a bad batch of spice Solo himself smuggled to Tatooine. A recorded alternate version of the the confrontation between Solo and Jabba outside the Millennium Falcon will be used, where he denounces blaster violence and spice abuse.

 

[Mr.Squishy]

Mwahaha, this evening I feast on fanboy tears.

 

[Frizzle]

Yeah... I don't think so Lucas.

Though it actually kind of looks like Solo just exploded on Greedo. Heh.

Sorry man, but if you pause it at the right time, you can see the "impact" on the wall by Solo's head before he shoots the alien. This is a totally objective view btw, as i didn't even know what you all were on about till people started posting clips.

Correction Edit: I didn't see there was original and special edition. In the original there was only one shot, and it was Solo. In the special edition, there are 2 shots (2 sound bytes) and the alien shoots first. My apologies good sir.

So alien shot first, then Solo wasted him. :/

 

[dubious_wolf]

I have the original VHS's. George Lucas is so full of SH**!!!

 

[malestrithe]

For the love of Saint Peter.

This again fanboys? How come everytime you hear about Lucas saying something about your favorite childhood memories, you go on a rampage in the only way you know how to: by flooding any Internet website that you have not been kicked off of with same asinine kvetching you've been doing since 1996. I would think that a lot of you would have grown up by now and realize that your child memories have not been tainted because Lucas changed a few things.

He's allowed to do that because it's his intellectual property.

Star Wars Fanboys: Get over it. Your childhood is not coming back.

 

[Vault101]

For the love of Saint Peter.

This again fanboys? How come everytime you hear about Lucas saying something about your favorite childhood memories, you go on a rampage in the only way you know how to: by flooding any Internet website that you have not been kicked off of with same asinine kvetching you've been doing since 1996. I would think that a lot of you would have grown up by now and realize that your child memories have not been tainted because Lucas changed a few things.

He's allowed to do that because it's his intellectual property.

Star Wars Fanboys: Get over it. Your childhood is not coming back.

I have no childhood connection to starwars what so ever

and I still think its bull

people have thier opinions (for different reasons) and they will voice them

 

[lapan]

I don't understand why people give so much of a fuck about who shot first. It's like it's the sole scene in all the movies that defines Han and taking it out would reduce him from a badass to a pansy.

 

[MrNickster]

If he makes a change that is almost universally despised then claims he changed nothing, it's not going to quell the fanboy rage, it'll make them hate him even more for blasphemy.

His best choice at the moment would be to cease talking about or altering anything in Star Wars.

 

[targren]

...snip blatant fellatio...

Did you happen to work for Lucas during the filming of said prequels? Sounds like it.

 

[targren]

I just have common sense, and realize that complaining about changes made to a movie I don't even like is pointless. It's even more pointless for 30 something Star Wars fans to complain about such a small change to a movie that doesn't alter the story in any way.

Ah, so you're a youngling then. You're also wrong on several counts.

You're confusing plot ("Ragtag rebellion against the evil empire") with story. You're correct when you say it doesn't alter the plot. However, when you whitewash a main characters personality, thereby changing his entire motivation, you alter his character development. In this case, Han goes from being a self-centered and savvy survivor to being a pretty poor excuse for a rogue since, if he ACTUALLY let Greedo shoot first, he'd likely be dead. That eventuality was counteracted in the worst possible way: by making Greedo so amazingly incompetent as a Bounty Hunter/Enforcer that he can't hit a stationary target less than one meter in front of him, removing any tension whatsoever from the scene as Greedo goes from being a credible threat to an overgrown green Smurf. It also devalues the character's turn-around later, in this case, when he comes back to save Luke at the last second.

You also missed the part where Lucas threw out the first pitch in this latest revival of the argument[footnote]Which has been debunked rather soundly already in this thread so I won't reiterate it point for point. I'll summarize it by saying that even the existing material itself calls "bullshit" on Lucas' claim.[/footnote], making it an insulting of our intelligence.

As you're not a fan, this may well not affect you as you say, but then your much vaunted "Common Sense" should have had you staying out of it if you don't have a horse in the race. Instead, you came in anyway, proved you had little idea what you're talking about, and added nothing to the discussion.

I liked solo because of this one scene at bespin where he goes in running and gunning and a second later comes back with an imperial fuckton of stormies in tow.

Minor nitpick: That actually happened on the Death Star in the first movie, and was, indeed, a great scene.